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[Heissonear]

All you are offering are empty claims. There is nothing to wake up to.

You have been blind to the Spiritual in our midst long enough. It is such a false and temporal position in life. Zero awareness of the Spiritual realm, and proud of it. How blind.

 

[BarryDesborough]

You have been blind to the Spiritual in our midst long enough. It is such a false and temporal position in life. Zero awareness of the Spiritual realm, and proud of it. How blind.

Empty assertions.

 

[Heissonear]

I am pointing out where what you say differs rom the quote you gave from the bible. That is not my fault, it is yours.

So "call and I will answer" is actually subject to a number of sub-clauses is it?

Actually, no. I was more interested in you answering my question that you ignored. This one:

Still waiting for a reply.

Its the message not the messenger. Its finally waking up to the Spiritual Realm. Till then attack the messenger. A common trait of the Spiritually Bankrupt. Finding faults and pushing faults.

 

[Heissonear]

Empty assertions.

You are blind to Him. You assert He is not, without any proof. What you don't see you say is not there. Confidently. Such is blindness.

 

[Lucy Stulz]

You are blind to Him. You assert He is not, without any proof.

Assert he is not, without any proof.

So are you REALLY asking BD to PROVE A NEGATIVE?

Is that what God wants? The logically impossible?

What you don't see you say is not there. Confidently. Such is blindness.

So would you prefer that we believe in what we do not see or experience in any way? Is that the price of faith? Empty rhetoric? Lip service to an invisible being?

Surely for YOU God is real. The spiritual is real. Only problem is, not everyone is so "blessed" as to experience the spiritual. And most of us don't want to be told "you have to 'believe' first in order to experience it!"

If there is a God then he made a bunch of us wrong. Why would he do that?

And if we acquiesce to giving meaningless lip service to something we don't feel or believe is there, is THAT truly all God needs from us?

That doesn't paint a very attractive picture of God. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Cearbhall]

You have been blind to the Spiritual in our midst long enough. It is such a false and temporal position in life. Zero awareness of the Spiritual realm, and proud of it. How blind.

How condescending. Do you expect us to listen to a statement like that when we could say the same thing back to you and have just as much validity?

You are blind to Him. You assert He is not, without any proof. What you don't see you say is not there. Confidently. Such is blindness.

You assert he is, without any proof. What you don't see you say is there. Confidently. Such is insanity.

 

[CabVet]

You are blind to Him. You assert He is not, without any proof. What you don't see you say is not there. Confidently. Such is blindness.

Empty assertions.

 

[Cearbhall]

As a Naturalist I did not know that if God existed that He would be the God of the Bible.

But when revealing Himself He made it crytal clear He is the God of the Bible. Through Baptism of the Holy Spirit The Bible "came alive". The Bible is His Word through His doing through men.

And what of those of us who haven't been granted this mystical revelation? We're supposed to take the word of people from all these different religions that contradict one another?

 

[Michael]

And what of those of us who haven't been granted this mystical revelation? We're supposed to take the word of people from all these different religions that contradict one another?

You might do what folks do related to pretty much every other topic of interest, and start by studying the teachings of a world recognized "expert" on the topic. In terms of pure numbers, the teachings of Jesus are likely to be your best bet. I prefer red letter additions of the KJV, and the Catholic Douay-Rheims translation myself, but only due to the closeness to historical translation periods. I can translate from old English to new English myself.

In terms of various contradictions, sometimes a full understanding of historical contexts can help explain many later variations on the same theme. That's particularly true of the concept of eternal torment, a concept devoid in the Jewish vocabulary of the time, and devoid in the version of Christianity that Origin taught to his original Christian students.

FYI, you can thank Augustine for grafting the Greek pagan concept of Hades onto what was once a relatively 'clean' religion, in terms of being close to the original meaning of various Jewish terms.

 

[Heissonear]

How condescending. Do you expect us to listen to a statement like that when we could say the same thing back to you and have just as much validity?

You assert he is, without any proof. What you don't see you say is there. Confidently. Such is insanity.

Like many others on this forum, you are quite unaware of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. You lack such experience in this life.

Acts 1:5
"For John baptized with water, but you shall be baptized by the Holy Spirit"

John 3:3
"Truely, truely, I say to you, unless one is born from Above, he cannot see the Kingdom of God"

 

[Heissonear]

Empty assertions.

Try as you do, you cannot say the Spiritual Realm does not exist because You do not have the evidence. It becomes you who makes the empty assertion.

I have evidence. That makes you blind to a reality in our midst. So far all you have are words by sitting on the sidelines. Silly words that are temporal.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

Its the message not the messenger. Its finally waking up to the Spiritual Realm. Till then attack the messenger. A common trait of the Spiritually Bankrupt. Finding faults and pushing faults.

So you are utterly unable to answer the question. You have nothing more than hot air. Bankruptcy is an indication that you cannot honour your debts (or promissory notes). As you are unable to answer any question put to you, bankruptcy would seem to apply to you more than anyone else in this thread.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

I have evidence.

No, you don't. You have a misinterpreted subjective experience. That is not evidence. Get back to us when you have some real evidence.

 

[Loudmouth]

Try as you do, you cannot say the Spiritual Realm does not exist . . .

Your logical fallacy is . . .

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof

It becomes you who makes the empty assertion.

You are the one making the assertion that a Spiritual Realm exists. It is your burden to supply the evidence to support this claim.

I have evidence.

Then produce the evidence for all to see.

 

[Paulos23]

Try as you do, you cannot say the Spiritual Realm does not exist because You do not have the evidence. It becomes you who makes the empty assertion.

I have evidence. That makes you blind to a reality in our midst. So far all you have are words by sitting on the sidelines. Silly words that are temporal.

What evidence? You have yet to show it all you have claimed so far is subjective, not objective evidence.

Until you can give evidence for the spirtiral realm you can't claim it exists and expect us to disprove it. I can claim there is a dragon in my garage, but I don't expect you to execpt that until I show you the dragon.

Extronary claims require extronary evidence.

 

[Cearbhall]

Like many others on this forum, you are quite unaware of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. You lack such experience in this life.

I'd have to agree, since I no longer think it exists.

What exactly do you mean by baptism, anyway?

Try as you do, you cannot say the Spiritual Realm does not exist because You do not have the evidence. It becomes you who makes the empty assertion.

I'll be sure to use that line the next time someone tells me unicorns don't exist.

 

[Heissonear]

Your logical fallacy is . . .

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof

You are the one making the assertion that a Spiritual Realm exists. It is your burden to supply the evidence to support this claim.

Then produce the evidence for all to see.

Your fallback is blindness.

If you can't see the Spiritual Realm it doesn't exist.

You confine "evidence" to be physical empirical evidence, but it is Spiritual Revelation - through Power of the Holy Spirit.

Your logical falicy is for your Naturalistic condition for obtaining evidence. Pretty dim. You just don't get it.

 

[Cearbhall]

Your logical falicy is for your Naturalistic condition for obtaining evidence. Pretty dim. You just don't get it.

No, we just don't understand why we should give special consideration to one belief. I doubt you tell people that they shouldn't say "Santa Claus doesn't exist" or "Unicorns don't exist" just because they don't have evidence against those concepts. I'm personally an agnostic atheist, but I don't see why a straight-up atheist should feel any obligation to use language that waffles between "It doesn't exist" and "I don't know if it exists."

 

[Heissonear]

No, you don't. You have a misinterpreted subjective experience. That is not evidence. Get back to us when you have some real eis no evidence"idence.

Naturalists call the shots, don't they? You nicely set aside the work of the Holy Spirit in opening peoples eyes. You count His work as nothing.

"There is no evidence" is what you claim from those taught by the Holy Spirit. You deny there is a Baptism of the Holy Spirit. You say the Baptism does not exist. You say the Baptism is not from Heaven, from the Spiritual Realm, but it is all in a person's head.

This is arrogance, claiming man's "emperical" word over God's revealed word. And you nicely set aside His work from Heaven. You make His work equal zero.


I Corinthians 2:10. “For to us God revealed them through the Spirit"

I Corinthians 2:13. “taught by the Spirit"


You nicely set aside the work of the Spirit of God in people, and make His word that comes from the Spiritual Realm equal zero.

 

[AV1611VET]

You nicely set aside the work of the Spirit of God in people, and make His word that comes from the Spiritual Realm equal zero.

Hopefully he won't get set aside in the end.

Matthew 25:33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.