JM said:
Following rmwilliamsll lead, I thought I’d ask what the first impressions of the Reformed/Presbyterian Church was, from our brothers and sisters of colour? My wife is black and is having a hard time feeling comfortable as we move and fellowship more often with Reformed folks, she is always the only person of colour, and is having a hard time adjusting.
Any thoughts? We attended a few Dutch Reformed Churches up here in Canada and both of us were made to feel welcomed, getting over the shoulder glances, and no one even spoke to us. Has anyone else experienced this? I understand this isn't a "Reformed" Church problem, but that's where my wife and I are headed, just thought I'd ask.
Well I don't have any specific suggestions, but if this serves as any encouragment, my church is Reformed Baptist, and we are quite multicultural. In fact, we specifically strive to integrate as many ethnic groups into our church as possible. I, as a racial minority (Eastern Indian) have felt quite comfortable here. So there certainly are ethnically diverse Reformed churches out there.
Turn'D-OuT-DiffurnT vbmenu_register("postmenu_22491689" said:
For the sake of argument, first off...would that biblical reality necessarily be any less if intermarriage were prohibited? In other words, is it impossible for all races/nations to be (spiritual) brothers and sisters in Christ if they abstain from mixing, either voluntarily or not? You don't believe that intermarriage is mandatory, do you? What about disapproval of intermarriage? Some people do disapprove, and they feel that the scriptures commonly cited in favor are misinterpreted and/or wrenched out of context. Assuming that you'll never be brought around to their views, what is to be done with those people?
I have honestly never understood the Biblical argument against interracial marriage. In fact, it seems plainly obvious to me that the Scriptures make no such prohibition, neither in the Old nor New Testaments. Such a person who believed these things would have to explain such things as the "mixed" marriages of Moses and Ruth, as well as the many New Testament commands that Jew and Gentile be integrated into one body of Christ (keeping in mind that the one Apostolic commandment against mixed marriages refers specifically to marriage between believers and unbelievers).
Of course, that wasn't your question. I understand that you are asking what ought to be done with Christians who believe that interracial marriage is not in accordance with Scripture. I know that you didn't specifically ask me, but I hope you do not mind my providing a response as well.
Christians who oppose interracial marriage do not properly understand the doctrine of justification by faith. I would suggest that such a person read Galatians 2:11-16, and ask himself "do I also draw away from different people for fear of the 'circumcision party?'" I would suggest that we deal with these Christians by being motivated by love to challenge their beliefs, and by forcing them to reconcile these doctrines with Scripture.
Let us make no mistake: opposition to interracial marriage is racism. Let us not call it a "different persuasion," or a "genuine, Biblical conviction," or any other name which paints this doctrine as anything but unbiblical. For all the talk of racial segregation being God's law, I have yet to see a Biblical justification of this belief which does not utilize eisegesis of such passages as Deuteronomy 23:2, cultural biases, and sometimes even the heresy of evolutionary biology.
Are we to revile Christians who believe this way? No, we are not to revile anyone. At the same time, by no means should this be considered a disputable matter. I believe that we should respond to these people by continuing to preach the Gospel of justification by faith to them. I do not believe that a person who believes in any racial separation within the church is truly displaying love towards his brother. We cannot be "separate but equal," because this strategy has already proven itself a failure. In short, a person who opposes interracial marriage within the church is not living in step with the Gospel.