BREAKING NEWS Hamas fire rockets into Israel

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Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said that “no electricity, no food, no water, no fuel”...
I don't speak Hebrew so I don't know what he said, but many sources (Wall Street Journal, Business Insider, Telegraph UK for example) do not have him saying "no water".
 
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The question is, do you make the same kind of righteous declaration when it comes to Israel killing civilians?
If you watched any of the news reports from Gaza, you would see that Hamas rockets were sent from densly populated areas. They do that because they want civilians to die in any Israeli retribution.

The same happened in the past from Lebanon. Missiles were sent from tower blocks.
 
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Sure. Mankind is not very creative in their ways. Same thing, different faces
I see so just like Rome Israel has conquered the region and expanded it into world wide empire rules by emperors. They have expanded into all the neighboring countries and moved into Europe and Africa. They have put Palestinians into lions dens, held gladiator games, crucified the Palestinians, and rules Palestine with an iron fist.

Except they haven't done any of these things. With that kind of statement that Israel is like Rome it's no wonder you are against them. I would be too if they were. Except they aren't. Why, even when they were attacked and not only beat back their enemies they took land from their enemies and in the interest of peace they gave it back. I don't know man, I have no idea where you got your Rome/Israel comparison.
 
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Nothing to do with his plan, which of course is in motion. But the foreigners/outsiders who came and still come to the new misnamed Israel because it used to be Judah, brought with them a bad influence differing from the life of the resident Jews and Arabs who already lived there in peace. It's like the Babylonian influence of the Hebrew people at one time and the problems it caused. This was the point of the Jewish journalist. These too will have to repent and find their way back to God. They are still in punishment phase.
How do you know it's not in God's plan?
 
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Israel’s military has called up 300,000 members of its reserve force over the past 48 hours, the largest mobilization in such a short period since the country was founded, Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari, the chief military spokesman said on Monday.

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More than 800 Israelis have been killed so far, according to officials, at least 85 of them soldiers.

Most Jewish 18-year-olds are drafted for compulsory military service in a country of 10 million people, and many continue to volunteer for reserve duty into middle age. That means that most families would have someone, or know someone, taking part in the war.

 
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How is that any different from the ridiculous justifications that Putin gives for taking Ukraine? Both are ethnonationalist mythologies.

Claims like that simply have no purchase under international law.

Many Palestinian people are descended from the indigenous people of the region, going back for thousands of years. They are not merely Arabs. Language fluency is not the same as ethnicity.
Umm... Except Israel didn't send in an army and take the land in 1947. It was given to them.

Man you guys with your analogies. Israel is Rome, Israel is like Russia. I just have to shake my head.
 
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For some historical context...

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Meanwhile, Israel offers Muslims a voice in the Knesset and allows them to hold judicial positions in Israel.

It's pretty clear which side wants to "get rid of" the other vs. which side is "trying to make the best of a tough situation"

When given the option, Muslim countries opt to run the Jews "out of town", Jews offer to give Muslims a voice in their government.


To quote Bill Maher, if the woke BDS types had to spend a week in the Palestinian region, they'd be running for Tel Aviv begging them to take them in

Just curious - if the same scenario were to play out here, you'd support it?
Suppose immigrants coming over the southern border bought property.. word got out and more came and bought property, then they were to declare that portion of Texas as independent land for a new nation or the nation they came from... you're okay with that?
If the Texans got upset, that'd be a 'bad decision'?
Excuse me but what country existed there with a Palestinian government?
 
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Umm... Except Israel didn't send in an army and take the land in 1947. It was given to them.
It was not. No plan or 'handoff' was ever put into action. The British left. Ben-Gurion (the Executive Head of the World Zionist Organization and Chairman of the Jewish Agency for Palestine) declared the establishment of Israel. Ultimately, the borders were decided by gunfire.
 
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The Palestinian criminal system teaches children hatred and terrorizes people who want to live and let live.
Of course they do. The whole world is full of extreme people who take the self interest behind the will of man and go ballistic with it because they don't understand nor want to, the concept of loving neighbour as self. Feral humans with a failed hybrid nature. Destined to never be domesticated and find a home in the new Kingdom once the pet shop is closed forever.
 
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Israel is *better* than "Palestine", and the aspirations of the Israelis is something I support, whereas the aspirations of the Palestinians is more like something despicable.
I think part of the problem is many have never been in a position of victims of oppression to understand what that does to human nature.
 
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Somebody got their juices flowing for a world war?
Agreed - it does look like Hamas is working things in that direction.
Still cannot believe some people support these evil terrorist's acts.
 
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Anybody can be pushed over the edge.. especially when others start encroaching on what territory they have left. Imagine the response of outsiders moved in with dozers and built condos for outsiders. As was reported, both sides all along created these hostilities.
What are you talking about? Palestine doesn't own the territory. A lot of the territory was owned fair and square. And territory that was taken was taken due to the attacks.
Which creates an endless cycle. Useless if the intent was ever to resolve. Not God's will to repeat the cycles but no one listens to Him.

No, it is not God's will that a cycle keeps repeating. But God is a God of justice. And when a crime has been committed justice must be served. When PALESTINIANS attack then land was taken to serve justice and create self defense barriers.

There is a criminal in the case and criminal pays for the crime. It's called justice. The Palestinians were already over the edge. And it has been this way since Israel was granted the Israeli land and the Arabs went crazy and tried to destroy them.

This was and has always been an Arabic problem. Leave Israel alone and they'll leave you alone.

It's perfectly just to make people pay the penalty for their crimes. It's pretty crappy to stab someone in the neck and then get angry when they fight back. Then start pointing fingers at them and blame them when they beat you up for it.
 
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