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Blm Co-founder admitted the movement is based on witchcraft

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There is something even worse than that... trained marxist sorcery.

It's a post-Hegelian Marxist-materialist-Baba Yaga dialectical funfest.
 
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Spiritual warfare. Now I have specific names to pray against. Including an entity that is named.

Sure, and separating refugee children from their parents isn't satanic.
 
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The problem here is that your misunderstanding what BLM is. You’re treating it like an organization where membership requires you to subscribe to all the ideas of the founder. It’s not. The founders might have gotten the ball rolling, but they don’t organize every protest, they don’t issue orders, they don’t exercise control over the movement. The people who show up for these protests probably don’t know who she is, and they don’t need to. She’s not the reason they’re there. BLM is more of a movement than an organization.

So it doesn’t matter all that much what kooky beliefs the co founder may or may not have. It wouldn’t even matter if she was a flat earther. The people who attend these protests don’t subscribe to those beliefs, they aren’t witches , they aren’t summoning evil spirits. To act like they are, to pretend that BLM is composed of cultists and Satan-worshippers, is fear mongering, plain and simple.

That goes back to the weak position of not being able to Criticize Blm because nobody represents Blm. Sorry but I don't see it that way. The founders and the members all represent Blm. The protesters are showing anti Christian behavior. They are looting, burning and desecrating religious symbols. Now we find out it was started by a self proclaimed witch.
 
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It's this weird guilt by association. If I post pictures of right-wingers screaming 'White Power' or hold pictures of Obama with a bone through his nose, I'll be quickly told how not all conservatives are racists, how I shouldn't judge them all just because some are that way.

But you find a YouTube video of some guy at a BLM protest saying 'F--- Jesus', and that's enough to label the entire movement as anti-Christian.

Well then there’s the churches they’ve been harassing for no apparent reason as well. So no that’s not based on something one guy said.


https://youtu.be/nuf_ydZ8xvk
 
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Each person is responsible for their own convictions. She is secular, I am a Christian, yet we have one thing in common, bring to light police brutality and finding solutions. Be blessed.

I've yet to see any solutions. As a Christian I find it hard to back lawlessness as a solution to police brutality. I also believe each person is responsible for their own actions that's why I don't understand the mentality of punishing all police. Why rob a store or burn a home for the actions of one man that had no connection to the property being destroyed? If the movement is against the police why attack random people and beat on them? To me all I've seen from this group is the opposite of what the bible teaches. I can't just sit back and be a Christian in name only. I have to follow word of God.
 
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That goes back to the weak position of not being able to Criticize Blm because nobody represents Blm. Sorry but I don't see it that way. The founders and the members all represent Blm. The protesters are showing anti Christian behavior. They are looting, burning and desecrating religious symbols. Now we find out it was started by a self proclaimed witch.

I agree, and I believe that is their intention is to be able to have zero accountability for the actions of their members while at the same time never openly condemning any actions done by its members. They see media coverage and public outrage as political power plain & simple. The leaders can just sit back and let their members go out and wreak havoc on entire cities without any consequences or accountability while at the same time reaping all the benefits from donations and extortion of local businesses.
 
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I've yet to see any solutions. As a Christian I find it hard to back lawlessness as a solution to police brutality.
Here's another chance to post evidence that the lawlessness is the issue. Remember a while back a football player protested silently and peacefully. Showing contemporaneous support for those actions would demonstrate that the lawlessness was in fact the issue, as opposed to the objection being something else. I wonder if posts showing such support exist.
 
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That goes back to the weak position of not being able to Criticize Blm because nobody represents Blm. Sorry but I don't see it that way.
You can see it however way you like, but that doesn't mean it's accurate.

Most BLM protesters don't even know or care who the founder is. It's irrelevant. Whatever its roots, it's clearly moved away and beyond the people who started it. It wouldn't matter if she was a crazy devil worshipping Communist reincarnation of Stalin.

The founders and the members all represent Blm.
Why? Because you say so?

The protesters are showing anti Christian behavior. They are looting, burning and desecrating religious symbols.
The vast majority of them are not. The dirty little secret that people like yourselves don't know or aren't aware of is that, far and away, the BLM protests have been peaceful and without violent incidents, and I do have the data to back that up if you care to see that. In an age where everything is recorded, it's easy to point to incidents out of the thousands of protests in this country where things get out of hand, but you go beyond that and act like these are the rule and not the exception.

Now we find out it was started by a self proclaimed witch.
Being a witch is a lot more than just talking about calling on spirits and whatnot. I'm not an expert on wicca - and neither or you, clearly - but I know the actual practice is far more complicated than anything she described.
 
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Do you live in a hole somewhere with no access to the news or do you just turn a blind eye towards all the riots, theft, arson, and assaults that have been going on for over the past 3 months?

She put it out there. Witchcraft is obviously important to her.

If we be honest with ourselves we would just look through some of our past threads and find that we support many groups whose leaders have done anti-Christian things....some of them we dont even know because we did not bother to seek out something negative about them.....because we liked the ideas and the cause behind the groups.

We just need to sit back and ask ourselves the uncomfortable questions: What is it about the term "Black lives matter" that rubs me the wrong way? Why do I scringe and wish to change Black to All everytime I see it? Why do I have a desire to find any dirt on anyone in the movement that could validate what I feel about the movement? Why do I desire to try to get others to be just as against it as I am, by posting "If you are for this group, you arent christian, because no christian should support this" etc....

If we sit back and ponder these things....we will find the answer. We have to be willing to be made uncomfortable before we can be comforted....

Yet this we, most likely, will not do.... So let us, instead, continue to repeat the statement......"The Church movement is no good, we cant trust anything they say or stand for because a co-leader was found doing wrong.....and oh, I support the church".....and , believe that there is wisdom in these types of statements.
 
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If we be honest with ourselves we would just look through some of our past threads and find that we support many groups whose leaders have done anti-Christian things....some of them we dont even know because we did not bother to seek out something negative about them.....because we liked the ideas and the cause behind the groups.

We just need to sit back and ask ourselves the uncomfortable questions: What is it about the term "Black lives matter" that rubs me the wrong way? Why do I scringe and wish to change Black to All everytime I see it? Why do I have a desire to find any dirt on anyone in the movement that could validate what I feel about the movement? Why do I desire to try to get others to be just as against it as I am, by posting "If you are for this group, you arent christian, because no christian should support this" etc....

If we sit back and ponder these things....we will find the answer. We have to be willing to be made uncomfortable before we can be comforted....

Yet this we, most likely, will not do.... So let us, instead, continue to repeat the statement......"The Church movement is no good, we cant trust anything they say or stand for because a co-leader was found doing wrong.....and oh, I support the church".....and , believe that there is wisdom in these types of statements.

Wait...have a desire to search for dirt on BLM? How can a person watch the news without seeing dirt on BLM? It’s everywhere you look. BLM has exploded ever since George Floyd’s death and has been in controversy every single day of the week since his death. It’s one thing after another. Do you see everyone searching for dirt on BET? (Black entertainment channel) Or maybe the United Negro College fund? No you don’t. The word black in BLM has nothing to do with this. That’s a ridiculous claim. Nobody is against these other black organizations because THEYRE NOT RIOTING AND BURNING CITIES ALL ACROSS AMERICA!!
 
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I've yet to see any solutions. As a Christian I find it hard to back lawlessness as a solution to police brutality. I also believe each person is responsible for their own actions that's why I don't understand the mentality of punishing all police. Why rob a store or burn a home for the actions of one man that had no connection to the property being destroyed? If the movement is against the police why attack random people and beat on them? To me all I've seen from this group is the opposite of what the bible teaches. I can't just sit back and be a Christian in name only. I have to follow word of God.
There are municipalities working behind the scenes implementing programs that will divide the work load between police officers and mental health professionals. Also, municipalities are taking a hard look at the type of training given to officers especially " shoot to kill", the militarization of the law enforcement and the ending of joint training with Israel police and our officers.
These are steps now already in place or are in the works. This takes time.
Additionally, when you speak of violence you speak of a very small minority of those who protest. No one wants violence who protests for peace.
Last I will leave you with the roots of Protestantism by sharing a link to its historical breakthrough. Be blessed
History of Protestantism - Wikipedia
 
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I've yet to see any solutions. As a Christian I find it hard to back lawlessness as a solution to police brutality. I also believe each person is responsible for their own actions that's why I don't understand the mentality of punishing all police. Why rob a store or burn a home for the actions of one man that had no connection to the property being destroyed? If the movement is against the police why attack random people and beat on them? To me all I've seen from this group is the opposite of what the bible teaches. I can't just sit back and be a Christian in name only. I have to follow word of God.

That’s where their misquoted slogan from Rev Martin Luther King comes in “no justice, no peace”. BLM advocates this as a threat when brother MLK states it as an observation not an ultimatum. “There can be no peace without justice” is what he actually said.
 
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I agree, and I believe that is their intention is to be able to have zero accountability for the actions of their members while at the same time never openly condemning any actions done by its members. They see media coverage and public outrage as political power plain & simple. The leaders can just sit back and let their members go out and wreak havoc on entire cities without any consequences or accountability while at the same time reaping all the benefits from donations and extortion of local businesses.
I'm confused. Are you speaking of BLM or anti-BLM people or both?
 
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Well then there’s the churches they’ve been harassing for no apparent reason as well. So no that’s not based on something one guy said.

https://youtu.be/nuf_ydZ8xvk
is this the church that preaches that black people are cursed and are just animals pretending to be people? The same church that you can't get into unless you get to prove you are an actual Christian by touching a slice of ham? The same church that holds gun raffles so can go out and shoot "animals" in the street?
That church?
 
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That goes back to the weak position of not being able to Criticize Blm because nobody represents Blm. Sorry but I don't see it that way. The founders and the members all represent Blm. The protesters are showing anti Christian behavior. They are looting, burning and desecrating religious symbols. Now we find out it was started by a self proclaimed witch.
And priests are molesting children and Baptist Ministers are meeting prostitutes in motels. Gynecologists are sterilizing women without their consent. White people are committing mass shootings. Lots of groups engaged in anti-Christian behavior.
 
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That’s where their misquoted slogan from Rev Martin Luther King comes in “no justice, no peace”. BLM advocates this as a threat when brother MLK states it as an observation not an ultimatum. “There can be no peace without justice” is what he actually said.
It’s not a threat when I say it, certainly not a threat of violence. It’s a statement of fact. You can’t claim to know people’s intent.
 
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It’s not a threat when I say it, certainly not a threat of violence. It’s a statement of fact. You can’t claim to know people’s intent.

You can claim to know some people’s intent. Body language and tone says a lot. I’m glad that you don’t say this quote as a threat but would you go so far as to honestly say that the majority of BLM protesters don’t?
 
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