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Well there really aren't any skeletons in our closest anymore. In earlier times there were Christian massages of Muslims, Jews, and fellow Christians, under the auspices of royal conquest or religious crusade or ecclesiastical inquisition. But nowadays there are almost no instances of any serious or systematic Christian violence and almost all instances of earlier Christian violence are skeletons that have long since been brought out of the closest.
Alas, this is a big part of the problem. We have put all that behind us while the ISIS types think of everything in 10th century terms--the definition of their own faith and also the notion they have that the Crusades are still underway.
I recall Obama's saying in the latest news thing about IS/ISIS/ISIL that they were not really muslims. Everytime something on the news has anything on Obama.. I just have to read the comment sections on the article,if any.
I saw comments along the lines of, "Well it doesn't matter what you say they are. They think they're muslim."
What about our extreme branches of Christianity in the vein of ISIS? Are they Christian? They're doing very unchristian things, just like ISIS is doing very un-islamic things.
Please, I request we do not turn this thread into a "well muslims are doing things aligned with their religion!" I wish to discuss the skeletons in our closet. I am just using Islam as an example for comparison as they are making the headlines right now.
Mental illness resulting in suicidal behavior isn't national news.Gxg (G²);67228057 said:Just came across this recently and it surprised me seeing how many were not aware of it: . . .
I guess if you want to categorize who is Christian and who is not, you need to clearly define "Christian".
"You will know them by their fruits"
Christians don't kill, steal and destroy, that's what the enemy does. Remember that the Lord warned us about sheep in wolves clothing. These people who kill, steal, and destroy are not Christian extremists, they are wolves.
I guess it depends on how one defines "christian"; if it is purely a matter of believing and confessing certain doctrines then "yes" is likely the right answer and if it is a matter of both belief and way of life then "no" is likely the right answer.
ISIS is composed of Muslims. But that doesn't make what they are doing representative of the global Muslim community. In the same vein that those groups that bomb abortion clinics and murder doctors are made up of Christians, but what they are doing is not representative of the global Christian community.
Mental illness resulting in suicidal behavior isn't national news.
Once again the voice of reason. I see what you're saying.
We also can't seem to reign in our fanatics either. What is a christian solution for dealing with our fanatics? Rebuking them? Some sort of excommunication of them wouldn't do anything I would imagine, and they would just do what my argument fallacy is doing : claim that the excommunicators aren't really christian themselves.
I recall Obama's saying in the latest news thing about IS/ISIS/ISIL that they were not really muslims. Everytime something on the news has anything on Obama.. I just have to read the comment sections on the article,if any.
I saw comments along the lines of, "Well it doesn't matter what you say they are. They think they're muslim."
What about our extreme branches of Christianity in the vein of ISIS? Are they Christian? They're doing very unchristian things, just like ISIS is doing very un-islamic things.
Please, I request we do not turn this thread into a "well muslims are doing things aligned with their religion!" I wish to discuss the skeletons in our closet. I am just using Islam as an example for comparison as they are making the headlines right now.
Gxg (G²);67228057 said:Just came across this recently and it surprised me seeing how many were not aware of it:
A Muslim American man carrying a duffel bag that holds six homemade explosives, a machete, and poison spray travels to a major U.S. airport. The man enters the airport, approaches the TSA security checkpoint, and then sprays two TSA officers with the poison. He then grabs his machete and chases another TSA officer with it.
This Muslim man is then shot and killed by the police. After the incident, a search of the attacker’s car by the police reveals it contained acetylene and oxygen tanks, two substances that, when mixed together, will yield a powerful explosive.
If this scenario occurred, there’s zero doubt that this would be called a terrorist attack. Zero. It would make headlines across the country and world, and we would see wall-to-wall cable news coverage for days. And, of course, certain right-wing media outlets, many conservative politicians, and Bill Maher would use this event as another excuse to stoke the flames of hate toward Muslims.
Well, last Friday night, this exact event took place at the New Orleans airport—that is, except for one factual difference: The attacker was not Muslim. Consequently, you might be reading about this brazen assault for the first time here, although this incident did receive a smattering of media coverage over the weekend.
The man who commited this attack was Richard White, a 63-year-old former Army serviceman who has long been retired and living on Social Security and disability checks. He was reportedly a devout Jehovah’s Witness.
Who the heck.. gxg![ not lloj for once]
Why do people immediately have to compare Christianity to Islam whenever this discussion is brought up? Why deflect the problem? it doesn't matter how minor it is now, it still persists.
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