Calendar of Hillel

[gadar perets]

No, you didn't miss it you simply misunderstood that passage: notice how there is a colon after season and it states the sun setting: this is to say that when the moon rises from the east the sun sets in the west...nothing more nothing less.

Psalm 104:19 He appointed the moon for seasons: the sun knoweth his going down.
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You want the verse to read, "He appointed the moon to have an appointment." The "for" in the text means the moon has an affect on "moedim" (the feasts) and was given the responsibility of causing them to fall where YHWH wants them to.

 

[Steve Petersen]

A solar year is NOT 364 days. If you go by that, sooner or later the spring festivals will be falling in the winter.

solar year

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

Psalm 104:19 He appointed the moon for seasons: the sun knoweth his going down.
​

You want the verse to read, "He appointed the moon to have an appointment." The "for" in the text means the moon has an affect on "moedim" (the feasts) and was given the responsibility of causing them to fall where YHWH wants them to.

MoED comes from the verb YAaD meaning to meet or apoint: therefore MoED would mean appointed time, meeting, or season as the translators placed it. This passage is only telling us that when the moon rises in the east the sun sets in the west regardless of whether there is feast day or not and, regardless of what phase the moon is in. Remember colon marks tell us that the writer wishes to direct our attention to a particular matter or, that the matter stated will be explained: therefore God appointed the moon for times [of rising]:
the sun knows when to set (emphasis added mine).

 

[gadar perets]

A solar year is NOT 364 days. If you go by that, sooner or later the spring festivals will be falling in the winter.

solar year

I totally agree. So either a 364 day calendar has to be intercalated or 364 day calendar proponents need to prove a solar year is not 365.25 days long.

 

[gadar perets]

MoED comes from the verb YAaD meaning to meet or apoint: therefore MoED would mean appointed time, meeting, or season as the translators placed it. This passage is only telling us that when the moon rises in the east the sun sets in the west regardless of whether there is feast day or not and, regardless of what phase the moon is in.

Lev 23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts (moadi) of YHWH, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts (moadi).

Lev 23:4 These are the feasts (moadi) of YHWH, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.​

Remember colon marks tell us that the writer wishes to direct our attention to a particular matter or, that the matter stated will be explained: therefore God appointed the moon for times [of rising]:
the sun knows when to set (emphasis added mine).

There is no colon in the Hebrew text. Therefore, the translator wishes ...

 

[Steve Petersen]

I totally agree. So either a 364 day calendar has to be intercalated or 364 day calendar proponents need to prove a solar year is not 365.25 days long.

365.25 is not precise. Julius Caesar introduced the calendar with 365 days and leap year that added an extra day every fourth year. Problem was, the year was not precisely 365.25 days so that by the 18th century it had already drifted by about 10.5 days. Pope Gregory introduced a calendar reform that we use today, where in addition to leap years, a day is also added every century that is divisible by 400. (IIRC.)

Calendar reform - Wikipedia

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

A solar year is NOT 364 days. If you go by that, sooner or later the spring festivals will be falling in the winter.

solar year

That is assuming that our Gregrian calendar perfectly matches up with the the heavenly bodies movements: a calendar which must be adjusted every X amount of years is not a perfect reflection of the heavenly bodies movements. The problem man has is that when they look at YHWH's perfect calendar which needs no adjusting like our man made calendars: is that we believe He must be wrong about something instead of us admitting that we are wrong. As the luni-solar calendar and all other lunar variants find there man made origins in Babylon: so too do all man made solar calendars find their origin in Egypt. You and others of like mind would be stupid to think that God would be so foolish as to leave something as important as time up to man any of His creations to decide and tamper with: we never created time therefore we have no right to alter God's Solar calendar of 364 Days. If you actually stop stupidly trying to fit 364 days into 365.25 days then you would see that the festivals never shift at all, no matter how much time passes.

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

I totally agree. So either a 364 day calendar has to be intercalated or 364 day calendar proponents need to prove a solar year is not 365.25 days long.

Another idiotic comment: when will you understand that all of the nations of the earth descended from the three sons of Noah? Therefore if we follow the narrative correctly YHWH has always had a Solar Calendar of 364 Days from the time of Adam which, I have proven scripturally and mathematically through our current canon on my blog. Seeing as how Ham sinned against Noah: it is no surprise to see that his descendants Canaan and Mitsraim (Egypt) not only followed a solar calendar but, altered it to be 365 days as opposed to the original 364 Days from YHWH.

 

[daq]

Another idiotic comment: when will you understand that all of the nations of the earth descended from the three sons of Noah? Therefore if we follow the narrative correctly YHWH has always had a Solar Calendar of 364 Days from the time of Adam which, I have proven scripturally and mathematically through our current canon on my blog. Seeing as how Ham sinned against Noah: it is no surprise to see that his descendants Canaan and Mitsraim (Egypt) not only followed a solar calendar but, altered it to be 365 days as opposed to the original 364 Days from YHWH.

"Blessed is the man who dies in righteousness and goodness; concerning whom there is no book of unrighteousness written, and against whom no day of judgement shall be found", (so perhaps the day of judgment [the flood] was a hidden day in the time of Enoch and not reckoned in the 365-day calendar of Enoch? ).

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

Lev 23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts (moadi) of YHWH, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts (moadi).

Lev 23:4 These are the feasts (moadi) of YHWH, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.​

There is no colon in the Hebrew text. Therefore, the translator wishes ...

I am glad you know how to quote scripture, I wish you knew how to comprehend that the word still is defined as an appointed time in the Hebrew. What surprises me about people who are so quick to start choosing out words and calling out Strong's numbers is that those same people lack the basic reading and comprehension skills for their own native tongue. Did you know that there were no punctuation marks in the Hebrew?

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

"Blessed is the man who dies in righteousness and goodness; concerning whom there is no book of unrighteousness written, and against whom no day of judgement shall be found", (so perhaps the day of judgment [the flood] was a hidden day in the time of Enoch and not reckoned in the 365-day calendar of Enoch? ).

No, the flood did not affect YHWH's time keeping, nor did Noah or YHWH forget miraculously what time it was just because a natural disaster occurred. It was not hidden as God told Noah about the coming flood and Enoch was still alive before, during, and after the time of Noah.

 

[daq]

No, the flood did not affect YHWH's time keeping, nor did Noah or YHWH forget miraculously what time it was just because a natural disaster occurred. It was not hidden as God told Noah about the coming flood and Enoch was still alive before, during, and after the time of Noah.

Where did I say anything affected anything? I suggested that "the day of judgment" was hidden before the flood; just as the day of judgment for each in his or her own appointed times is hidden now. The day of judgement then, in the time of Enoch, was the flood itself which was the judgement of the old world, (and even if Enoch is written long after it is still written in that time frame and context, as if before the flood, from the authors chosen writing perspective). I quoted Enoch in my previous post and that statement strongly implies that the day of judgment was hidden, (hidden as concerning the Enoch calendar itself, that is, not recognized although it is indeed therein; like a day not reckoned, a fast day). Likewise Yoseph married the daughter of the priest of On, that is, Heliopolis, the city of the sun. Do you not think Yoseph knew the length of the year as 365 days even in his time? The Egyptians certainly did know the length of the year by the heliacal rising of Sirius, (though they never accounted for the quarter day in their calendar). And again Moshe was raised in the house of Pharaoh, under Pharaoh's daughter: do you not think that Moshe knew the length of the year as 365 days in his time? Do you suppose he grew up in Egyptian society thinking to himself, "Gee, these people are heathens not knowing the year is really 364 days! I gotta get outta here!"??

Also the observations in the book of the luminaries from 1Enoch were not observed anywhere near the latitudes at Qumran or Yerushalem but rather much closer to the equator, like maybe southern Egypt, or maybe even northern Ethiopia. At the latitudes in Yerushalem you cannot and do not have the equal spread of weeks between the equinoxes and solstices which are written in 1Enoch, (four equal seasonal spans of thirteen weeks apiece). At the Yerushalem latitude there are fourteen weeks from the vernal equinox until the summer solstice, then fourteen weeks until the autumnal equinox, then twelve weeks until the winter solstice, then twelve weeks until the vernal equinox; and that is nowhere near what is written in 1Enoch. And if you are incorrect about 1Enoch then you are certainly not correct about the Torah because no doubt you are basing your primary information for a calendar of 364 days on 1Enoch to begin with.

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

Where did I say anything affected anything? I suggested that "the day of judgment" was hidden before the flood; just as the day of judgment for each in his or her own appointed times is hidden now. The day of judgement then, in the time of Enoch, was the flood itself which was the judgement of the old world, (and even if Enoch is written long after it is still written in that time frame and context, as if before the flood, from the authors chosen writing perspective). I quoted Enoch in my previous post and that statement strongly implies that the day of judgment was hidden, (hidden as concerning the Enoch calendar itself, that is, not recognized although it is indeed therein; like a day not reckoned, a fast day). Likewise Yoseph married the daughter of the priest of On, that is, Heliopolis, the city of the sun. Do you not think Yoseph knew the length of the year as 365 days even in his time? The Egyptians certainly did know the length of the year by the heliacal rising of Sirius, (though they never accounted for the quarter day in their calendar). And again Moshe was raised in the house of Pharaoh, under Pharaoh's daughter: do you not think that Moshe knew the length of the year as 365 days in his time? Do you suppose he grew up in Egyptian society thinking to himself, "Gee, these people are heathens not knowing the year is really 364 days! I gotta get outta here!"??

Also the observations in the book of the luminaries from 1Enoch were not observed anywhere near the latitudes at Qumran or Yerushalem but rather much closer to the equator, like maybe southern Egypt, or maybe even northern Ethiopia. At the latitudes in Yerushalem you cannot and do not have the equal spread of weeks between the equinoxes and solstices which are written in 1Enoch, (four equal seasonal spans of thirteen weeks apiece). At the Yerushalem latitude there are fourteen weeks from the vernal equinox until the summer solstice, then fourteen weeks until the autumnal equinox, then twelve weeks until the winter solstice, then twelve weeks until the vernal equinox; and that is nowhere near what is written in 1Enoch. And if you are incorrect about 1Enoch then you are certainly not correct about the Torah because no doubt you are basing your primary information for a calendar of 364 days on 1Enoch to begin with.

If you view my blog entry Proof of a 364 Day Solar Calendar In the Bible (without Quoting 1 Enoch or Jubilees) you will see that I use only our current canon and mathematics to prove my case. Let's keep in mind that there is no where in 1 Enoch nor the Torah where one must be in Jerusalem to know how long a year lasts: for a year is a year no matter where on earth you are just as a day is a day wherever you go. I must remind you that Moses knew he was a Hebrew and needed to leave the Egyptians: as he demonstrated his love for the Hebrews in killing the Egyptian task master for beating a fellow Israelite. Also bear in mind that Moses was not some random child picked from the Israelites as his parents were of the tribe of Levi; and, from the way he led his life after leaving Egypt it is clear that Moses held all of God's ways to the utmost and was zealous for His Laws. Let's not forget that Egypt and Canaan are descended from Ham who modeled the rebellion of Cain to his children. You are insinuating that Egypt was the sole originator knowledge of all things in heaven and earth but, this I have already proven to not be the case as Egypt is descended from Ham who is from Noah, who is from Lamech, who is from Methuselah, who is from Enoch, who is from Jared, and on all the way to Adam, who is the son of God: therefore all things originated from God: including His 364 Day Calendar.

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

Where did I say anything affected anything? I suggested that "the day of judgment" was hidden before the flood; just as the day of judgment for each in his or her own appointed times is hidden now. The day of judgement then, in the time of Enoch, was the flood itself which was the judgement of the old world, (and even if Enoch is written long after it is still written in that time frame and context, as if before the flood, from the authors chosen writing perspective). I quoted Enoch in my previous post and that statement strongly implies that the day of judgment was hidden, (hidden as concerning the Enoch calendar itself, that is, not recognized although it is indeed therein; like a day not reckoned, a fast day). Likewise Yoseph married the daughter of the priest of On, that is, Heliopolis, the city of the sun. Do you not think Yoseph knew the length of the year as 365 days even in his time? The Egyptians certainly did know the length of the year by the heliacal rising of Sirius, (though they never accounted for the quarter day in their calendar). And again Moshe was raised in the house of Pharaoh, under Pharaoh's daughter: do you not think that Moshe knew the length of the year as 365 days in his time? Do you suppose he grew up in Egyptian society thinking to himself, "Gee, these people are heathens not knowing the year is really 364 days! I gotta get outta here!"??

Also the observations in the book of the luminaries from 1Enoch were not observed anywhere near the latitudes at Qumran or Yerushalem but rather much closer to the equator, like maybe southern Egypt, or maybe even northern Ethiopia. At the latitudes in Yerushalem you cannot and do not have the equal spread of weeks between the equinoxes and solstices which are written in 1Enoch, (four equal seasonal spans of thirteen weeks apiece). At the Yerushalem latitude there are fourteen weeks from the vernal equinox until the summer solstice, then fourteen weeks until the autumnal equinox, then twelve weeks until the winter solstice, then twelve weeks until the vernal equinox; and that is nowhere near what is written in 1Enoch. And if you are incorrect about 1Enoch then you are certainly not correct about the Torah because no doubt you are basing your primary information for a calendar of 364 days on 1Enoch to begin with.

And if you read 1 Enoch carefully then you would've read in the parables or dreams section that Enoch was shown a vision of the coming flood during the days of Noah; likewise before this we read in the Life of Adam and Eve that Eve was given a vision of two judgments coming upon the earth: one by water and the other by fire. And if you are familiar with Jasher then you would also know that Cainan knew about the coming flood and warned his two daughters Adah and Zillah about it. The only part hidden from all about the flood is the day and the hour which God would bring about His Day ofJudgment.

 

[daq]

If you view my blog entry Proof of a 364 Day Solar Calendar In the Bible (without Quoting 1 Enoch or Jubilees) you will see that I use only our current canon and mathematics to prove my case. Let's keep in mind that there is no where in 1 Enoch nor the Torah where one must be in Jerusalem to know how long a year lasts: for a year is a year no matter where on earth you are just as a day is a day wherever you go. I must remind you that Moses knew he was a Hebrew and needed to leave the Egyptians: as he demonstrated his love for the Hebrews in killing the Egyptian task master for beating a fellow Israelite. Also bear in mind that Moses was not some random child picked from the Israelites as his parents were of the tribe of Levi; and, from the way he led his life after leaving Egypt it is clear that Moses held all of God's ways to the utmost and was zealous for His Laws. Let's not forget that Egypt and Canaan are descended from Ham who modeled the rebellion of Cain to his children. You are insinuating that Egypt was the sole originator knowledge of all things in heaven and earth but, this I have already proven to not be the case as Egypt is descended from Ham who is from Noah, who is from Lamech, who is from Methuselah, who is from Enoch, who is from Jared, and on all the way to Adam, who is the son of God: therefore all things originated from God: including His 364 Day Calendar.

Perhaps I may be incorrect but you appear to be trying to make a 365 day calendar out to be "pagan" by association with Ham and Egypt with its system of sun worship, (guilty by association without actually coming out and saying what you are implying), but such things have nothing to do with the facts. Also, I have not denigrated Moshe in any way, and never would, so your response only verifies what I already suspected and tells me that I have no need to look at your blog, (and that is not even to mention what I understand from my own Torah studies).

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

Perhaps I may be incorrect but you appear to be trying to make a 365 day calendar out to be "pagan" by association with Ham and Egypt with its system of sun worship, (guilty by association without actually coming out and saying what you are implying), but such things have nothing to do with the facts. Also, I have not denigrated Moshe in any way, and never would, so your response only verifies what I already suspected and tells me that I have no need to look at your blog, (and that is not even to mention what I understand from my own Torah studies).

Please, I have no need to hide behind anything as I have made it clear to all on my other blog entry False Solar, Lunar, Astral, and Agricultural Calendars that all man made solar calendars find their origin in Egypt; and, all man made lunar calendars find their origin in Babylon. Not only is Egypt descended from Ham but, also Cush who begat Nimrod who built the city of Babel which we know as Babylon; so yes, all of this is relevant that all who follow the man made calendars of these men are guilty according to the Law of God. Did not God command us not to return to Egypt? And to come out of Babylon?

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

Perhaps I may be incorrect but you appear to be trying to make a 365 day calendar out to be "pagan" by association with Ham and Egypt with its system of sun worship, (guilty by association without actually coming out and saying what you are implying), but such things have nothing to do with the facts. Also, I have not denigrated Moshe in any way, and never would, so your response only verifies what I already suspected and tells me that I have no need to look at your blog, (and that is not even to mention what I understand from my own Torah studies).

Close your eyes, block your ears, and stiffen your neck all you like: it will not change the truth of what is plainly stated in the Bible.

 

[daq]

Please, I have no need to hide behind anything as I have made it clear to all on my other blog entry False Solar, Lunar, Astral, and Agricultural Calendars that all man made solar calendars find their origin in Egypt; and, all man made lunar calendars find their origin in Babylon. Not only is Egypt descended from Ham but, also Cush who begat Nimrod who built the city of Babel which we know as Babylon; so yes, all of this is relevant that all who follow the man made calendars of these men are guilty according to the Law of God. Did not God command us not to return to Egypt? And to come out of Babylon?

Close your eyes, block your ears, and stiffen your neck all you like: it will not change the truth of what is plainly stated in the Bible.

It seems quite clear that you set your own self up as Elohim because you make it out to be as if anyone who disagrees with your own interpretation of the scripture disagrees with Elohim Himself. Sorry to inform you but that is no way to discuss or even debate topics and simply is not spoken in truth.

Show me that a twenty-four hour day currently consists of exactly 1440 minutes and perhaps you will have something noteworthy; but until then you really have no clue what you speak of. As of right now you are about five minutes short in every day and under such circumstances there cannot be only three hundred and sixty-four days in one full revolution of planet earth around the sun, (a year). This is true because one full revolution of planet earth around the sun still consists of 1440 minutes multiplied by 364 days, which amounts to 524,160 minutes in one full year. However, if the full revolution of one year is maintained at 524,160 minutes and yet the length of each day of the year consists of less than 1440 minutes, (one twenty-four hour revolution of the earth spinning upon its axis), then your whole theory is nothing more than that; a theory, and a bad one at that because the math does not add up. A twenty-four hour day is not actually a full twenty-four hours of sixty minutes apiece, (1440 minutes), because every day is short by about 4.9 minutes, which amounts to about thirty hours per year, (which is about a day and a quarter, making 365.24235 days in a year). What you are telling me is that Elohim has a "secret calendar" that does not match His creation which is plainly observable; and because I do not agree with your theory I must be stiffnecked, (lol).

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

It seems quite clear that you set your own self up as Elohim because you make it out to be as if anyone who disagrees with your own interpretation of the scripture disagrees with Elohim Himself. Sorry to inform you but that is no way to discuss or even debate topics and simply is not spoken in truth.

Show me that a twenty-four hour day currently consists of exactly 1440 minutes and perhaps you will have something noteworthy; but until then you really have no clue what you speak of. As of right now you are about five minutes short in every day and under such circumstances there cannot be only three hundred and sixty-four days in one full revolution of planet earth around the sun, (a year). This is true because one full revolution of planet earth around the sun still consists of 1440 minutes multiplied by 364 days, which amounts to 524,160 minutes in one full year. However, if the full revolution of one year is maintained at 524,160 minutes and yet the length of each day of the year consists of less than 1440 minutes, (one twenty-four hour revolution of the earth spinning upon its axis), then your whole theory is nothing more than that; a theory, and a bad one at that because the math does not add up. A twenty-four hour day is not actually a full twenty-four hours of sixty minutes apiece, (1440 minutes), because every day is short by about 4.9 minutes, which amounts to about thirty hours per year, (which is about a day and a quarter, making 365.24235 days in a year). What you are telling me is that Elohim has a "secret calendar" that does not match His creation which is plainly observable; and because I do not agree with your theory I must be stiffnecked, (lol).

That is still assuming that the earth is moving though scripture states that it does not: afterall heaven is God's throne and earth is His footstool therefore it does not move (not to mention that there are plenty of passages where God set the pillars of the earth so it would not move). The problem is not people agreeing with me for, I could care less: I care about whether or not my beliefs match up with what is plainly stated in scripture and, if the beliefs of others do. Anyways your sarcasm and argument from incredulity does not disprove what I pointed out to you or others. You also assume that the true year is 365.25 days which is why you believe 364 Days would fall out of synch but, where are your sources from? Man made traditions: mine are from God. You act like you have to answer to me when in the end we all answer to God. I've shown my works on my blog (which you are too scared to look into) so please refute those points if you really have something.

 

[YHWH_will_uplift]

It seems quite clear that you set your own self up as Elohim because you make it out to be as if anyone who disagrees with your own interpretation of the scripture disagrees with Elohim Himself. Sorry to inform you but that is no way to discuss or even debate topics and simply is not spoken in truth.

Show me that a twenty-four hour day currently consists of exactly 1440 minutes and perhaps you will have something noteworthy; but until then you really have no clue what you speak of. As of right now you are about five minutes short in every day and under such circumstances there cannot be only three hundred and sixty-four days in one full revolution of planet earth around the sun, (a year). This is true because one full revolution of planet earth around the sun still consists of 1440 minutes multiplied by 364 days, which amounts to 524,160 minutes in one full year. However, if the full revolution of one year is maintained at 524,160 minutes and yet the length of each day of the year consists of less than 1440 minutes, (one twenty-four hour revolution of the earth spinning upon its axis), then your whole theory is nothing more than that; a theory, and a bad one at that because the math does not add up. A twenty-four hour day is not actually a full twenty-four hours of sixty minutes apiece, (1440 minutes), because every day is short by about 4.9 minutes, which amounts to about thirty hours per year, (which is about a day and a quarter, making 365.24235 days in a year). What you are telling me is that Elohim has a "secret calendar" that does not match His creation which is plainly observable; and because I do not agree with your theory I must be stiffnecked, (lol).

And please get your histories straight before spouting off nonsense. At present NASA has only supposed success mission to the moon and yet, they are still only able to provide us with approximate distances between the earth and the moon? And then they stopped having trips to the moon after one "success"? And now we're supposed to believe they can make it to Mars? And after "leaving earth" they can only provide composite images of the earth? And these people also believe that we have 365.25 days/year but, have no proof of a moving earth after their "moon landing"? Sigh...no surprise there as NASA is the same Hebrew word NaSAH which means beguile. Not only this but I've proven that geneaologically and historically that our man made calendars come from either Egypt or Nimrod: both of whom are descended from Ham. So for those who claim to "care about what the Bible says" should take this evidence to heart.