Birth Control

[GreenEyedLady]

Hello people.
I wonder what are your personal convictions about birth control?
Also, someone told me in here along time ago about a christian doctor who would do reverse vasectomies on men. It was his ministry.
Anyone know?
GEL

 

[Ave Maria]

I have no problem with it. In fact, I see using birth control as being responsible.

 

[ZiSunka]

As long as abortion is not being used as the birth control, as long as the birth control prevents ovulation or fertilization and no conception takes place, then I don't know any reason to have a problem with it. Several years ago when I was engaged, I learned natural family planning and really think it's a great system, but it's not for every marriage so if other forms of BC are agreed upon by wife and husband, I don't see how we should object.

 

[eutychus]

I think an opinion pivots from these two points:
1. Does procreation trump pleasure in God's intention for sex?
2. What barriers should we create with advanced technology and medicine?

With that said, currently I'm against birth control. Even if my position does change in the future, I'm definitely against the pill, as it can be an abortive agent after conception, unbeknownst to the woman. That's why I'm hoping that my child-rearing hips have no connection with the fertility.

 

[BT]

I agree with Lambslove. I agree with birth control if it is prevention (blockage) and not correction (unimplanting). There are some horrible drugs out there including (I think it's called) RU47 - the morning after pill...

My wife used to take the birth-control pill, and it was only last year that we found out that the pill will not only prevent ovulation but will actually cause an abortion of sorts by deimplanting a fertilized egg should ovulation occur. I'm not a doctor or anything so I don't have all the facts on hand but I know that what I just said is the jist of it. And for that reason we refuse to use the pill any longer... There are other ways of contraception that don't include a fail-safe like that. So now the only kind that I would agree with is the blocking kind...

 

[Ailanthus]

Is there a blocking kind in pill form? My wife and I also decided to stop using birth control pills because it is an abortive agent. Meanwhile, two babies later, we're still looking for a type of birth control that is effective, but doesn't go against our moral values.

 

[aReformedPatriot]

I never knew that it had abortive effects. I use to for it, for various reasons but Its not worth the risk.

 

[danclang]

For it. Love it.

 

[Ave Maria]

I agree with Lambslove. I agree with birth control if it is prevention (blockage) and not correction (unimplanting). There are some horrible drugs out there including (I think it's called) RU47 - the morning after pill...

My wife used to take the birth-control pill, and it was only last year that we found out that the pill will not only prevent ovulation but will actually cause an abortion of sorts by deimplanting a fertilized egg should ovulation occur. I'm not a doctor or anything so I don't have all the facts on hand but I know that what I just said is the jist of it. And for that reason we refuse to use the pill any longer... There are other ways of contraception that don't include a fail-safe like that. So now the only kind that I would agree with is the blocking kind...

No, it's RU-486 and it is an abortion pill. The morning after pill is simply a birth control pill in higher dosage which is used in case current birth control fails. It is not meant to be used as a frequent method of birth control but is meant for emergencies such as when other birth control fails. More info:

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/RU-486

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Morning%20After%20Pill

Just thought I'd let you know. God Bless!

 

[GreenEyedLady]

What about allowing God to have control in our lives?
Are we saying "Lord may it be YOUR will!" When we prevent having children?
Back in the days, they had no choice. Conception was a blessing not a curse.
Do you think we treat it like a curse? How many in here view it as a blessing?

Psalms 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.

Are we rejecting our rewards? What if God wants us to have more children in order for those children to glorify Him and do His will and we are saying no!
GEL

 

[DiscipleOfIAm]

As long as abortion is not the form of birth control, go for it. I think in our time, it is being responsible in a marriage to utilize birth control. Otherwise, we'd end up with 50 kids and no money to care for them. Our population isn't suffering and we don't need to produce to survive. Therefore, I feel it is responsible behaviour.

Now, there are those who feel that God will dictate when the gift of a child is given and by using birth control we are interfering. But, I'm not one to go along with that. We can't interfere with God, He creates all things and decides when things happen. If He wants us to have a baby, we will, whether we use birth control or not. Maybe, He'll speak to us and give us the conviction to get off birth control and get pregnant or maybe the birth control will fail. His will, not mine!

God Bless

 

[AJ]

I don't have a problem with a married couple using birth control... Of course abortion is murder in my book, so that is not an option.

Birth control pills can be used as a "morning after" pill... But it requires a much higher dose. Most pills would require you to take 3-5 pills at the same time. Taking your regular daily dose should prevent ovulation... and if for some reason it doesn't (ie: taking antiboitics) then continuing to take the pill in it's normal daily dose would not normally cause an abortion. In the pre-morning after pill world, it was fairly common for a doctor to tell their patient who "missed a pill" and had sex to just take a double or triple dose "to be safe". In essence, what they were doing is prescribing a morning after pill dose that would induce an abortion. The morning after pill doesn't do anything that higher doses of normal birth control pills couldn't do already.

Anyhow... God intended married couples to enjoy the pleasures of sex. I don't see responsible use of birth control as something non-biblical.

God Bless!
AJ

 

[danclang]

What about allowing God to have control in our lives?
Are we saying "Lord may it be YOUR will!" When we prevent having children?
Back in the days, they had no choice. Conception was a blessing not a curse.
Do you think we treat it like a curse? How many in here view it as a blessing?

Psalms 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.

Are we rejecting our rewards? What if God wants us to have more children in order for those children to glorify Him and do His will and we are saying no!
GEL

Wow, firstly free will is above all the blessings we receive. Because if there's no free will my worship of God is puppetry. Along that line of logic, I am blessed with what God has given my family. So in order for us to be able to do God's work, it's our duty to be good stewards. This means to me and my wife, carefully planning for our family.

 

[Ave Maria]

What about allowing God to have control in our lives?
Are we saying "Lord may it be YOUR will!" When we prevent having children?
Back in the days, they had no choice. Conception was a blessing not a curse.
Do you think we treat it like a curse? How many in here view it as a blessing?

Psalms 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.

Are we rejecting our rewards? What if God wants us to have more children in order for those children to glorify Him and do His will and we are saying no!
GEL

Well, in all honesty, I don't think God has a problem with choosing when to have a baby and when not to have a baby. I mean, He did give us free will.

As for the ancients, well, there have pretty much always existed some kind of birth control. In fact, the Ancient Egyptians made the first condom out of papyrus sheets.

Wow, firstly free will is above all the blessings we receive. Because if there's no free will my worship of God is puppetry. Along that line of logic, I am blessed with what God has given my family. So in order for us to be able to do God's work, it's our duty to be good stewards. This means to me and my wife, carefully planning for our family.

Amen!

 

[Monica02]

Birth control pills can be used as a "morning after" pill... But it requires a much higher dose. Most pills would require you to take 3-5 pills at the same time. Taking your regular daily dose should prevent ovulation... and if for some reason it doesn't (ie: taking antiboitics) then continuing to take the pill in it's normal daily dose would not normally cause an abortion. In the pre-morning after pill world, it was fairly common for a doctor to tell their patient who "missed a pill" and had sex to just take a double or triple dose "to be safe". In essence, what they were doing is prescribing a morning after pill dose that would induce an abortion. The morning after pill doesn't do anything that higher doses of normal birth control pills couldn't do already.

God Bless!
AJ

The birth control pill can , in fact, work as an abortofacient. Its main mechanism is to prevent ovulation but it can also stop a fertilized egg from implanting. The definition of pregnant has morphed from begining at fertiliztion to beginging at implantation so a doctor could in good conscience tell a couple that the pill does not cause abortions.

 

[TwinCrier]

I became personally convicted after studying scripture that birth control is not God's will. If children are blessings from God, we should covet God's blessings, not try to avoid them until we feel WE are ready or WE have enough money. It seems some people have become convinced that not using birth control will force God to give them 20 children yet not obligate this same God to provide for all their needs as promised. I have been unable to rconcile birth control to the bible in any way.

 

[TwinCrier]

Anyhow... God intended married couples to enjoy the pleasures of sex. I don't see responsible use of birth control as something non-biblical.

God Bless!
AJ

But sex is just as pleasurable, usually more so, when birth control is NOT used. Plus you have a better chance of being blessed with children.

 

[GreenEyedLady]

Wow, firstly free will is above all the blessings we receive. Because if there's no free will my worship of God is puppetry. Along that line of logic, I am blessed with what God has given my family. So in order for us to be able to do God's work, it's our duty to be good stewards. This means to me and my wife, carefully planning for our family.

In this post and the next one i see words such as planning and control.
I dunno. I just see no faith in planning or when you have control over something.
As far as Egyptians, they were never looked at as "Godly".

I am not saying that God has a problem. What i am saying is that we can hardly say we are crucifying our selves in this department if we have control over it.
Where does our faith lay in all of this? Where is faith when one is "planning" thier family?
What about vasectomys and tubal ligation? Do you think God has a problem with this?
GEL

 

[DiscipleOfIAm]

I became personally convicted after studying scripture that birth control is not God's will. If children are blessings from God, we should covet God's blessings, not try to avoid them until we feel WE are ready or WE have enough money. It seems some people have become convinced that not using birth control will force God to give them 20 children yet not obligate this same God to provide for all their needs as promised. I have been unable to rconcile birth control to the bible in any way.

I like what you've said here. Convincing my wife would be a different subject. Where in the Bible can you direct me to these subjects? I would like to read over them, study them, and pray about them. My wife and I have always wanted 4 or 5 kids, but after the second one, we are having doubts. She is quite a handfull, where as the first one was a 24 hour angel.

Anyway, didn't the churches of today only recently accept birth control. Before the 1900's wasn't it not allowed and looked upon as sin? I know the official Catholic Church stance is against it and so were most Protestant and non-catholic churches until recently.

God Bless

 

[BT]

The birth control pill can , in fact, work as an abortofacient. Its main mechanism is to prevent ovulation but it can also stop a fertilized egg from implanting. The definition of pregnant has morphed from begining at fertiliztion to beginging at implantation so a doctor could in good conscience tell a couple that the pill does not cause abortions.

Right which is why we refuse "the pill"... thanks for clearing that up.