Calling yourself a Prophet?

[Daniel Stinson]

The Spirit of Prophecy is a Gift from God. So is it right to call yourself a prophet? Or should you call God the Prophet. I mean that I have no inborn ability to see the future. No time machine to do it for me. Then can I call myself prophet or is it false advertising?

Depending upon the Scripture referenced, in some instances, prophesying is merely witnessing what's already been written. It's one of those areas where the modern English wording isn't consistently applied in context.

I do believe what's necessary for salvation has already been revealed in Scripture. I do believe the Holy Spirit allows us at times to experience the future, when and where it benefits God, but not to such an extent that chapters or books are being added to the Bible.

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[JeremyTheAnglercan]

I think anyone who gives themselves the title of Prophet is a pretentious idiot. We should be humbling ourselves as Christians.

 

[BeStill&Know]

Thank you, I can't deny the scripture. I was a little confused perhaps. That really clarifies things. So then is Jesus the Prophet?

Jesus has ALL the Gifts, shown by the Gospels

 

[CodyFaith]

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[Brendan13]

Doesn't matter what you believe. It matters what the Word of God says.

Well isn't the Word of God Supposed to reflect into the world..like a mirror?

 

[Brendan13]

Well isn't the Word of God Supposed to reflect into the world..like a mirror?

So I would suppose that a Prophet would have a gift for Prophecy...Does that include fortune telling?

 

[Brendan13]

Pure bitter written word..in a format that I can understand(Binah)..Laced with the coming Mellifluous harmony..of the mingling of the moment..which is the take on the concept of Be Here Now..By Ram Das...or even The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle..Rings true isnt it?

If the prophecy sounds true..then it must be, due to the nature of time..which is a reverberation of matter..or otherwise a single note in a single second sequence....which can be displayed as a nuance of centripetal force...so the full version of prophecy is that I am a Scapegoat at this moment...indeed as a Randy Prophecy..It would be interesting..to see if a Prophet could prove Mind over Matter..or Even a mind that would be made fluid with miracles?

Can I even ask this question? What is it about a Prophet that you want to hear and listen? Can it be tangible..or do we have to talk in abstract revelations..? Well the Guest bespeckled is a muse.. and to quote a verse from the Bible...I will say this at least:

Deuteronomy 12:22

Even as the Roebuck and the Hart is eaten, so thou shalt eat them: the unclean and the clean shall eat of them alike..

^This is pointing to the idea..that we can eat meat...and literally murder animals..to take and have as a sacrifice..and made for Food at home..because Humans are Omnivores...in and of itself..is a prophecy..that we would continue to eat meat...and make animals our pets and friends..but in the general concern..is for Man to Rule over the Animals?

Well that question I leave up to God!

 

[Episaw]

The Spirit of Prophecy is a Gift from God. So is it right to call yourself a prophet? Or should you call God the Prophet. I mean that I have no inborn ability to see the future. No time machine to do it for me. Then can I call myself prophet or is it false advertising?

No one should call themselves anything. Not apostle, prophet, evangelist, shepherd or teacher. What Christ gave to the church was ministries, not positions. Therefore we have prophetic gift, not the position of a prophet. In that respect I am a person with a prophetic gift.

I have the gift of discernment but that does not mean I am referred to as Discerner John. I am simply John who exercises the gift of discernment. The gift is given to benefit the church, not the person exercising it.

Paul was never addressed as Apostle Paul. He was referred to as Paul an apostle. So no title or position, just a ministry. The same with Barnabas who had a prophetic gift.

I would go so far as to say that those who insist on titles do not have the gift especially as the scripture is very clear that all ministries are servant ministries, not leadership ministries. From what I have seen in the church, especially smaller ones the so called Pastor is a jack of all trades or in larger ones, the CEO of an organisation that calls itself church.

The only people that had leadership ministry in the New Testament Church were the Elders, whose role was to oversee, teach, correct and shepherd. Having a shepherding gift (pastor in Latin) did not make you an Elder or a leader. To be an Elder you had to be at least 40 years old and married. That is not a requirement for a stand alone shepherd.

 

[paul becke]

The Spirit of Prophecy is a Gift from God. So is it right to call yourself a prophet? Or should you call God the Prophet. I mean that I have no inborn ability to see the future. No time machine to do it for me. Then can I call myself prophet or is it false advertising?

The point is, like the term, 'mystic' and doubtless many others, 'prophet' is a term of convenience. No one is either in their own right. And God can withdraw such function whenever he chooses to. Indeed, on the same basis, it can be said that no one is or was or will be, a saint in their own right. We are 'other Christs' by adoption via baptism. The very breath we draw is a gift from God, isn't it?

 

[bobharms]

The Spirit of Prophecy is a Gift from God. So is it right to call yourself a prophet? Or should you call God the Prophet. I mean that I have no inborn ability to see the future. No time machine to do it for me. Then can I call myself prophet or is it false advertising?

It is a gift, if I give you a watch is it yours or mine

No. The gift of predictive prophecy has ended.

Funny that people who say they're prophets never say they'll accept the Biblical penalty if they prophesy falsely.

 

[bobharms]

There is a gift of prophecy - that all can have. (see 1 Cor 12) and there is also an office of the Prophet - one of the 5 main ministries of Eph 4. They are not the same thing at all.

It is a gift, if I give you a watch is it yours or mine

1corinthians 12is not a list of nine gifts they are manifestations of the Spirit that occurs as He desires and should be allowed to operate in our assemblies, sadly the grieving if the Holy Spirit occurs more than the manifestations and for that there is judgment... for those who arrogantly oppose the Holy Spirit will be sadly surprised

 

[bobharms]

That isn't how it works, or what it's about. Christianity is the prophetic faith, so a prophet should be following the gospel, which says both "it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you" and "sit down in the lowest place."



It would be very unfortunate if we are no longer saved by being united to the Word. Thankfully I have reason to believe otherwise.



That only works in the context of a society which enforces those standards and penalties. But, outside of that context, freedom of speech can and does "humble" presumptuous preachers, and, in my opinion, it works in accord with the "spirit" of the law.

Agree prophet will operate in the measure of faith given them

 

[bobharms]

I think anyone who gives themselves the title of Prophet is a pretentious idiot. We should be humbling ourselves as Christians.

You mean a prophet like Jonah,Throw mein the water" how bout this question, what is your gift from God to me? Pride blinds eye s and reveals the heart of an accuser...if you are a child of God you are a gift to me from God if you are a prophet you are s gift to the Body of Christ, many are called few are chosen, if you are chosen do you believe you would know it?What would it look like with the body of Christ coming together to operate as gifts to one another? Thanks

 

[Episaw]

1corinthians 12is not a list of nine gifts they are manifestations of the Spirit that occurs as He desires and should be allowed to operate in our assemblies, sadly the grieving if the Holy Spirit occurs more than the manifestations and for that there is judgment... for those who arrogantly oppose the Holy Spirit will be sadly surprised

I Corinthians 12 is quite different to the supernatural gifting given by Christ in Ephesians 4:11.

 

[Episaw]

So I would suppose that a Prophet would have a gift for Prophecy...Does that include fortune telling?

No it doesn't as the source of prophecy is the Holy spirit and the source of fortune telling is satan.

 

[Episaw]

No. The gift of predictive prophecy has ended.

Funny that people who say they're prophets never say they'll accept the Biblical penalty if they prophesy falsely.

The purpose of being a prophet is to be predictive. If it doesn't happen today it is mainly because the church is not interested in what The Holy Spirit has to say.

Being a prophet is different to prophesying. You don't have to be a prophet to prophesy. This type of prophecy is to build up the body of Christ and encourage.

One example of your comment I was a founding member of a church starting up in town. The pastor who was sent by the denomination from outside to run it prophesied about six months in that God had told him he was going to increase the congregation by 10% each year.

That would mean by now the congregation would be about 46,000. It is still around 50. Not only is he still running it he has been given oversight of another congregation, that by the way is losing numbers.

 

[bobharms]

I Corinthians 12 is quite different to the supernatural gifting given by Christ in Ephesians 4:11.

Agreed the two lists differ one is a gift(Ephesians,) the other the manifestations. As believers in the Body of Christ we should Honor the gift ministries as from God and the manifestations of 1Corinthians from the Spirit...

 

[bobharms]

Agree prophet will operate in the measure of faith given them

 

[bobharms]

Agree

 

[bobharms]

There is nothing we do that is not of faith, speaking in an eternal perspective as everything not of faith will be burned and not remembered in eternity with God. Living in a realm outside the glory of God requires total faith. Look at the gospel record and Jesus always sees what those who He interacts with do not. The reality that is passing away creates the illusion that we actually are like God. He is not like man, Jesus was born to reveal who God is...most people would state there who God was...Jesus is alive He is not a historical figure He is right now I have His Spirit in me living and moving in me, because He is I Am...