I answered the question in Post #418 of "Did He take the punishment for all humanity?" as a Yes in Posts 417 and 421. And I asserted that position multiple times in other posts on this thread.So…is that a yes?
Okay. So if hell isn’t punishment for sin, what is it for?I answered the question in Post #418 of "Did He take the punishment for all humanity?" as a Yes in Posts 417 and 421. And I asserted that position multiple times in other posts on this thread.
Show me where I said hell isn't a punishment for sin.Okay. So if hell isn’t punishment for sin, what is it for?
Is that what this has turned into…personal attacks?
Where did it say “sealed” in Hebrews 6?
Show me where I said hell isn't a punishment for sin.
Did He take the punishment for sin for all humanity?
I answered the question in Post #418 of "Did He take the punishment for all humanity?" as a Yes in Posts 417 and 421. And I asserted that position multiple times in other posts on this thread.
I don’t understand your point.So you are going to preach “evanescent Holy Spirit”. I was being sarcastic when I called that. I never actually expected you would really resort to it.
Wrong. I already shared that Hebrews 4:1-3 states that the promises of God are received through faith.If Christ bore the sin for all humanity, then hell can’t be a punishment for sin.
You said that Christ bore the punishment for sin. I assume that rejecting Christ is a sin He took the punishment for.Wrong. I already shared with Hebrews 4:1-3 that states that the promises of God are received through faith.
Although it is not God's will that any should perish. Many do and its not because the "all" here only includes a subset of humanity. It is because some do not appropriate Christ's Propitiation through faith. James here states that receiving from God involves the exercise of faith.
James 1:6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. 7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
Again receiving anything from God requires faith. Show me from the NT where it says anything otherwise. If you reject Christ, you cannot exercise faith to receive Christ's propitiation.You said that Christ bore the punishment for sin. I assume that rejecting Christ is a sin He took the punishment for.
Is rejecting Christ a sin?Again receiving anything from God requires faith. Show me from the NT where it says anything otherwise. If you reject Christ, you cannot exercise faith to receive Christ's propitiation.
Is rejecting Christ a sin?
Let’s go with that. Let’s say that you owe a huge fine, and someone pays that fine for you. Would the judge be just if he threw you in jail for non-payment?I think you see the atonement as court case, when someone steps in and pays your fine you have no saying in it, you are free to go. That is not the way atonement works or faith wouldn't be necessary at all.
Let’s go with that. Let’s say that you owe a huge fine, and someone pays that fine for you. Would the judge be just if he threw you in jail for non-payment?
Okay, why would God not be unjust for punishing someone for sins that His Son paid the penalty for?No, but again that is not how atonement works.
Okay, why would God not be unjust for punishing someone for sins that His Son paid the penalty for?
Did I say it was not a sin? Avoid asking "Is the sky blue on a clear day?" questions.Is rejecting Christ a sin?
Fair enough.I'm gonna let that question sit for a while, before answering.
Yeah, you seem to be a bit too emotional for me to continue. I’d love to continue, but not with all of the vitriol.Did I say it was not a sin? Avoid asking "Is the sky blue on a clear day?" questions.
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