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As do all who are not textual scholars though!

Not at all! Deal with the issues and don't appeal to 'authorities' as the sole people who can think through textual critical issues.
 
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You tell me. You are the one who claims he knows which is correct.
My current reasoning would be along the line of what was outlined at Bible.org, under The majority text and the original text: Are they identical?
 
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Not at all! Deal with the issues and don't appeal to 'authorities' as the sole people who can think through textual critical issues.
The article at Bible.org on The Majority Text and the Original text: Are they identical make very persuasive arguements to me!
 
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The article at Bible.org on The Majority Text and the Original text: Are they identical make very persuasive arguements to me!

Please provide the link or direct me to your post above where the link is located.
 
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What is God's word the majority text or the minority text?

I am leaning to the majority text since the Alexandrian ones are different and should not be trusted.
I have read several translations which either come from the Alexandrian or the Byzantine Text. Something that must be kept in mind is that the Alexandrian and Byzantine Texts are not the actual original manuscripts written by Paul, Moses, Jeremiah, John, etc. these are merely copies of the original manuscripts written by the original authors. I believe that both texts are very accurate although I would give the Byzantine Text a slight edge over the Alexandrian ones in terms of biblical accuracy since they are closer to the manuscripts found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Whatever text one prefers though they both are descended from the original manuscripts and continue to be the infallible word of God which the Holy Spirit continues to use to lead people to salvation and bring about further revelation in the hearts and minds of people.
 
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Something that must be kept in mind is that the Alexandrian and Byzantine Texts are not the actual original manuscripts written by Paul, Moses, Jeremiah, John, etc. these are merely copies of the original manuscripts written by the original authors.
Actually both the Byzantine and Alexandrian textforms are Greek. And Jeremiah, the Old Testament Prophet, wrote in Hebrew, not Greek.

I believe that both texts are very accurate although I would give the Byzantine Text a slight edge over the Alexandrian ones in terms of biblical accuracy since they are closer to the manuscripts found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
The Dead Sea Scrolls (qumran manuscripts) are Hebrew (Or Aramaic written using Hebrew orthography) and have nothing to do with the Greek textforms under discussion.

The Alexandrian textform bears that name due to its being associated with the great Egyptian university at Alexandria. However, prior to the 8th century AD the language of Egypt was not Greek, but Coptic.

The Byzantine textform, on the other hand bears its name due to its being associated with the Byzantine Empire where Greek was the national language.

And even today, the Patriarchal Text of the Greek Orthodox Church is Byzantine in character.

Who better to know the most accurate Greek text then those whose daily language is Greek? :)
 
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Actually both the Byzantine and Alexandrian textforms are Greek. And Jeremiah, the Old Testament Prophet, wrote in Hebrew, not Greek.

The Dead Sea Scrolls (qumran manuscripts) are Hebrew (Or Aramaic written using Hebrew orthography) and have nothing to do with the Greek textforms under discussion.

The Alexandrian textform bears that name due to its being associated with the great Egyptian university at Alexandria. However, prior to the 8th century AD the language of Egypt was not Greek, but Coptic.

The Byzantine textform, on the other hand bears its name due to its being associated with the Byzantine Empire where Greek was the national language.

And even today, the Patriarchal Text of the Greek Orthodox Church is Byzantine in character.

Who better to know the most accurate Greek text then those whose daily language is Greek? :)
Actually both the Byzantine and Alexandrian textforms are Greek. And Jeremiah, the Old Testament Prophet, wrote in Hebrew, not Greek.

The Dead Sea Scrolls (qumran manuscripts) are Hebrew (Or Aramaic written using Hebrew orthography) and have nothing to do with the Greek textforms under discussion.

The Alexandrian textform bears that name due to its being associated with the great Egyptian university at Alexandria. However, prior to the 8th century AD the language of Egypt was not Greek, but Coptic.

The Byzantine textform, on the other hand bears its name due to its being associated with the Byzantine Empire where Greek was the national language.

And even today, the Patriarchal Text of the Greek Orthodox Church is Byzantine in character.

Who better to know the most accurate Greek text then those whose daily language is Greek? :)
Actually both the Byzantine and Alexandrian textforms are Greek. And Jeremiah, the Old Testament Prophet, wrote in Hebrew, not Greek.

The Dead Sea Scrolls (qumran manuscripts) are Hebrew (Or Aramaic written using Hebrew orthography) and have nothing to do with the Greek textforms under discussion.

The Alexandrian textform bears that name due to its being associated with the great Egyptian university at Alexandria. However, prior to the 8th century AD the language of Egypt was not Greek, but Coptic.

The Byzantine textform, on the other hand bears its name due to its being associated with the Byzantine Empire where Greek was the national language.

And even today, the Patriarchal Text of the Greek Orthodox Church is Byzantine in character.

Who better to know the most accurate Greek text then those whose daily language is Greek? :)

Oh wow I never realized that the Alexandrian and Byzantine texts were just copies of the New Testament, I was under the impression that they contained the texts used in both the Tanach and the New Testament. Thank you my friend for shedding light on this.
 
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Oh wow I never realized that the Alexandrian and Byzantine texts were just copies of the New Testament, I was under the impression that they contained the texts used in both the Tanach and the New Testament. Thank you my friend for shedding light on this.

R,

I found this to be a useful article to explain the languages used in the original Bible:In what language was the Bible first written?

Oz
 
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I have read several translations which either come from the Alexandrian or the Byzantine Text. Something that must be kept in mind is that the Alexandrian and Byzantine Texts are not the actual original manuscripts written by Paul, Moses, Jeremiah, John, etc. these are merely copies of the original manuscripts written by the original authors. I believe that both texts are very accurate although I would give the Byzantine Text a slight edge over the Alexandrian ones in terms of biblical accuracy since they are closer to the manuscripts found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Whatever text one prefers though they both are descended from the original manuscripts and continue to be the infallible word of God which the Holy Spirit continues to use to lead people to salvation and bring about further revelation in the hearts and minds of people.
You post is the real answer to be found in this question!
 
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