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Hey this has happend to me for awhile but I just wanted to see some peoples OP's

I have long sense boycotted blindside since their lyrics in "Hooray its LA" whats your thought on that song. I wanted to see from a Christain prospective since I got flamed on their board laff.
 

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My spirit is freezing to ice in this heat

Could you turn around and say
Hooray, it's a beautiful day L.A.
(yeah come on)
But now it's time
To pack your bags and go
Hooray it's a beautiful day L.A.
But I think I'll be gone today

And it's a...
(damned cold night now)
And it's a...
(damned cold night now)
My spirit is freezing to ice in this heat

Could you turn around and say
Hooray, it's a beautiful day L.A.
(yeah come on)
But now it's time
To pack your bags and go
Hooray it's a beautiful day L.A.
But I think I'll be gone today
 
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Sorry bro not here to shove my feelings down your throat but doesn't that grab you a little wrong? A band that says they are Christians publishing something that "Grey area" on their Cd's?

Man I love their sound but I can't listen to them knowing they would comprise that much on their morals.
 
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[font=Times New Roman, Times, serif]it's a damned cold night now." The band has explained that the word was not intended as used in an offensive or profane way, but in a Biblical sense -- the night was "damned" (a.k.a. "condemned"). It's a legitimate use of the word, and therefore not profane.[/font]

http://www.jesusfreakhideout.com/cdreviews/AboutABurningFire.asp

"damned cold night" - NOT - "damn cold night" -- they aren't cursing the night, they are saying that the night was condemned! :)
 
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In which case, that may be proper use of the word.

But don't say "they're not Christians" or whatever. Because I know I'm a Christian and I swear all the time. I'm not saying it's right, but Christians are forgiven, not perfect.

If it's really that big a deal, spend the time and energy pray for them rather than speaking against them. They might actually change if you do that! :doh:
 
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**NOTE: It was brought to my attention after writing this review that the word "damned" is used at the end of the band's song "Hooray, It's L.A.," featuring Billy Corgan. The lyric is written in the CD jacket as such... "As it's a damned cold night now." The band has explained that the word was not intended as used in an offensive or profane way, but in a Biblical sense -- the night was "damned" (a.k.a. "condemned"). It's a legitimate use of the word, and therefore not profane.

Makes me feel a bit better but still does not clear it for me. I question their morals when they say things like this. "It was not intended" ok great thats cool thanks for clearing that up. But didn't that grab you as a little wrong when you put it down.

I have often told my friends that if they swore in front of me I would be wondering...but if they actualy take the time to write/publish it...it makes me wonder the more.

The fact still remains that they could have chose words that were not QUESTIONABLE, but did not...which makes me question them.

Are they Christians...most likely, do they have good morals? Thats a toss up.

Twisted,

I don't judge them, and I feel sorry for them and pray for them often. Do you really think I enjoy not listening to them? I liked them sense their first stuff.
 
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Its what they stand for to me. I have no doubt on them going to heaven its not that. But its like this to me. As wishy washy they are on their lyrics (Talking Directly on God) and them not saying ANYTHING about God at their shows (That I have heard) it makes me wonder if they are just "cashing in" on the Christian market.


IF I knew they had said a lot about God in their lyrics and talked to people in their shows about God. I would feel a lot less uneasy about this whole thing.
 
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I wonder if people actually think that it is more a (Christian) band's responsibility to spread the Gospel than it is for any other Christian.
I don't go to my school's theatre stage and start yelling Scripture at people, telling them to accept God or go to hell, or tell them Jesus loves them from 60 feet away. Why do people expect (Christian) bands to do that?
 
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So now you're after their lyrics as a whole? As a whole, they really make me think about my relationship with God and how He views me sometimes. God is in the lyrics, and is presented in a very Christian way. The lost can easily see that, and if He draws them using those lyrics, then that's what happens.

Besides, some Christians aren't gifted or called to do sermonettes at shows. Mechadise table interaction is where some of these bands do the bulk of their ministry work.
 
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Paladin21 said:
**NOTE: It was brought to my attention after writing this review that the word "damned" is used at the end of the band's song "Hooray, It's L.A.," featuring Billy Corgan. The lyric is written in the CD jacket as such... "As it's a damned cold night now." The band has explained that the word was not intended as used in an offensive or profane way, but in a Biblical sense -- the night was "damned" (a.k.a. "condemned"). It's a legitimate use of the word, and therefore not profane.

Makes me feel a bit better but still does not clear it for me. I question their morals when they say things like this. "It was not intended" ok great thats cool thanks for clearing that up. But didn't that grab you as a little wrong when you put it down.
No. Perhaps you have different convictions when it comes to language than they do. They are using the word in it's proper context. C.S. Lewis uses it in a similar context; most importantly the Bible uses it in a similar context. If you have a conviction about listening to it, then don't listen to it, but it's not your place to enforce an extrabiblical rule as a universal morality for all christians.

I have often told my friends that if they swore in front of me I would be wondering...but if they actualy take the time to write/publish it...it makes me wonder the more.
Where in the Bible does it say that certain words are good and certain words are bad? Language is amoral. It is like a chair. A chair is not good or evil. But if I pick up a chair in an angry stupor and throw it at my friend, then I have used the chair to sin. It is the sin that is wrong, not the chair. So it is with language. If a Christian does not have convictions about using certain language and they are not being a stumbling block to others, then why would it be wrong for them to say a word that best expresses how they feel about something? Is it any better to use a euphemism that means the same thing as the other word? I would think that it is the intent and mindset behind the words that are important.

The fact still remains that they could have chose words that were not QUESTIONABLE, but did not...which makes me question them.
Jesus said some things that were controversial too in his day. The pharisees were highly respected church leaders and he called them a "brood of vipers". That's about as controversial as it gets. That was probably pretty questionable in that time, but He was right to do it. Paul says some things that were probably questionable: namely that he would rather be castrated than circumsized into the old law, and he also used the Greek equivalent of our "s-word" in Philippians.

Are they Christians...most likely, do they have good morals? Thats a toss up.
The Bible is what morality is based on, not the personal convictions of some people. Some people can't drink without being tempted; that doesn't mean that no Christian should ever drink, it just means that people have different convictions.

I don't judge them, and I feel sorry for them and pray for them often. Do you really think I enjoy not listening to them? I liked them sense their first stuff
Well, if you stop listening to them, then you obviously think that they are doing something wrong. Thus, you are imposing your convictions on them. There is a difference between personal conviction and sin. If listening to them is going to cause you to sin, then by all means don't listen to them, but otherwise, there is absolutely nothing wrong with listening to them.
 
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Its what they stand for to me. I have no doubt on them going to heaven its not that. But its like this to me. As wishy washy they are on their lyrics (Talking Directly on God) and them not saying ANYTHING about God at their shows (That I have heard) it makes me wonder if they are just "cashing in" on the Christian market.


IF I knew they had said a lot about God in their lyrics and talked to people in their shows about God. I would feel a lot less uneasy about this whole thing.
I think them living out their faith on tour and glorifying God with the musical gifts that he has given them is a much better witness than throwing out a few token verses at shows or in their lyrics.

Your emphasis on the sacred being elevated over the secular sounds more like Greek philosophy than the Bible.
 
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I wonder if people actually think that it is more a (Christian) band's responsibility to spread the Gospel than it is for any other Christian.
I don't go to my school's theatre stage and start yelling Scripture at people, telling them to accept God or go to hell, or tell them Jesus loves them from 60 feet away. Why do people expect (Christian) bands to do that?

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to JesusWasn'tWhite again.
 
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I don't judge them, and I feel sorry for them and pray for them often. Do you really think I enjoy not listening to them? I liked them sense their first stuff.

Why do you feel sorry for them? If they make the claim to be followers of Christ, why should anyone doubt that? When will people realize that issues like this are not gonna cause a non-believer to say, "What?!?!?!? A Christian rock band used the word damned in a song?!?!?!? Well, then, this Jesus just ain't for me!!!"

Give me a break... :sick:
 
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Its what they stand for to me. I have no doubt on them going to heaven its not that. But its like this to me. As wishy washy they are on their lyrics (Talking Directly on God) and them not saying ANYTHING about God at their shows (That I have heard) it makes me wonder if they are just "cashing in" on the Christian market.


IF I knew they had said a lot about God in their lyrics and talked to people in their shows about God. I would feel a lot less uneasy about this whole thing.

Just if they weren't christian..why would they say they are? Lots of christian bands don't get as popular as secular.
 
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Hmmm maybe you guys are as thick headed as me lol.

Is the word bad?? NOOOOOOOOO. I never said the word was bad.

Its like this guys...If I knew you were a servant of Christ and I saw you drinking or smoking or w/e I would think about how serous you were about Christ. Same difference here.

If they say they are of God, they will not do things that are Questionable. If you don't think its questionable just look around at how many people question this very thing.
 
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