But it is spinning backwards!

[Kookaburra]

Today at 03:52 PM Arikay said this in Post #14 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=656083#post656083)

Ardi: I agree, I would like to see the article that states that everything spun off of the big bang.

Kookaburra:
Well, galaxies are very big, so a collision of a galaxy can sometimes mean they pass right through each other. However, if there were large gravity masses at the center, they could bounce off each other and change rotations. Unfortunatly I dont know much about this besides that you dont really touch anything, you only feel the interaction between forces. So a large but compact galaxy, could act very similiar to a basketball, in the fact that the forces could act as one.

But that would require one galaxy to already be spinning anti-clockwise. And if that is true, then it must have hit a galaxy turning anti-clockwise BEFORE, and so on and so on, but why did the FIRST galaxy to turn anti-clockwise turn anticlockwise? Man, I feel like I just confused everybody, including myself. Try to decode that, would you?

 

[ikester7579]

Yesterday at 11:32 PM Arikay said this in Post #4 


Can you quote god on this? Or are you putting words into his mouth? Isnt doing that a sin?

 

This must be your favorite saying. You just love to say this cause you like to try to get a rise out of someone. It's a poor attempt if it's the only thing you can come up with to do this.

 

[LewisWildermuth]

Today at 12:53 AM Kookaburra said this in Post #21 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=656236#post656236)

But that would require one galaxy to already be spinning anti-clockwise. And if that is true, then it must have hit a galaxy turning anti-clockwise BEFORE, and so on and so on, but why did the FIRST galaxy to turn anti-clockwise turn anticlockwise? Man, I feel like I just confused everybody, including myself. Try to decode that, would you?

Not at all, here is an experiment for you to try to show you how...

Take two coffee cups and slowly turn one with each hand in the same direction while moving them closer together. When they contact you will see that the sides that contact are actually going in different directions. If one cup had more force than the other it would reverse it's spin.

As far as why the fist galaxy that spun began spinning? It could be that when galaxies form the collisions that are part of their formation start them spinning. It could be something else. I just feel uncomfortable stuffing God into a gap that might be answered soon or already answered.

 

[LewisWildermuth]

Oh and another quick note, we may be in the middle of a galactic collision...

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=7638

Neat huh?

 

[Arikay]

LOL

Nope, not at all.

Im asking the question based on the beliefs of others. If I were to say:
"God created science to disprove the bible."
Would you take the statement as is? or would you ask me where god said this?
If I told you that god never said this, would you not then say I was lieing?
Would you not also think about how lieing, and pretending I was god, was a sin?

How come some christians seem to be exempt from these questions, but im not? Or can I just start comeing up with things that god said, so I could get and explain anything I wanted?

Today at 01:06 AM ikester7579 said this in Post #22 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=656245#post656245)

 

This must be your favorite saying. You just love to say this cause you like to try to get a rise out of someone. It's a poor attempt if it's the only thing you can come up with to do this.

 

[ikester7579]

No I'd say it was your opinion because I know it's not in the Bible. Why ask?
And the part where you try to explain your posting. I think it's funny. You really need to come up with a new one. After so many posts it gets old lol. And the part where you want to use God's word to prove your point. I pray you don't twist it around. Because God does not like that. Just ask the originators of the NIV Bible.

 

[Arikay]

So if I said "what you really ment was that you worship satan"

that would be my opinion and not a lie?

 

[ikester7579]

It would be your opinion and a lie to God. He is the one who keeps tally of this for judgement day.

 

[Arikay]

Ah, ic. so no one is actually lieing even if they are presenting false information.

Today at 02:28 AM ikester7579 said this in Post #28 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=656276#post656276)

It would be your opinion and a lie to God. He is the one who keeps tally of this for judgement day.

 

[ikester7579]

You said it not me. It is your opinion in this free country.

 

[ikester7579]

Im going to bed. This childish game is getting old. cya

O hi seesaw. Glad you could join us. Funny how it takes several to refute something.

 

[Arikay]

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Today at 03:00 AM ikester7579 said this in Post #30 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=656297#post656297)

You said it not me. It is your opinion in this free country.

 

[Jerry Smith]

Hint for those looking for explanations of rotation in galaxies, solar systems, and celestial bodies:

None of these things existed at the time of the big bang,and there is no evidence that the matter that would eventually become tied up in them was spinning at that time.

Rotation was introduced to proto-solar systems and proto-galaxies separately at a later time, and without preference to direction or plane. The only phenomena that need an explanation, then, are the rotations of certain bodies within the solar system that have deviated from their original direction or plane. These can be explained quite well by gravitational interactions or collisions where angular momentum was transferred unpredictably between different bodies.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Today at 06:02 AM ikester7579 said this in Post #31

Im going to bed. This childish game is getting old. cya

O hi seesaw. Glad you could join us. Funny how it takes several to refute something.

It doesn't "take" several people to refute John, it's merely evidence of what I call "Poe's law of Refuted Logic:"

The more nonsense you try to pass off as "Truth," the more people will rise up to show you that it's nonsense.

JohnR7 really rung the bell on this thread, but no more than he usually does.

 

[JohnR7]

Today at 10:46 AM Nathan Poe said this in Post #34  JohnR7 really rung the bell on this thread, but no more than he usually does.

You people would all get bored if I did not come along to stir things up around here.

 

[JohnR7]

Today at 12:41 AM Kookaburra said this in Post #13 Haha, can you get a whole galaxy to start spinning a different direction? 

That was the question, why is a whole galaxy spinning backwards? You guys think I make this stuff up

Goofy galaxy spins in wrong direction

http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/02/08/oddball.galaxy/

 

[lithium.]

I haven't read the link yet (I’ll do it in a few min), but it looks like the galaxy has a Super Massive Black Hole in the center of the galaxy. I would think any galaxy with a super black hole could start spinning in a different direction if it hit another galaxy with a Super Massive Black Hole. If I’m wrong here someone correct me.

 

[Zadok001]

"That was the question, why is a whole galaxy spinning backwards? You guys think I make this stuff up"

You think this means something? Galaxy spins backwards. Whoop-de-doo. Possible causes include galactic collisions, a gravitational anomaly, etc. This is not, repeat NOT, proof of God. Sorry, John. You're gonna have to do better than this. Heck, you're gonna have to do SOMETHING.

 

[MartinM]

Today at 08:49 PM JohnR7 said this in Post #36 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=656898#post656898)

That was the question, why is a whole galaxy spinning backwards? You guys think I make this stuff up

Goofy galaxy spins in wrong direction

http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/space/02/08/oddball.galaxy/

Did you even read the article? It has nothing to do with your OP. This galaxy is not rotating the 'wrong way' relative to some mystical preferred direction set by some imagined rotation during the Big Bang. It is rotating the 'wrong way' relative to its own arms - they lead the rotation, instead of trailing it. If you read the article, you'll note that the leading explanation is indeed a collision.

 

[crazyfingers]

Spinning backwards relative to what?

Y'all do realize that if a spinning thing is flipped on it's axis at will appear to spin the other direction from a contant reference point?