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Blackjack and Design

What applies to the blackjack anecdote?

  • The two hands were a natural occurrence.

  • There was a designer that somehow influenced the outcome.

  • God did it.

  • Some sort of cheese related explanation.....


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crjmurray

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I have not seen enough of your position to know what it is. Being a Deist according to crjmurray is not something I know about.

Again, my beliefs have nothing to do with the topics I'm trying to discuss. You're projecting your inability to separate your religious beliefs from reality onto others.
 
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crjmurray

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I wanted to show that your idea of complex and the complexity that is found in life is not even comparable.

I find many things complex but they are exceedingly simple when compared with the complexity we find in one cell.

You've shown evasiveness and special pleading.
 
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Again, my beliefs have nothing to do with the topics I'm trying to discuss. You're projecting your inability to separate your religious beliefs from reality onto others.

So why do you have design in the OP title?:doh:
 
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So why do you have design in the OP title?:doh:

I've been wondering that too.

If a pair of Aces demonstrates design because of the chances of they showing up like that, then any two cards should show design, since their chances are the same.
 
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Really? What special pleading? Where have I evaded? I didn't answer one question and asked one of you and I am evading? This is comical.:D

It is special pleading to say that other complex systems can be explained by natural mechanisms but life is just too darn complex so therefore God.

Your posts are the best evidence of your evasiveness so I'll let them stand on their own.
 
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I've been wondering that too.

If a pair of Aces demonstrates design because of the chances of they showing up like that, then any two cards should show design, since their chances are the same.

I would think if one puts Design in the mix that God talk will be involved. :doh:
 
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I've been wondering that too.

If a pair of Aces demonstrates design because of the chances of they showing up like that, then any two cards should show design, since their chances are the same.

This confusion is probably better than any point I could have made. You guys see no design in the example because why would you? But when it comes to biology well of course its all designed! It's just so complex it can't possibly be anything other than some super special design!
 
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It is special pleading to say that other complex systems can be explained by natural mechanisms but life is just too darn complex so therefore God.

No it isn't. How is my claim asking for a different standard of evidence or that the evidence be modified or reversed?
Your posts are the best evidence of your evasiveness so I'll let them stand on their own.

Ok, you do that.:)
 
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This confusion is probably better than any point I could have made. You guys see no design in the example because why would you? But when it comes to biology well of course its all designed! It's just so complex it can't possibly be anything other than some super special design!

The "design" in blackjack are on the cards and the instructions to the game, and have nothing to do with how the cards fall.

Both the printing on the cards and the written instructions come from an intelligent source.
 
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The "design" in blackjack are on the cards and the instructions to the game, and have nothing to do with how the cards fall.

Both the printing on the cards and the written instructions come from an intelligent source.

Very good point.
 
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The "design" in blackjack are on the cards and the instructions to the game, and have nothing to do with how the cards fall.

Both the printing on the cards and the written instructions come from an intelligent source.

If two cards get married, do they have card offspring that are slightly different copies of their parent cards?
 
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