• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

Boxer Tommy Morrison dies of AIDS, regrets permissive lifestyle

Chrystal-J

The one who stands firm to the end will be saved.
Site Supporter
Oct 19, 2004
13,499
6,806
Detroit
✟953,824.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Widowed
Politics
US-Others
"I lived a permissive, fast and reckless lifestyle," said the 27-year-old Morrison, his voice halting at times. "I hope I can serve as a warning that living this lifestyle can really lead to only one thing and that's misery. ... I've never been so stupid in my life. I thought I was bulletproof and I'm not."


Former heavyweight boxing champion Tommy Morrison dies at 44 - latimes.com
 

MikeK

Traditionalist Catholic
Feb 4, 2004
32,104
5,649
Wisconsin
✟98,321.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
May he rest in Christ's Peace.

That said, his name does not deserve to be mentioned with the greats of the sport. He wasn't a good enough fighter to be remembered for his skills in the ring. He wasn't the dominating athelete that Arthur Ashe or Greg Louganis was. He won his title from a nearly-senior citizen at a particularily weak point in the sport's history (one that it hasn't fully recovered from and might never recover from, if the different Organisations and Commisions cannot get together for the good of the sport and if bloodthirsty monsters keep tuning into MMA savagry instead of legitimate sport. If not for Rocky V (which was an awful movie, especially when contrasted with the 1st which was a true work of art) nobody would know who this guy was.
 
Upvote 0

Chrystal-J

The one who stands firm to the end will be saved.
Site Supporter
Oct 19, 2004
13,499
6,806
Detroit
✟953,824.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Widowed
Politics
US-Others
It's irresponsible to state cause of death when it hasn't been determined yet.

He died from complications of AIDs. He had it for years.
 
Upvote 0

Chrystal-J

The one who stands firm to the end will be saved.
Site Supporter
Oct 19, 2004
13,499
6,806
Detroit
✟953,824.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Widowed
Politics
US-Others
May he rest in Christ's Peace.

If not for Rocky V (which was an awful movie, especially when contrasted with the 1st which was a true work of art) nobody would know who this guy was.

I remember him from the Rocky movie. It's too bad his reckless behavior made him lose so much. Not just the sexual behavior, but his behavior in general.
 
Upvote 0

eastcoast_bsc

Veteran
Mar 29, 2005
19,296
10,782
Boston
✟394,552.00
Faith
Christian
May he rest in Christ's Peace.

That said, his name does not deserve to be mentioned with the greats of the sport. He wasn't a good enough fighter to be remembered for his skills in the ring. He wasn't the dominating athelete that Arthur Ashe or Greg Louganis was. He won his title from a nearly-senior citizen at a particularily weak point in the sport's history (one that it hasn't fully recovered from and might never recover from, if the different Organisations and Commisions cannot get together for the good of the sport and if bloodthirsty monsters keep tuning into MMA savagry instead of legitimate sport. If not for Rocky V (which was an awful movie, especially when contrasted with the 1st which was a true work of art) nobody would know who this guy was.


I knew of Tommy Morrison. I have always been an avid boxing fan. Not a great fighter but well known in the boxing community.
 
Upvote 0

WarriorAngel

I close my eyes and see you smile
Site Supporter
Apr 11, 2005
73,949
10,059
United States Pennsylvania
Visit site
✟596,642.00
Country
United States
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Private
"I lived a permissive, fast and reckless lifestyle," said the 27-year-old Morrison, his voice halting at times. "I hope I can serve as a warning that living this lifestyle can really lead to only one thing and that's misery. ... I've never been so stupid in my life. I thought I was bulletproof and I'm not."


Former heavyweight boxing champion Tommy Morrison dies at 44 - latimes.com
:crossrc:

....He is not alone - in that so many people now - gamble with their lives.
May the Lord grant him peace.
 
Upvote 0

WarriorAngel

I close my eyes and see you smile
Site Supporter
Apr 11, 2005
73,949
10,059
United States Pennsylvania
Visit site
✟596,642.00
Country
United States
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Private
I knew of Tommy Morrison. I have always been an avid boxing fan. Not a great fighter but well known in the boxing community.
I have never followed boxing - ever. But i have heard of his name.
 
Upvote 0

MikeK

Traditionalist Catholic
Feb 4, 2004
32,104
5,649
Wisconsin
✟98,321.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
I have never followed boxing - ever. But i have heard of his name.

Of course you have. He was in a movie and has been in the news on and off for a decade because of his HIV infection and subsequent lies about it. You haven't heard of anything about Tommy the fighter since he beat 106 year-old Geaorge Foreman....mostly because there was never any reason to talk about him. His career was rather brief with almost all of his fights in the 1990s - a decade dominated by the fall of Mike Tyson and the rise of Riddick Bowe, Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis.

Maybe this bum felt remorse on his deathbed, but as recently as 5 or 6 years ago he was trying to get back into boxing, claiming alternately that he never had HIV in the first place and that a rival promoter rigged a blood test and that HIV was a government invention and that the Feds were trying to keep him down.
 
Upvote 0

Stone Butterfly

Well-Known Member
Aug 18, 2013
542
29
Godly spirit having a human experience
✟852.00
Faith
Nazarene
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Democrat
It's irresponsible to state cause of death when it hasn't been determined yet.
If you studied what AIDS is you would learn that once someone has AIDS whatever they die from, aside from outside catastrophe like a car accident, being shot, etc..., the cause of death is AIDS related complication.

What is irresponsible is judging people out of your own ignorance of Tommy's condition prior to this report.


Tommy Morrison Talks about Hiv Diagnosis and Boxing Comeback - YouTube

God rest your soul Tommy. I use to watch him fight.Terribly sad. :(
 
Upvote 0

Chrystal-J

The one who stands firm to the end will be saved.
Site Supporter
Oct 19, 2004
13,499
6,806
Detroit
✟953,824.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Widowed
Politics
US-Others
:crossrc:

....He is not alone - in that so many people now - gamble with their lives.
May the Lord grant him peace.

I agree. I think some don't worry about the consequences until it's too late.
 
Upvote 0

Chrystal-J

The one who stands firm to the end will be saved.
Site Supporter
Oct 19, 2004
13,499
6,806
Detroit
✟953,824.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Widowed
Politics
US-Others
If you studied what AIDS is you would learn that once someone has AIDS whatever they die from, aside from outside catastrophe like a car accident, being shot, etc..., the cause of death is AIDS related complication.

What is irresponsible is judging people out of your own ignorance of Tommy's condition prior to this report.


Tommy Morrison Talks about Hiv Diagnosis and Boxing Comeback - YouTube

God rest your soul Tommy. I use to watch him fight.Terribly sad. :(

Different articles say he was bedridden (sick) for years. So, it probably wasn't a car crash. Some of the articles say Tommy thought AIDs was a "government conspiracy" so he kept fighting in the ring after he tested positive. Considering the blood that can flow in the ring, it's irresponsible of him to take even the slightest chance with that.
Tommy goes back and forth on the AIDs issue himself. On the one hand he says it's a "conspiracy", on the other hand, he regrets his promiscuous behavior and says how it is possible for a heterosexual man to catch AIDs. It sounds like he was conflicted, so I can see why the family wouldn't want to release the cause of his death.
 
Upvote 0

Chrystal-J

The one who stands firm to the end will be saved.
Site Supporter
Oct 19, 2004
13,499
6,806
Detroit
✟953,824.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Widowed
Politics
US-Others
Then the article you posted should say so, which it does not.

His wife claims he died of Guillain-Barre syndrome, but it only has a death rate of 4% and most people recover from that. So, it's possible he did die of that, but not likely.
Technically, you don't die of AIDs, you die from diseases you can't fight off cuz you have AIDs. If you want, you can have a mod change my title to "had AIDs and died"...if that would make you feel better. (I have no problem with that.)
 
Upvote 0

BlunderAngel

Well-Known Member
Aug 3, 2013
861
40
✟1,289.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
Terribly sad. I watched one of his last fights where he got destroyed in the ring. He was clearly not fit for the fight and this was after the HIV diagnosis news hit the press.

:( My sympathies to his family and friends.

I can't believe we're fighting over this man we did not know and his cause of death.
 
Upvote 0

Chrystal-J

The one who stands firm to the end will be saved.
Site Supporter
Oct 19, 2004
13,499
6,806
Detroit
✟953,824.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Widowed
Politics
US-Others
I was in a hurry when I created this thread, so that accounts for the title. It probably should of been "Had AIDs and died". But, the main reason I posted this was to promote Tommy's warning of what can happen when you live a promiscuous lifestyle. And the fact that he regretted the way he basically threw away everything due to his sexual behavior. I know some young people today are as out-of-control as Tommy was, hopefully they will read the articles posted about his death and re-think their choices.
 
Upvote 0

MikeK

Traditionalist Catholic
Feb 4, 2004
32,104
5,649
Wisconsin
✟98,321.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
I was in a hurry when I created this thread, so that accounts for the title. It probably should of been "Had AIDs and died". But, the main reason I posted this was to promote Tommy's warning of what can happen when you live a promiscuous lifestyle. And the fact that he regretted the way he basically threw away everything due to his sexual behavior. I know some young people today are as out-of-control as Tommy was, hopefully they will read the articles posted about his death and re-think their choices.

I didn't read the article - was it through sexual promiscuity that he came into contact with the virus?
 
Upvote 0

Chrystal-J

The one who stands firm to the end will be saved.
Site Supporter
Oct 19, 2004
13,499
6,806
Detroit
✟953,824.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Widowed
Politics
US-Others
I didn't read the article - was it through sexual promiscuity that he came into contact with the virus?

Tommy says that he only had heterosexual sex and still contracted AIDs, but he also noted that he was very promiscuous. He never mentioned any use of drugs (with needles)...at least from what I've read.
 
Upvote 0

Michie

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
Feb 5, 2002
180,468
65,020
Woods
✟5,732,336.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
I was reading some other publications concerning his death last night Chrystal. All I read said he died from complication due to AIDS. He did at one time denied there was even such a thing as AIDS.
 
Upvote 0