Boycotting Blindside =/

[foo-oswald]

Its what they stand for to me. I have no doubt on them going to heaven its not that. But its like this to me. As wishy washy they are on their lyrics (Talking Directly on God) and them not saying ANYTHING about God at their shows (That I have heard) it makes me wonder if they are just "cashing in" on the Christian market.


IF I knew they had said a lot about God in their lyrics and talked to people in their shows about God. I would feel a lot less uneasy about this whole thing.

No, man. You're not getting it. If they were "cashing in" on the "Christian market", they'd be called Third Day, and only play at churches.

A Christian band being added to a secular tour doesn't automatically mean they should start speaking Christianese to the audience between songs. There's more to introducing people to Jesus than that...

 

[philN]

Its like this guys...If I knew you were a servant of Christ and I saw you drinking or smoking or w/e I would think about how serous you were about Christ. Same difference here.

Why? Christ himself drank. What makes you think that someone who drinks is not serious about Christ. Smoking is a little bit different, but going back before the health risks were known famous Christians like Spurgeon and Lewis both lit up on a frequent basis. Were they not taking their relationship with Christ seriously, or were they just not adhering to your personal convictions?

If they say they are of God, they will not do things that are Questionable. If you don't think its questionable just look around at how many people question this very thing

Does the fact that people question something make it wrong. Many people question christianity, and yet, I assume that you believe it to be right. Lots of Christians question whether drinking is okay, and yet Jesus Christ turned water to wine and instituted a sacriment based on the drinking of wine. Just because people question something does not make it true or false, it just means that people question it. And as I said before, the things that Jesus did and said were considered questionable in his day. I think that is reason enough to get rid of this notion that anything that is questionable should not be listened to.

 

[Sketcher]

No, man. You're not getting it. If they were "cashing in" on the "Christian market", they'd be called Third Day, and only play at churches.

Change our sound so that we can appeal to the most people and tell them what they want to hear? Brilliant!

I'm not judging Third Day at all, but if a band wanted to cash in on the Christian market that would honestly be the smartest move. CCM style bands, ashamedly, are the most profitable. And you don't have to be original either, you can just rehash some lyrics because it's all the same anyway.

 

[wgjones3]

I know a lot of Christians who do the right things, they say the right things, they never cuss, they never smoke, they never drink--they live the perfect Christianese life on the outside. And they do nothing for the Kingdom except sit around and point fingers at other Christians and think of reasons to puff out their chest at their own self-righteousness.

And I also know Christians who cuss, who smoke, who have tattoos, who may even crack open a beer every now and then, and you know what they're out doing? They're out with their biker friends winning them to Christ, inviting them to church and praying with them.

You know what? It’s not for me to say the first one is any better or worse than the second one. It’s not for me to point fingers at one and uphold the actions of the other. We’re all human, we all have faults, and we all do things that somebody else isn’t going to like. I’ve found the best thing to do is pray about it and let God lead you. In the case of the band, I’d say it was an error in judgment between them (an artist may have a right to expression, but they also need to take their audience into account) and the record label (who ultimately has the yay/nay say). The CCM market just doesn’t tolerate gray area--as proven by this thread. That doesn’t mean the band or the record label is morally corrupt, just that somebody made a bad business decision.

I guess I’ve just got too much wrong with me to worry about them, but I don’t listen to their music in the first place and I guess if I did, I might have a different opinion (but I somehow doubt it).

 

[mnmcandiez]

Oh wow they said damned! You know get real its a word.

 

[Macewindu77815]

No, man. You're not getting it. If they were "cashing in" on the "Christian market", they'd be called Third Day, and only play at churches.

A Christian band being added to a secular tour doesn't automatically mean they should start speaking Christianese to the audience between songs. There's more to introducing people to Jesus than that...

Is this an insult to Third Day? Anyway, I see nothing wrong with the song...I mean damned is in the Bible...

 

[foo-oswald]

Is this an insult to Third Day? Anyway, I see nothing wrong with the song...I mean damned is in the Bible...

Nah, man. It's not an insult to 3rd Day. I actually thought about you when I was posting this and considered rephrasing, but, I decided that you'd be able to figure out what I was saying and left it "as-is"...

I merely used them to make a point about "cashing in" on the "Christian market"...

 

[Paladin21]

Why? Christ himself drank. What makes you think that someone who drinks is not serious about Christ. Smoking is a little bit different, but going back before the health risks were known famous Christians like Spurgeon and Lewis both lit up on a frequent basis. Were they not taking their relationship with Christ seriously, or were they just not adhering to your personal convictions?


I would like to see proof of this. You know what is funny that my uncle is a missionary oversea's and he has seen many people saved. His last time he was there me and him were talking and he had stated that. Once people over there get saved they don't even speak english or know our culture. However one of the first things they do is take an oath not to touch anything with achool in it. Now we go back to the US where we try to find ways out of not drinking.


And I also know Christians who cuss, who smoke, who have tattoos, who may even crack open a beer every now and then, and you know what they're out doing? They're out with their biker friends winning them to Christ, inviting them to church and praying with them.

This is another story, I know plenty of people like this and I have nothing against them other then their commitment. IF you are SOLD OUT to Christ these things will not be present in your life. Its not legalism its TRUTH. Are those people saved? YES! Are they Going to heaven YES! But the people who actually keep their life pure CAN and WILL be used by God more sometimes.

Its like this...the people who try to live their life right all the time by not doing these things get stuck on prefecting themselves. However when it comes to God asking them to do something. You are right they sit on their butt's sometimes...however the person who knows they are in-perfect CAN be used more sometimes.

Moral of the story. You cannot be saved and live perfectly. However most be settle on this and except the "Thorn in their side" or I will accept this small sin in my life becuase I God will forgive or w/e.

 

[foo-oswald]

I would like to see proof of this. You know what is funny that my uncle is a missionary oversea's and he has seen many people saved. His last time he was there me and him were talking and he had stated that. Once people over there get saved they don't even speak english or know our culture. However one of the first things they do is take an oath not to touch anything with achool in it. Now we go back to the US where we try to find ways out of not drinking.

Read Luke Chapter 7. Then give your "proof" that no Christian should touch alcohol. The book of Proverbs rails against being a drunkard, not against the consumption of alcohol. For crying out loud, Jesus' first miracle was turning water into wine.

IF you are SOLD OUT to Christ these things will not be present in your life. Its not legalism its TRUTH.

Who's truth? Yours? Where can we find this in Scripture?!?!?

...however the person who knows they are in-perfect CAN be used more sometimes.

What follower of Christ doesn't know they're imperfect? Do you think Billy Graham doesn't know he's imperfect? That's the whole point of God's grace...

 

[chris_J_N]

oh come on!!! blindside is one of the best christain band witnesses out there. have you seen any of their concerts. they have gained incredable favor with the secular world and because of this they are a HUGE witness.

 

[Paladin21]

I have not heard them say anything about God in their last concert.

Read Luke Chapter 7. Then give your "proof" that no Christian should touch alcohol. The book of Proverbs rails against being a drunkard, not against the consumption of alcohol. For crying out loud, Jesus' first miracle was turning water into wine.


Im not getting into this to much cuz its a different debate.

But here is one...

Wine is a mocker and beer a brawler; whoever is led astray by them is not wise.

Who's truth? Yours? Where can we find this in Scripture?!?!?

You really don't want me to dig up bible on this do you? Come on Christ tells us to live his life like him not as close to the line as we can. I don't even need to talk about this one.

 

[WintarNaht]

This really makes me angry. Why are we fighting against our brothers in Christ?
Look, Blindside is a Christian Band. The members of Blindside are Christians. If they put the word, "damned" in their song, they must have a reason for it. And they do. It is NOT a bad word used in the intended context.
This same sort of thing happened to Project 86 a few months ago.
WHY DOES THIS ALWAYS HAPPEN TO THE HARD ROCK AND METAL BANDS?
Because they are controversial. Why can't the Christian public/media get it through their thick sculls, that they are no different than us????
Sure, they play a kind of music that most of us can't play, but that means that they are talented, special. I am proud to say, that I will ALWAYS be a supporter of hard Christian music, UNTIL I have hard evidence against the given band.
Ok, I guess thats all my temper had to say.

 

[chris_J_N]

I have not heard them say anything about God in their last concert.

ummmmm ok well you gotta dig deeper than if they said God in their concert or not. for example did they mention satan????????

not to be mean but your kinda narrow minded and miss the big picture

 

[foo-oswald]

You really don't want me to dig up bible on this do you? Come on Christ tells us to live his life like him not as close to the line as we can. I don't even need to talk about this one.

My point exactly. Jesus does want us to pattern our life after him. Where and when did he say or do anything to encourage people to abstain from any alcohol?

So, yes, please "dig up bible"...

Wine is a mocker and beer a brawler; whoever is led astray by them is not wise.

Once again, you are proving my point. That verse deals with being "led astray" by alcohol. Sound like a description of alcoholism to you? Does to me. It's telling us not to be ruled by alcohol, not to abstain from it. Why is this so hard to grasp?!?!?

 

[Macewindu77815]

Nah, man. It's not an insult to 3rd Day. I actually thought about you when I was posting this and considered rephrasing, but, I decided that you'd be able to figure out what I was saying and left it "as-is"...

I merely used them to make a point about "cashing in" on the "Christian market"...

Ok I didn't think so...just making sure though...got to watch out for my boys!

 

[MoreInSorrow]

Forgive me in advance, but I didn't bother reading all this thread. So this is probably a repeat.

It's a word, dude. Boycott them if you don't like the fact that they say "damned" in a song. Whatever. It's not going to change my mind. I love the band, plan on seeing them this summer, and think they're a great group of guys, and great musicians.

As a sidenote, it should also be noted that last summer, after their tour, Christian (the lyricist) and his wife went on a missions trip to Africa. So I don't think a word is gonna send him to hell. Get over it bro. It's not as big a deal as Christendom makes it out to be.

 

[mnmcandiez]

Maybe in Sweden damned isnt what we consider a "bad" word. But really have you never cussed in your life?

 

[JC 101 FM]

**NOTE: It was brought to my attention after writing this review that the word "damned" is used at the end of the band's song "Hooray, It's L.A.," featuring Billy Corgan. The lyric is written in the CD jacket as such... "As it's a damned cold night now." The band has explained that the word was not intended as used in an offensive or profane way, but in a Biblical sense -- the night was "damned" (a.k.a. "condemned"). It's a legitimate use of the word, and therefore not profane.

Makes me feel a bit better but still does not clear it for me. I question their morals when they say things like this. "It was not intended" ok great thats cool thanks for clearing that up. But didn't that grab you as a little wrong when you put it down.

I have often told my friends that if they swore in front of me I would be wondering...but if they actualy take the time to write/publish it...it makes me wonder the more.

The fact still remains that they could have chose words that were not QUESTIONABLE, but did not...which makes me question them.

Are they Christians...most likely, do they have good morals? Thats a toss up.

Twisted,

I don't judge them, and I feel sorry for them and pray for them often. Do you really think I enjoy not listening to them? I liked them sense their first stuff.

What are you trying to prove? It's people like you who get the rest of us stereotyped.

 

[mnmcandiez]

What are you trying to prove? It's people like you who get the rest of us stereotyped.

word

 

[Phil413]

Forgive me in advance, but I didn't bother reading all this thread. So this is probably a repeat.

It's a word, dude. Boycott them if you don't like the fact that they say "damned" in a song. Whatever. It's not going to change my mind. I love the band, plan on seeing them this summer, and think they're a great group of guys, and great musicians.

As a sidenote, it should also be noted that last summer, after their tour, Christian (the lyricist) and his wife went on a missions trip to Africa. So I don't think a word is gonna send him to hell. Get over it bro. It's not as big a deal as Christendom makes it out to be.

Amen