Bundy Charges Dismissed, Nevada Armed Standoff Against Fed's

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Charges Against Bundys in Ranch Standoff Case Are Dismissed

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Members of the Bundy family and their supporters near Bunkerville, Nev., in April 2014. By KIRK JOHNSON

Jan. 8, 2018
A federal judge in Las Vegas dismissed charges against Cliven Bundy and his sons, Ammon and Ryan, on Monday.

Judge Gloria M. Navarro of Federal District Court, in a ruling from the bench, said that the government’s missteps in withholding evidence against the three Bundy family members and a supporter, Ryan W. Payne, were so grave that the indictment against them would be dismissed.

The decision could be appealed by prosecutors. But they would only be able to bring charges again if they won the appeal and the ruling was reversed — and they then got a new indictment from a new grand jury.

Judge Navarro declared a mistrial last month in the case, stemming from an armed standoff at the Bundy ranch in 2014 that had arisen over land-grazing fees. She said then that prosecutors had erred in failing to turn over important evidence to the defense, including video taken surreptitiously within the ranch during the standoff, and evidence that F.B.I. agents were involved in the incident.

The 2014 standoff, the focus of Monday’s hearing, was set off when the Bureau of Land Management seized cattle from Cliven Bundy’s ranch in Bunkerville, Nev., in an attempt to force him to pay decades of back fees for grazing his cattle on federal land. Mr. Bundy insisted he did not have to pay the charges because, he said, he had inherited water rights on the land. At the height of the standoff, hundreds of antigovernment activists, many of them carrying guns, rallied to the Bundys cause, until the confrontation ended with the withdrawal of federal agents.
 
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You know this is from January, right?
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

5 months old, and a conservative victory against the liberal Obama Administration, don't ya like seeing that big flag waving, cowboy's on their horses riding?

Looks like freedom to me, what America is all about!
 
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Sounds like sour grapes from a person that lives in the UK, and has no interest in a great American conservative victory!
You posted a random story without comment. Interesting how the rule of law never seems to apply to the right. Great conservative victory if your an anarchist.
 
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What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
It's an old story, that I'm pretty sure was already covered here when it happened. In January. Just making sure you're aware this isn't a new development.

5 months old, and a conservative victory against the liberal Obama Administration, don't ya like seeing that big flag waving, cowboy's on their horses riding?

No I don't.
 
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Charges Against Bundys in Ranch Standoff Case Are Dismissed

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Members of the Bundy family and their supporters near Bunkerville, Nev., in April 2014. By KIRK JOHNSON

Jan. 8, 2018
A federal judge in Las Vegas dismissed charges against Cliven Bundy and his sons, Ammon and Ryan, on Monday.

Judge Gloria M. Navarro of Federal District Court, in a ruling from the bench, said that the government’s missteps in withholding evidence against the three Bundy family members and a supporter, Ryan W. Payne, were so grave that the indictment against them would be dismissed.

The decision could be appealed by prosecutors. But they would only be able to bring charges again if they won the appeal and the ruling was reversed — and they then got a new indictment from a new grand jury.

Judge Navarro declared a mistrial last month in the case, stemming from an armed standoff at the Bundy ranch in 2014 that had arisen over land-grazing fees. She said then that prosecutors had erred in failing to turn over important evidence to the defense, including video taken surreptitiously within the ranch during the standoff, and evidence that F.B.I. agents were involved in the incident.
I have one simple question.

Do you think that Clive Bundy should be held responsible for paying his grazing fees?
 
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I have one simple question.

Do you think that Clive Bundy should be held responsible for paying his grazing fees?
His grazing rights go back in his family 1877 before the Federal Bureau Of Land Management, im not closely familiar with the case, but I do know Obama was flexing his muscle at the time, and he backed down.
 
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His grazing rights go back in his family 1877 before the Federal Bureau Of Land Management, im not closely familiar with the case, but I do know Obama was flexing his muscle at the time, and he backed down.

If you’re not familiar with the case why are you trumpeting about it being a conservative victory?
 
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If you’re not familiar with the case why are you trumping about it being a conservative victory?
I like the part where the bad guy's took the ranchers cattle, and the posse/malitia came in and the bad guy's let his cattle go, and rode away?

Pretty cool story, makes me think about John Wayne, Roy Rogers, and The Lone Ranger!

I just went and got my ole cap guns & holster out, it's howdy doody and buffalo bob time!

The 2014 standoff, the focus of Monday’s hearing, was set off when the Bureau of Land Management seized cattle from Cliven Bundy’s ranch in Bunkerville, Nev., in an attempt to force him to pay decades of back fees for grazing his cattle on federal land. Mr. Bundy insisted he did not have to pay the charges because, he said, he had inherited water rights on the land. At the height of the standoff, hundreds of antigovernment activists, many of them carrying guns, rallied to the Bundys cause, until the confrontation ended with the withdrawal of federal agents.
 
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I like the part where the bad guy's took the ranchers cattle, and the posse/malitia came in and the bad guy's let his cattle go, and rode away?

Pretty cool story, makes me think about John Wayne, Roy Rogers, and The Lone Ranger!

I just went and got my ole cap guns & holster out, it's howdy doody and buffalo bob time!

The 2014 standoff, the focus of Monday’s hearing, was set off when the Bureau of Land Management seized cattle from Cliven Bundy’s ranch in Bunkerville, Nev., in an attempt to force him to pay decades of back fees for grazing his cattle on federal land. Mr. Bundy insisted he did not have to pay the charges because, he said, he had inherited water rights on the land. At the height of the standoff, hundreds of antigovernment activists, many of them carrying guns, rallied to the Bundys cause, until the confrontation ended with the withdrawal of federal agents.
“Bad guys?” If you don’t pay your bills....

If he believed he did not have to there is a place to challenge it, court.
 
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“Bad guys?” If you don’t pay your bills....

If he believed he did not have to there is a place to challenge it, court.
Antigovernment activists, read anarchists.
 
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I like the part where the bad guy's took the ranchers cattle, and the posse/malitia came in and the bad guy's let his cattle go, and rode away?

Pretty cool story, makes me think about John Wayne, Roy Rogers, and The Lone Ranger!
Makes me think of people refusing to pay their bills and fighting the repo man when he shows up.
 
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“Bad guys?” If you don’t pay your bills....

If he believed he did not have to there is a place to challenge it, court.
I don't believe the good guy's in government are pursuing the case any longer, if anything the bundy's might receieve settlement from the good guy's in government now for spending 1.5 years in jail on no information in discovery presented by the bad guys in government at the time.
 
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I don't believe the good guy's in government are pursuing the case any longer, if anything the bundy's might receieve settlement from the good guy's in government now for spending 1.5 years in jail on no information in discovery presented by the bad guys in government at the time.
I repeat if you believe in law and order, you go to court. Yep the govt made a pigs ear out of what should have been a slam dunk case, but the Bundys response to the demand for decades of grazing fees was not the act of “good guys”.
 
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I remember this story of how some white men, armed to the teeth with weapons, took over a bird sanctuary and threatened violence against federal agents. Not a surprise they got off. What a contrast how this situation was handled compared to the unarmed situation in Standing Rock last year.
 
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