So the people who make hand sanitizer are initially making poison and should be called guilty for murder just because it CAN be eatten. Making something that is capable of something and making something that's supposed to do something are two entirely different things. You can not compare them. Because something can be capable of something that is not it's initial purpose.
Then you continue to apply the logic that allows folks to justify doing what they want with no regard for the FULL COUNSEL of God's Word.
If you want to deal with what was said, we can. But I don't do the whole red herring comparisons.
There's nothing Biblically that says enjoying sex is sin.
There sure isn't. But time and time again, God's Word points out that sex is to be between a man and wife joined in covenant with Him. HE speaks of fornication and HE speaks of adultery. Not a single time does He ever give any indication that His intent for sex was for recreational , outside the marriage covenant purposes.
If HE did, then HE would have to have lied about something and God is not a liar.
Plain and simple, when you guys continue to put forth these twists to allow for sin, it's obvious that it is not of God because you've opened the door for confusion about something else that He says.
And technically, the Bible does. Song of Songs embraces sex as far more than just a way to make children and as something completely natural. I'm not saying "go have sex", in fact I specifically addressed SINGLE, MUTUAL RELATIONSHIPS. Obviously, there is far more to sex than just the sex part.
Technically, you're grasping for straws now. And this is what happens when folks try to justify sin. Technically, you can justify whatever you want. But the man of God is still going to speak truth and tell you that God says its wrong and tell you why He says it's wrong.
If you're going to advocate, single mutual relationships, where are you granted the authority to not say "go have sex"?
How is having a single , mutual sexual relationship not sin?
As for sex, it is an act. There is NOTHING more to it than committing the act. You either do it or you don't. The reasons behind that decision don't change the act, and the fact that God says it is sin if not done within parameters clearly given by Him.
Again, big difference. God tells us not to steal. By your logic, that means He just doesn't want us to have anything because obviously stealing is the only way to get what we want. Of course, that isn't true. Likewise, God tells us not to fornicate. This doesn't mean we can't have sex or fulfill sexual desire, no matter what orientation we are.
Somwhere along the line you have mistaken what was said. The Bible says
"Everything is permissible for me"—but not everything is beneficial. "Everything is permissible for me"—but I will not be mastered by anything. 1 Cor. 6:12
SO yes, you can do whatever you CHOOSE. But God has clearly defined whether or not what you CHOOSE to do is sin. And He has clearly given parameters in which you may do what HE says.
If you want to steal, you stealing has nothing to do with you having anything for there is a LEGAL way for you to get the things you need.
If you want to have sex outside the marriage covenant of man, woman, and Christ, you have the right to make that CHOICE. But it does not change the Biblical affirmation that your way is NOT God's Way and thus your way is disobedient.
You just said whether or not you're born with it is irrelevent.
It is irrelevant. Being born with an attraction doesn't make you fornicate. The choice has to be made.
I said that God makes whatever you're born with from the start. If God creates you purposely with an attraction for men, God is initially doing the tempting.
And Biblically, what you say is not of God. The Bible says
13When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; 14but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed. James 1:13-14
God makes people attracted to the opposite sex too. Is He also tempting them to fornicate?
You're offering up responses that Biblically do not hold up.