Blue Jeans

[parsley]

Most female pastors I've seen were wearing robes. I think that's a good idea, to slow down wandering minds. One was wearing a business suit, but she appeared more a lecturer or administrator that way. Still, I liked how she looked. She wore what I would have worn in any public speaking situation.

 

[GoodSpeed]

Most female pastors I've seen were wearing robes. I think that's a good idea, to slow down wandering minds. One was wearing a business suit, but she appeared more a lecturer or administrator that way. Still, I liked how she looked. She wore what I would have worn in any public speaking situation.

That's a good idea -- just in case other men think like me ....

 

[Inkachu]

God forbid we ask the men to control their eyes and thoughts...

 

[GoodSpeed]

God forbid we ask the men to control their eyes and thoughts...

If you wear skin-tight clothing (and very little of it) I promise to control my eyes and thoughts

Just kidding -- the point is that yes men should control themselves, but it is also a good idea not to dress provocatively as well ...

In truth, wearing spandex like a yoga instructor is going to turn men's heads ... maybe they shouldn't be looking and they might catch themselves and look away - but men are humans ...

 

[abysmul]

Hi all,
Do you think that in a Sunday church service it is ok for the Preacher to wear jeans.

Oberland

Yes.

The important question is what are they preaching?

 

[Philpy1976]

One of the best preachers I have ever seen wears jeans.
Francis Chan.

What they say and how they actually live theirs lives is far more important than fabrics.

 

[Inkachu]

If you wear skin-tight clothing (and very little of it) I promise to control my eyes and thoughts

Just kidding --

But why are you kidding? Even if a woman is walking naked down the street, the responsibility to look away and control your thoughts is on YOU, nobody else.

No, I'm not suggesting that people start walking around naked lol. It's just a point I'm making.

the point is that yes men should control themselves, but it is also a good idea not to dress provocatively as well ...

I agree, BUT the idea that a woman should just wear a shapeless muumuu (aka burkha... hello) to avoid "provoking" men's lusts, is insane and insulting. A woman standing in front of a congregation should not be restricted to a robe simply for the purpose of sparing the men from being tempted to lust. If a man can't look at a woman in plain old clothes without "checking her out"... the problem is HIM.

In truth, wearing spandex like a yoga instructor is going to turn men's heads ... maybe they shouldn't be looking and they might catch themselves and look away - but men are humans ...

Men look because they choose to look. Period. You aren't slaves to your eyeballs. The devil doesn't physically grab your head and turn it. You look because you choose to. Therefore, you can NOT look by choice as well.

Again, I'm not disagreeing that women should dress appropriately and modestly, but it's not just to "spare the men" as if men are all slavering, mindless monsters who can't control themselves. That's insulting to women AND men.

This topic has been beaten to death so many times, and I'm sorry for going at it again. I'll exit the thread quietly now

 

[GoodSpeed]

I agree with all that Inka

 

[RDKirk]

But why are you kidding? Even if a woman is walking naked down the street, the responsibility to look away and control your thoughts is on YOU, nobody else.

Gets difficult if she's the preacher standing in front of the congregation.

 

[Albion]

Most female pastors I've seen were wearing robes.

Possibly because the denominations that are most into women pastors are ones in which the pastor has always worn robes. Baptists and other fundamentalists are much less likely to have women pastors.

 

[OntheHorizon]

Gets difficult if she's the preacher standing in front of the congregation.

Yeah but a mans lust is his own. A woman shouldnt need to become a square so that she is no longer an evil sex toy that men can't help but want to use and no theme like this exists for men. Why are women the dangerous sin bringers?

If women are the ones who have to be wrapped in styrofoam because they are inherently evil and tempting then why are women not the ones with lust problems?

 

[Christopher M Nance]

1 Samuel 16:7: But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.”



Titus 3:9: But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.

 

[asiyreh]

I think we should have a Christian Burka policy.

All in favour say aye

 

[RDKirk]

Yeah but a mans lust is his own. A woman shouldnt need to become a square so that she is no longer an evil sex toy that men can't help but want to use and no theme like this exists for men. Why are women the dangerous sin bringers?

If women are the ones who have to be wrapped in styrofoam because they are inherently evil and tempting then why are women not the ones with lust problems?

I don't recall anyone here suggesting that women should be wrapped in styrofoam or wear burqas. It's not that helpful to rush to absurdity to argue against moderation. Not everything is on a slippery slope.

There is clothing that non-Christian women wear specifically to make strange men lust after them (do a Google Image search on "Kim Kardashian). If women who don't want men to lust after them wear the same clothing...confusion is to be expected.

But I also don't expect Christian women to wear see-through skirts sans underpants as Kim Kardashian has been known to do, so let's not run to absurdity in either direction.

 

[OntheHorizon]

Even if they did, a mans lust is still the mans responsibility. I am well aware you don't think women should wear styrofoam.

Are you not aware of the extent women have been expected to cover their self? and for the purpose of not making men want to use them? Its not a joke, it does happen.

 

[RDKirk]

Even if they did, a mans lust is still the mans responsibility. I am well aware you don't think women should wear styrofoam.

Are you not aware of the extent women have been expected to cover their self? and for the purpose of not making men want to use them? Its not a joke, it does happen.

And you're well aware that nobody in this thread is talking about that.

 

[OntheHorizon]

Yes we are. One person mentioned robes and this idea that you agreed exists is extremely common in church today.

 

[RDKirk]

Yes we are. One person mentioned robes and this idea that you agreed exists is extremely common in church today.

One person mentioned that everyone in the pulpit in his denomination wears robes. I didn't agree to anything about that.

 

[OntheHorizon]

I wasn't implying you are anything. I was saying your feelings are your responsibility, when inka expressed this you said that would be difficult if she was before the congregation.

The topic is about dress codes in church and for women it is commonly excessive and for the reason of men lusting.

 

[Albion]

The topic is about dress codes in church and for women it is commonly excessive and for the reason of men lusting.

The topic is the attire of the MINISTER only, and the idea that the congregation is lusting after a woman minister if she's dressed in business clothes is so ridiculous that it deserves a quick death.