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[Searching_for_Christ]

Ordain Women Now | In the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod






I don't understand...why not just move off to the ELCA, it would seem that special interest groups would like to see ALL change. I don't understand fighting for something, thats already been fought and won in other Churches...just leave and go there instead if you ask me.

 

[Aibrean]

Better off making a new synod altogether.

I'm sure that most of the LCMS people (if that ever happened) would leave for WELS.

Edit: just posted on their facebook page. Let's see how long it stays before they delete it...

 

[Searching_for_Christ]

I wouldn't want to leave for wels, and that's because I get the impression that they are not as liturgical. Course that's probably just a misconception

 

[Luther073082]

I don't think this is the view of the majority of the LCMS. Although I think those that do belive this really aught to consider a different synod. The ELCA. . . ok don't like gay marriage? NALC or LCMC. . .

Go to the synod that fits your views don't try to change the views of a synod that doesn't agree with you.

 

[DaRev]

Better yet, go to a church that believes and teaches the word of God and not the opinion of Man.

 

[omajoy]

I wouldn't want to leave for wels, and that's because I get the impression that they are not as liturgical. Course that's probably just a misconception

You would choose a synod that allows women to be ordained over a less high-church liturgy? That seems strange. I am WELS, and we do have liturgy every service. We may not be EO, but really.....

 

[Searching_for_Christ]

Unman no I wouldn't stay in the synod. I would probably push for my church to leave.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

I wouldn't want to leave for wels, and that's because I get the impression that they are not as liturgical. Course that's probably just a misconception

And quite! WELS is very liturgical. A church doesn't have to be high-church to be liturgical.

 

[Searching_for_Christ]

My church isn't high church weighed tho I wish it was, that's not my priority. I LOVE the liturgy, but for some reason I had in mind that wels services where more Protestant for some reason. Sorry, I still have lots to learn lol.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

My church isn't high church weighed tho I wish it was, that's not my priority. I LOVE the liturgy, but for some reason I had in mind that wels services where more Protestant for some reason. Sorry, I still have lots to learn lol.

Of course you'll find some churches in the WELS that aren't overly liturgical...but for the most part, we like our services traditional and liturgical with pipe organs and whatnot. I kinow that most of the pastors I know tend to avoid the high church stuff because sometimes it smacks a bit of legalism. There's also a core group of pastors within the WELS who like to look down on the rest of the churches who aren't high church (then again, there's also a core group of pastors who want contemporary worship in every church!!)

It can be a mixed bag but by and large, WELS are conservative and liturgical. Some WELS churches have communion every week, some have it every other week, some use individual cups and/or common cups and some just use the common cup. I would bet that a lot of the "protestant complaints" would be more directed at the churches who don't offer communion every week and/or who use individual cups.

I'd encourage you to go to more WELS services. If there aren't any around you (and I know you've talked about this before) I've got some great ones that stream their services online. It's always good to want to learn!!

 

[lutherans]

There was a pretty good post on OWN from the missionalLutherans blog, and what makes dialogue on this issue difficult ( I can't post a link here because I don't have enough posts yet ).

 

[Studeclunker]

Interesting line of converstation. Especially considering the OT. I find it very interesting that most ELCA congregations are liturgical and High Church in their (traditional) services. Yet the denomination has completely jumped the Christian pales. Now I see a pattern similar to the ELCA's fall occuring in the LCMS. First the liberalizing Church Growth Movement, in this case the Ablaze movement, then the demand for ordaining women. Interesting... It will be even more interesting to see how the Church's hirearchy deals with the relentless hammering on the gates from these vixens of Hell.

 

[omajoy]

I thought of this thread while I was sitting in church on Christmas Day morning. I was at my daughter's WELS church. They had a processional cross, some Latin liturgy, and Holy Communion.....interestingly, the local LCMS church had a sign out front that said "no Christmas Day services." I felt badly for that congregation.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

I thought of this thread while I was sitting in church on Christmas Day morning. I was at my daughter's WELS church. They had a processional cross, some Latin liturgy, and Holy Communion.....interestingly, the local LCMS church had a sign out front that said "no Christmas Day services." I felt badly for that congregation.

No offense to those churches that didn't offer Christmas Day services but I would definitely rethink my membership in a church that didn't offer them.

We felt bad enough for canceling services last year when the weather was super bad!

 

[QuiltAngel]

Let it be known that that particular church is not representative of the LCMS. All the churches around here had Christmas Day services. We had to "cancel Christmas" two years ago and that just did not seem right at all.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Let it be known that that particular church is not representative of the LCMS. All the churches around here had Christmas Day services. We had to "cancel Christmas" two years ago and that just did not seem right at all.

I know what you mean!!

 

[Aibrean]

We had a Christmas day service and it was wonderful It was also very full (although that occured within 5 minutes before service start.

We are going to go to the New Years Eve service instead of day this coming weekend though (they do have a Sunday service), but there will be a full service with communion.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

We had a Christmas day service and it was wonderful It was also very full (although that occured within 5 minutes before service start.

We are going to go to the New Years Eve service instead of day this coming weekend though (they do have a Sunday service), but there will be a full service with communion.

We have both a New Year's Eve and a New Year's Day but the day one is just because it's a Sunday. I will be playing organ for the Eve service but our scheduling system at work puked and gave me an opening shift for the 1st. After working for a week trying to find someone to cover me, my scheduler begged if I would just work the shift. Since I have a full service on New Year's Eve, I told them I would do it. But if they ever schedule me again on a Sunday morning they're going to get an earful.

 

[QuiltAngel]

We normally have a New Year's Eve service with communion. Since New Year's is on Sunday, we will be having worship then too

That is a bummer Beckie that you are going to have to work Sunday morning.

 

[QuiltAngel]

Interesting line of converstation. Especially considering the OT. I find it very interesting that most ELCA congregations are liturgical and High Church in their (traditional) services. Yet the denomination has completely jumped the Christian pales. Now I see a pattern similar to the ELCA's fall occuring in the LCMS. First the liberalizing Church Growth Movement, in this case the Ablaze movement, then the demand for ordaining women. Interesting... It will be even more interesting to see how the Church's hirearchy deals with the relentless hammering on the gates from these vixens of Hell.

Synod is standing firm on the issue of Women's Ordination. The people who are calling for "discussion" don't really want to discuss, nor do they have anything Biblical behind them. The only type of discussion they want is that everyone agree with them and that Synod change for a few. Not going to happen. Also, most of the pressure on this issue is coming from outside the LCMS although there are some in the LCMS who are a part of this. You look at that Facebook page and the support for women's ordination is only a few people, who are from other churches whereas the opposition is from the LCMS.