Bring Your Bible to School Day

[A Realist]

Jim Daly: It’s Bring Your Bible to School Day – A celebration of religious freedom and God’s love

I've got no issue with this; however, I have to wonder how these same folks would react to "Bring your Quran to School Day".

 

[RaymondG]

Jim Daly: It’s Bring Your Bible to School Day – A celebration of religious freedom and God’s love

I've got no issue with this; however, I have to wonder how these same folks would react to "Bring your Quran to School Day".

Good question, Im sure followers of Christ would welcome muslim days at school.....for they follow his commandment to love they neighbors as thyself and to do unto others as you would have done unto you.

Could I be wrong?

 

[spiritualchristian7]

Exactly! but I guess it could work because it would make sense to bring a Christian bible to a Christian school. Than to bring a quran to a Christian school.

 

[nonaeroterraqueous]

I've got no issue with this; however, I have to wonder how these same folks would react to "Bring your Quran to School Day".

I did bring my Bible to school, back when I was in high school as an assertion of my religious freedom. Yes, it was a secular public school. I could have no problem with other students bringing a Quran, which hits a little closer to the truth than the Darwinian bibles (textbooks) that everyone else was toting to class. I always support the students' right to maintain beliefs contrary to those of the teacher. It's healthy, and we need people who don't just sit there and have their ideas spoon-fed to them.

 

[Hank77]

Exactly! but I guess it could work because it would make sense to bring a Christian bible to a Christian school. Than to bring a quran to a Christian school.

This day has been an event for at least four years. It's not just for Christian schools, it's all schools nationwide.

 

[SaintCody777]

I have that day marked on my calendar. I bring my NKJV pocket Bible to a liberal leaning university not just on "Bring your Bible to School Day" but everyday.

 

[RaymondG]

I have that day marked on my calendar. I bring my NKJV pocket Bible to a liberal leaning university not just on "Bring your Bible to School Day" but everyday.

Why do you bring it? Do you have breaks in between class where you have free time to read it, and actually read it? Or it is a display of your religion?

 

[Brightmoon]

I did bring my Bible to school, back when I was in high school as an assertion of my religious freedom. Yes, it was a secular public school. I could have no problem with other students bringing a Quran, which hits a little closer to the truth than the Darwinian bibles (textbooks) that everyone else was toting to class. I always support the students' right to maintain beliefs contrary to those of the teacher. It's healthy, and we need people who don't just sit there and have their ideas spoon-fed to them.

what’s a Darwinian bible ? Science Textbooks teach summarized lessons on what scientists have already learned about nature? If you want to learn science you have to have at least a working understanding of older research and what it has already figured out.

PS no one cares what Darwin said. his research is old enough to get just a brief summary in middle and high school. That’s not studying evolution, as evolution is a multidisciplinary graduate level field.

.( I swear I don’t understand creationists at all)

 

[zephcom]

Jim Daly: It’s Bring Your Bible to School Day – A celebration of religious freedom and God’s love

I've got no issue with this; however, I have to wonder how these same folks would react to "Bring your Quran to School Day".

I did that the entire school year over fifty years ago. The only noticeable effect I observed was how much more righteous the Bible carrier felt.

No one else even noticed.

 

[public hermit]

Augustine seemed to think if we are mature in the faith we wouldn't even need a bible.

"And thus a man who is resting upon faith, hope and love, and who keeps a firm hold upon these, does not need the Scriptures except for the purpose of instructing others. Accordingly, many live without copies of the Scriptures, even in solitude, on the strength of these three graces" Augustine from (De doctrina Christiana Book I, Ch. 39 "He who is mature in faith hope and love, needs Scripture no longer").

I am sure that is a wild thought to some. But, many of us have so much scripture in memory that we could probably do fine without them if the situation ever arose where we had no access.

 

[zephcom]

Augustine seemed to think if we are mature in the faith we wouldn't even need a bible.

"And thus a man who is resting upon faith, hope and love, and who keeps a firm hold upon these, does not need the Scriptures except for the purpose of instructing others. Accordingly, many live without copies of the Scriptures, even in solitude, on the strength of these three graces" Augustine from (De doctrina Christiana Book I, Ch. 39 "He who is mature in faith hope and love, needs Scripture no longer").

I am sure that is a wild thought to some. But, many of us have so much scripture in memory that we could probably do fine without them if the situation ever arose where we had no access.

Augustine? He was a 4th-5th Century Christian theologian, right? That was a long, long time before scriptures were mass produced and were available to common people.

There was likely a practical reason why he said that, the masses couldn't possess a copy anyway and most people likely couldn't read it if they did possess it.

However...for those who actually follow Jesus' teachings, it is important to understand that Jesus did NOT issue a book of Scripture for people to study. He issued -two- commandments for people to follow. And they were short and succinct.

As a follow-up to that final statement of Augustine you quoted, -I- think it is important to remember Paul's discussion on the issue of faith, hope and love...."The best of the three is love."

Today, far too many Christians order those three things differently than Paul did. They actually think the words are listed in the order of importance.

 

[public hermit]

Augustine? He was a 4th-5th Century Christian theologian, right? That was a long, long time before scriptures were mass produced and were available to common people.

There was likely a practical reason why he said that, the masses couldn't possess a copy anyway and most people likely couldn't read it if they did possess it.

However...for those who actually follow Jesus' teachings, it is important to understand that Jesus did NOT issue a book of Scripture for people to study. He issued -two- commandments for people to follow. And they were short and succinct.

As a follow-up to that final statement of Augustine you quoted, -I- think it is important to remember Paul's discussion on the issue of faith, hope and love...."The best of the three is love."

Today, far too many Christians order those three things differently than Paul did. They actually think the words are listed in the order of importance.

I appreciate your remarks. I posted the Augustine quote in reference to the OP. I take it "Bring Your Bible to School Day" is a way of making a point. We might assume it is a celebration of religious freedom. But, I tend to doubt that.

Per the OP article the point is, "Bringing their personal Bibles to school and initiating conversations about how God’s love has changed their lives." So, it is not about religious freedom, but about a Christian's freedom to proselytize in school. As a Christian, I have no issue with Christians sharing their faith. But I am certain some Christians would be very uncomfortable with a similar day for others to share their respective faith with their children. I mean, do Christian parents want their children to be proselytized by a Muslim or a Hindu? I doubt it.

Either we allow every school age child to have a day to share their faith (whatever that faith might be) openly and honestly at school, or we don't allow anyone to have a special faith day. Is there a different way? I am open to suggestions.

I was hoping the Augustine quote would remind us of a simple fact about our faith. We can carry a bible and talk about our faith all we want to, but the true witness of our faith will be in how we live it out, especially in relation to those who don't share that same faith. If we seek privileges (rights?) for ourselves that we are unwilling to extend to others, what does that say about our faith, our love?

 

[Desk trauma]

Jim Daly: It’s Bring Your Bible to School Day – A celebration of religious freedom and God’s love

I've got no issue with this; however, I have to wonder how these same folks would react to "Bring your Quran to School Day".

This came to my attention via facebook memes posted by the same people who posted ones demanding that people be disqualified from holding office due to being muslim, unironically demanding that people abide by the constitution in the same post, so in a number of cases I don't have to wonder.

 

[zephcom]

I appreciate your remarks. I posted the Augustine quote in reference to the OP. I take it "Bring Your Bible to School Day" is a way of making a point. We might assume it is a celebration of religious freedom. But, I tend to doubt that.

Per the OP article the point is, "Bringing their personal Bibles to school and initiating conversations about how God’s love has changed their lives." So, it is not about religious freedom, but about a Christian's freedom to proselytize in school. As a Christian, I have no issue with Christians sharing their faith. But I am certain some Christians would be very uncomfortable with a similar day for others to share their respective faith with their children. I mean, do Christian parents want their children to be proselytized by a Muslim or a Hindu? I doubt it.

Either we allow every school age child to have a day to share their faith (whatever that faith might be) openly and honestly at school, or we don't allow anyone to have a special faith day. Is there a different way? I am open to suggestions.

I was hoping the Augustine quote would reminds us of a simple fact about our faith. We can carry a bible and talk about our faith all we want to, but the true witness of our faith will be in how we live it out, especially in relation to those who don't share that same faith. If we seek privileges (rights?) for ourselves that we are unwilling to extend to others, what does that say about our faith, our love?

I agree with what you say. I think that how people live their lives is the most powerful testimony to their spiritual beliefs. I recall reading someplace that Justin Martyr is reported to have said that after watching Christian after Christian displaying absolute peace while facing death on the Colosseum floor, he felt compelled to learn about the faith which gave them such peace at the time of their death.

Far too many Christians today think they can threaten, brow beat, trick or otherwise coerce non-Christians into joining their religion when the most powerful tool they have is simply living the life Jesus both demonstrated and taught.

The joy of living the life of self-sacrificing love for everyone whether they deserve it or not is the only thing necessary for a Christian to testify to the power of God's Love for all.

As Paul also said, "So, no matter what I say, what I believe, and what I do, I’m bankrupt without love." A whole lot of Christians are bankrupt in today's world.

 

[Dave-W]

Per the OP article the point is, "Bringing their personal Bibles to school and initiating conversations about how God’s love has changed their lives." So, it is not about religious freedom, but about a Christian's freedom to proselytize in school.

Religious freedom is about being able to observe and do the precepts of one's religion without hindrance. A major precept of Christianity is to spread the Gospel.
Mark 16.
Matt 28

I was hoping the Augustine quote would remind us of a simple fact about our faith. We can carry a bible and talk about our faith all we want to, but the true witness of our faith will be in how we live it out, especially in relation to those who don't share that same faith. If we seek privileges (rights?) for ourselves that we are unwilling to extend to others, what does that say about our faith, our love?

Perhaps you quoted the wrong church father. I believe it was St Francis of Asisi who said "Preach the gospel at all times. Use words only if you have to."

 

[Tanj]

Religious freedom is about being able to observe and do the precepts of one's religion without hindrance.

No, it isn't.
Religious freedom is about being able to observe and do the precepts of one's religion without hindrance to the point it does not infringe on other people.

Your right to swing your fist ends at the tip of my nose.

A major precept of Christianity is to spread the Gospel.

Irrelevant. A major precept of Islam is to publicly blast out the call to prayer every few hours.

 

[jayem]

I brought a copy of Dianetics to school. I think I was a junior in high school. I'd heard about Scientology on the radio. Even at age 16, I was already very skeptical of all religions. And this "church" sounded especially weird. But when I found a copy of Hubbard's book at a used book shop, I thought it might be worth a dollar to learn what all the hoopla was about. I was going to start reading it during study hall. I couldn't make it past page 3. It was an unintelligible muddle of pseudo-intellectual jibber jabber about "engrams," and other supposedly toxic mental states. One of the few books I can honestly say is unreadable. And I wasted a dollar. Which in 1967, was probably equivalent to $8 today.

 

[keith99]

Religious freedom is about being able to observe and do the precepts of one's religion without hindrance. A major precept of Christianity is to spread the Gospel.
Mark 16.
Matt 28


Perhaps you quoted the wrong church father. I believe it was St Francis of Asisi who said "Preach the gospel at all times. Use words only if you have to."

And a major precept of many native American religions involves peyote or other drug use. Yet there has never been a bring your peyote to school day.

Personally I am getting tired of Christians invading my peace by trying to spread their faith by knocking on my door. Some day I'll cease being polite and I'd sure those same Christians will insist that I am evil.

 

[MissRowy]

Personally I am getting tired of Christians invading my peace by trying to spread their faith by knocking on my door. Some day I'll cease being polite and I'd sure those same Christians will insist that I am evil.

I left the Campus Bible Ministries at uni for the same reasons...they were trying to push Christianity onto people who did not want it. Also I found them very one-sided on certain issues.
Also I am over being polite. If they try to push their religion onto me they'll meet about 20kg of wood in their face

 

[Desk trauma]

Also I am over being polite. If they try to push their religion onto me they'll meet about 20kg of wood in their face

Going about daily life with a fencepost in your kit must build some serious muscle mass.