Book: "In The Beginning"

[correlationrevelation]

Has anyone read the book "In The Beginning" by Walt Brown, phD? He presents an excellent argument that the flood did occur globally and backs it up with a lot of science. I loved that book. You should check it out.
- Adrienne

 

[KerrMetric]

Walt Brown couldn't make a good argument for motherhood, apple pie and helping old folk cross the road. The man is seriously in need of help, both academic and psychological. If you think he makes an excellent argument then I suggest that you don't know anything about the material in question.

 

[Mocca]

I think it has a lot to do with sounding confident. A writer who is bold, brash, and confident is more likely to be accepted by an audience that doesn't understand the material than, say, a scientific paper, which never makes claims of absolute certainty and such.

And of course, when a writer supports one's views, even though he or she may not understand the material in question, as long as the writer writes confidently and boldly, the reader often just accepts it.

Shame.

 

[TeddyKGB]

Brown is among the select few creationists who are so warped that they think nothing of outright lying to support their ideas (and then inventing a conspiracy or similar to explain why the lie isn't really a lie).

In Brown's case, he claims that a layer of water has been detected ten miles below the Earth's surface, but that the geological community is covering it up.

 

[KittyPryde]

There is an algorithm at the bottom of this page:
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/TechnicalNotes2.html
I was wondering if some of you science types on here could validate the calculations used to date the maximum age of the Earth's moon to be 1.19 billion years.

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

There is an algorithm at the bottom of this page:
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/TechnicalNotes2.html
I was wondering if some of you science types on here could validate the calculations used to date the maximum age of the Earth's moon to be 1.19 billion years.

It is bogus. The short answer is that tidal dissipation depends on the position of the continents which has not been constant over time. The calculations are actually very complicated but are presented by Kagen and Maslova

Kagan, B.A. & Maslova, N.B.
A stochastic model of the Earth-moon tidal evolution accounting for
cyclic variations of resonant properties of the ocean: An asymptotic solution
Earth, Moon and Planets 66: 173-188, 1994

Kagan also discusses the recession of the moon and the paleontological evidence in
Kagan, B.A.
Earth-Moon tidal evolution: model results and observational evidence
Progress in Oceanography 40(1-4): 109-124, 1997

I have several papers on this at work but right now I am afraid I will have to reference that evilutionist site TalkOrigins which has a very good piece on the recession of the moon written by NASA Physicist and long time internet debator Tim Thompson here.

The Frumious Bandersnatch

 

[Asimov]

There is an algorithm at the bottom of this page:
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/TechnicalNotes2.html
I was wondering if some of you science types on here could validate the calculations used to date the maximum age of the Earth's moon to be 1.19 billion years.

Asimov's Law: If a given source presents at least 3 logical fallacies or at least 3 known creationist misarguments in the first 2 paragraphs, the source is invalid.

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Has anyone read the book "In The Beginning" by Walt Brown, phD? He presents an excellent argument that the flood did occur globally and backs it up with a lot of science. I loved that book. You should check it out.
- Adrienne

Walt's stuff is so silly that according to Glenn Morton he couldn't even get it published in creationist technical journals. Not the least of the problems is that it cooks the earth to death though that hasn't stopped other YECs from pushing their models. His denial of plate tectonics and magnetic reversals is also problematic.

Further "liquifaction" is hardly an explanation for the geologic column and fossil record. It fails as miserably as all other attempts of flood geology to explain the actual earth. Glenn has a good page detailing some of the many problems with Brown's model HERE.

 

[KittyPryde]

It is bogus. The short answer is that tidal dissipation depends on the position of the continents which has not been constant over time. The calculations are actually very complicated but are presented by Kagen and Maslova

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The Frumious Bandersnatch

The formula I found on that site did seem to be very simplistic. I guess this book doesn't amount to more than a bad science fiction novel.

 

[Mocca]

The formula I found on that site did seem to be very simplistic. I guess this book doesn't amount to more than a bad science fiction novel.

The science fiction novel writers are very offended.