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I lived in the neighborhood my husband grew up in. It had gone from a family blue collar neighborhood to primarily latino. A lot of the adults did work hard. But their kids were left home and gangs moved into our neighborhood, actually ironically a subset of MS 13. One of my neighbor's daughter told me how they were trying to get her to "claim" a gang a school. She was in 3rd grade (and I gave her a ride to AWANAS on Wednesdays and helped her study her verses). My BIL's truck had two bullet holes in the side from a drive by during one night (he lived next door to us). I moved my bed away from the window after that and the kids weren't allowed to sleep in our room (theirs was on the back of the house). The sweet old lady across the street had her driveway tagged...we never were sure if it was a tag of protection or if it marked her house as target because her grandson lived there periodically (he was a gang member). My kids could never ride their bikes around the block because we were worried what could happen to them when they were out of our sight and they could only ride their bikes when one us was outside in the front yard. All my grocery flyers went from coming in English, to biligual, and eventually they were primarily in Spanish. I served as the team mom for my son's Little League team and had to talk to young children on the phone who translated messages about practices and team information to the adults. And I had no one to talk to on the bleachers when watching the game. I do know several of the mothers were saying unflattering things about me "behind my back" because I did understand enough spanish to get the gist of what they were saying. Yes, my son's coach was Latino and a great man. One of our neighbors was very nice but even he was upset that his wife (an illegal from Hondoras) hadn't bother to learn English even though she had lived there 7 years ... and he was fluent along with her young daughter being fluent. And our neighborhood was full of houses illegally remodeled to house 10-15 adult men instead of families...or illegal additions to house second or third families living in a single family dwelling. I didn't look back when we finally did move out of that neighborhood even though it was initially a good place to live. Life was not better for the Latino families once the gangs moved in. They weren't living the "American dream". They were caught in a cycle where they could never become legal and they could never afford to move their kids out of the gang ridden neighborhoods here that they left their own counties to escape.

On the flip side, my immigrant friends who came in legally were able to move into "good neighborhoods", get good jobs, and provide futures for their kids. Some come from less that ideal backgrounds but live good lives here as LEGAL citizens and take great pride in the day they got US citizenship. One family even celebrates their Citizenship day annually because they value being here.

Yes! That last example describes the friend I mentioned, only he's still working on his citizenship at this time. For those who support giving illegal immigrants citizenship, I can't imagine how that would feel to someone going the long road of doing it the legal way. Sickening, probably...
 
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Then post a reputable, fact-based Christian source that contradicts the two sources I gave to you.
i am listening to feeds and shows real time on cable and internet all day at work - (and bible scripture av at home all evening and night)

i can't give you a link to cable info - and i don't have time to search backwards for things i heard on the internet days weeks months ago

if you are happy with the info you are trusting now you will not be interested in searching for better DAILY sources of calm factual info

but if anyone is tired of the inflammatory commentary and rhetoric of msm and is interested in calmer more factual info here are some i use - in order of what i think is best

1. news feeds with no commentary
2. whitehouse channel feeds which also have no commentary
3. fox and friends
4. sarah carter / john solomon
5. outnumbered overtime
6. martha maccallum
7. shannon bream
8. david barton
9. 700 club news watch
10. veritas hidden camera videos
11. aclj jay sekulow live
12. daystar joni and friends
 
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i am listening to feeds and shows real time on cable and internet all day at work - (and bible scripture av at home all evening and night)

i can't give you a link to cable info - and i don't have time to search backwards for things i heard on the internet days weeks months ago

if you are happy with the info you are trusting now you will not be interested in searching for better DAILY sources of calm factual info

but if anyone is tired of the inflammatory commentary and rhetoric of msm and is interested in calmer more factual info here are some i use - in order of what i think is best

1. news feeds with no commentary
2. whitehouse channel feeds which also have no commentary
3. fox and friends
4. outnumbered overtime
5. martha maccallum
6. shannon bream
7. david barton
8. 700 club news watch
9. veritas hidden camera videos
10. aclj jay sekulow live
11. daystar joni and friends

Well a simple no, that you do not have any sources that refute what either of my reputable sources said, would have done the job. Not liking what the source is doesn't undermine the fact of it.
 
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Well a simple no, that you do not have any sources that refute what either of my reputable sources said, would have done the job. Not liking what the source is doesn't undermine the fact of it.
no - that was a comprehensive yes to say that i probably hear more factual news all day every day than you do and am therefore more informed

and i was giving info for others who might want better calmer factual sources than the ones you presented

iow you can hunt and pick for what msm has to offer or you can become a real newsie and consistently keep up with what is really going on

will be editing my previous post with more good sources so there is no excuse to listen to hyper nonsense from msm any more

i am listening to feeds and shows real time on cable and internet all day at work - (and bible scripture av at home all evening and night)

i can't give you a link to cable info - and i don't have time to search backwards for things i heard on the internet days weeks months ago

if you are happy with the info you are trusting now you will not be interested in searching for better DAILY sources of calm factual info

but if anyone is tired of the inflammatory commentary and rhetoric of msm and is interested in calmer more factual info here are some i use - in order of what i think is best

1. news feeds with no commentary
2. whitehouse channel feeds which also have no commentary
3. fox and friends
4. sarah carter / john solomon
5. outnumbered overtime
6. martha maccallum
7. shannon bream
8. david barton
9. 700 club news watch
10. veritas hidden camera videos
11. aclj jay sekulow live
12. daystar joni and friends
 
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no - that was a comprehensive yes to say that i probably hear more factual news all day every day than you do and am therefore more informed

and i was giving info for others who might want better calmer factual sources than the ones you presented

iow you can hunt and pick for what msm has to offer or you can become a real newsie and consistently keep up with what is really going on

will be editing my previous post with more good sources so there is no excuse to listen to hyper nonsense from msm any more

Well, that sounded like it was just your way of saying you hear news that lines up with what you want to hear.
 
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not any different than what you do - are either of us surprised?

Actually, it's the opposite. I used two different reputable sources to provide facts. You just dismissed them outright on account of them not saying what you want to hear. I was willing to & eager to see facts from sources you chose that gave facts on the topic but you failed to provide any.
 
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Actually, it's the opposite. I used two different reputable sources to provide facts. You just dismissed them outright on account of them not saying what you want to hear. I was willing to & eager to see facts from sources you chose that gave facts on the topic but you failed to provide any.
you used sources with an anti-trump globalist agenda

i use sources all day that are prayerful calm factual - their agenda is to please God

start listening to my news sources and you will find out what i'm talking about

keep using yours and you will get a boat load of agendized commentary
 
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you used sources with an anti-trump globalist agenda

i use sources all day that are prayerful calm factual - their agenda is to please God

start listening to my news sources and you will find out what i'm talking about

keep using yours and you will get a boat load of agendized commentary

Sources reporting facts that are not to your liking do not equate to them being anti-Trump with a globalist agenda. All I've asked from you is that you provide sources - any sources you please - that are reputable & have facts that refute what I posted in my 2 sources. Instead you've just insulted & stalled.
 
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Sources reporting facts that are not to your liking do not equate to them being anti-Trump with a globalist agenda. All I've asked from you is that you provide sources - any sources you please - that are reputable & have facts that refute what I posted in my 2 sources. Instead you've just insulted & stalled.
i explained how i can only give you cable options

accept that or not - but don't keep asking the same questions repeatedly
 
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The sources you provided - if it is the ones in #64 - are agenda driven. For instance, Fox and Friends, Veritas hidden videos, and Sekulow are terribly biased.

PBS is very unbiased as far as news goes.
 
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The wall is not really being built. As of the end of August, the money spent was just to reinforce the existing walls.

Trump's border wall boast runs into budget maw

Rallying cheering supporters in West Virginia, President Donald Trump called border security the “beating heart” of this election and suggested to the faithful that he has $3.2 billion for his long-promised border wall.

“The wall — right now, that wall is coming along. We’re over $3 billion, it’s moving along very nicely. Very nicely,” Trump told a packed arena in Charleston on Tuesday night.

Left unsaid was that Congress has approved only half that amount, and that the battle for more money comes amid the threat of another government shutdown — possibly at the end of September, scarcely a month before the November midterm elections which could serve as a referendum on his first two years in office.
The most recent spending bill did not include funding for the wall.
Trump signs spending bill to avoid government shutdown, despite frustrations over border wall

President Donald Trump on Friday signed a spending bill that will avert a government shutdown despite previously calling the measure "ridiculous" because it did not include funding for a wall along the southern border​
 
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The sources you provided - if it is the ones in #64 - are agenda driven. For instance, Fox and Friends, Veritas hidden videos, and Sekulow are terribly biased.

PBS is very unbiased as far as news goes.
i disagree - pbs is anti-trump - always has been ever since the golf course in scotland

pbs is also biased against God scripture christianity etc - their agenda is not in agreement with my beliefs

f&f - veritas - sekulow are calm and factual - they are giving facts rather than commentary or punditry -
 
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No, PBS is not anti-Trump. And the three you like are extremely biased.
that is actually not at all true - the 12 that i listed are fair balanced calm factual

perhaps you and i have a different definition for biased

biased is when someone can say nothing good - or nothing bad

everyone has good points and bad - so fair is where the good and bad are shared

pbs can share nothing good about trump - and misrepresent God the bible and christianity

veritas shows hidden videos - it's the person's own words - nothing but facts

aclj share facts and when people start getting unkind the hosts bring people back to the christian principle of praying for everyone rather than getting in their face/getting violent/harassing - they do everything legally and properly

fox and friends shows what d's say and what r's say - they often give more time to what d's say
 
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Yes, so.
Check https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Media-Bias-Chart-2018_fig1_326557348

PBS is right there in the Neutral area on the right top, just with the Wall street journal and the Christian Science Monitor.

For goodness sakes, Jay Sekulow is Trump's personal lawyer serving on the team to address the Russia investigation. He isn't going to speak against his own client.

And Project Veritas is facing a number of lawsuits regarding its practices which seem quite dishonest. Here is one:
Court green-lights Democrats' suit against Project Veritas
The Veritas employee used lies and deception. That is not Christian.
 
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Yes, so.
Check https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Media-Bias-Chart-2018_fig1_326557348

PBS is right there in the Neutral area on the right top, just with the Wall street journal and the Christian Science Monitor.

For goodness sakes, Jay Sekulow is Trump's personal lawyer serving on the team to address the Russia investigation. He isn't going to speak against his own client.

And Project Veritas is facing a number of lawsuits regarding its practices which seem quite dishonest. Here is one:
Court green-lights Democrats' suit against Project Veritas
The Veritas employee used lies and deception. That is not Christian.
perhaps you and i have a different definition for biased

biased is when someone can say nothing good - or nothing bad

everyone has good points and bad - so fair is where the good and bad are shared

pbs can share nothing good about trump - and misrepresent God the bible and christianity

veritas shows hidden videos - it's the person's own words - nothing but facts

aclj share facts and when people start getting unkind the hosts bring people back to the christian principle of praying for everyone rather than getting in their face/getting violent/harassing - they do everything legally and properly

jay sekulow has only been trump's lawyer for a short time compared to how long he has been hosting his daily broadcast - he's a straight arrow that stands up for what is right - being trump's lawyer does not change that fact

fox and friends shows what d's say and what r's say - they often give more time to what d's say
 
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