Bipolar questions

[cac]

I can understand where goldenviolet is coming from as I have bipolar disorder and suffer the same sorts of things, I havent had an outburst since 1999 but i do still get really moody at times, my mind races, i pace the floor, I actually see ghost's at times, I get twitchy muscles, back when i had my outburst i remember feeling drunk after. I also have learning disabilities cant concentrate well at all, dont comprehend well and math, forget it. I also have cerebral fluid built up on my brain and part of my brain around the temperal lobe never developed, but i dont give up, I keep right on going.

 

[GodsNhilist]

hello...
i hope you stay around in the recovery areas to encourage!

very good post. but we too are not talking about the 'devil', but not living disaplined. which absolutely can be NOT taking your perscribed meds or getting therepy/support (i'm one guilty of missing med doses). we are mainly attempting to discuss a balance of needs, spiritually, nuerologically, and physically... and some different interpetations for our person struggles with bipolar. the thread got abit uncomfortable because no one wanted to be lumped into 'you brought it on yourself' etc. ... and questions were upsetting (we can be emotionally easy to bump), and more importantantly i think; everyone wants to make sure our forum doesn't get invaded by intense, preachy, discouraging threads.

every person on this thread who was 'bumped' has been trying (quite warmfuzzily

) to show respect and sencerity.

Thanks Golden Violet,

I'd like to stick around. I won't discredit the value of faith and prayer, but on other threads I've seen people try and preach that it can replace meds. I think we know differently.

About remembering your meds, do you use a pill organizer? I absolutely HAVE to. I have skipped, taken a double dose, maybe even triple. I find I am groggy in the morning before my morning meds (because of the bedtime mood stabolizer) and I haven't a clue what I'm doing. My hubby ran out and got me one after an episode of mania brought on by a double (maybe triple) dose of morning Effexor. Yikes!
Now I just have to double check my little box and the day and I know if I have taken it or not. It really helps.

 

[vibrant]

Ok, first let me say that this is a biological disease with requires treatment. I speak from my own experience because I have BP2 and spent many years cycling through hypomania and major depression.

If mania or depression is untreated and becomes severe, it can become psychotic. The devil is not involved. It has to do with brain chemistry gone out of control.

BP1 is more severe, with full blown mania. BP2 involves hypomania and mixed-state and to date there is no absolute cure for Bipolar Disorder.

But there is hope. I am not refuting the added value of prayer, but therapy and mood stabolizers and sometimes antidepressants are the only way to control it to date. People with BP often have long periods of remission or hypomania, during which they are functional and may feel that they are cured. However, relapse is inevitable.

Mania can lead to high risk behaviour, impulsivity, devastating manic spending sprees and psychosis.

Depression can lead to suicide.

Please do not substitute prayer alone for individuals with this MI. With therapy and medication, I have obtained a degree, a diploma in computer networking, many certifications and a career in IT. Without meds and therapy this would not have been possible.

amen. without an understanding of psychosis...

 

[IKTCA]

Thanks Golden Violet,

I'd like to stick around. I won't discredit the value of faith and prayer, but on other threads I've seen people try and preach that it can replace meds. I think we know differently.

About remembering your meds, do you use a pill organizer? I absolutely HAVE to. I have skipped, taken a double dose, maybe even triple. I find I am groggy in the morning before my morning meds (because of the bedtime mood stabolizer) and I haven't a clue what I'm doing. My hubby ran out and got me one after an episode of mania brought on by a double (maybe triple) dose of morning Effexor. Yikes!
Now I just have to double check my little box and the day and I know if I have taken it or not. It really helps.

You are a man and you have someone you call hubby? Would you clarify? Are you using his computer?

Rupert

 

[GodsNhilist]

You are a man and you have someone you call hubby? Would you clarify? Are you using his computer?

Rupert

Lets not turn this into yet another homosexual thread please. I am a gay man and legally married. I live in Canada where such things exist.

 

[I'ddie4him2]

I'd like to stick around. I won't discredit the value of faith and prayer, but on other threads I've seen people try and preach that it can replace meds. I think we know differently.

I have had BP2 since I was a child.
I was misdiagnosed as hyper as a kid.
I am a rapid cycler, Currently take 1500 mgs of Lithium a day to keep things in check.

I know of the feelings all to well of being angry when people preach that reading the Bible will help.

Balderdash.

BP is a chemical imbalance in the brain, Not something that God can easily cure for us.
I can appreciate the thought and feelings that go into posts about this, But, Unless one KNOWS the facts, There words are sometimes not of much value to those of us who suffer daily.

 

[IKTCA]

In most threads, the first post sets the tone. It is clear that it was not accepted by all. Not only that, it even alienated a few of us. I apologize again.

I was going to close this thread but noticed online huggings going back and forth. I shouldn't close the thread now and interrupt the friendly exchange.

So I ask you, unless there is a burning issue to be discussed now, to leave this unattended. I will eventually discard the thread. Thank you.

Rupert

This was Post Number 27.
Now, if you don't have burning issues, let us close it. As I asked previously, please leave this thread unattended. I will eventually discard it.

Rupert

 

[Truly Blessed]

In most threads, the first post sets the tone. It is clear that it was not accepted by all. Not only that, it even alienated a few of us. I apologize again.

I was going to close this thread but noticed online huggings going back and forth. I shouldn't close the thread now and interrupt the friendly exchange.

So I ask you, unless there is a burning issue to be discussed now, to leave this unattended. I will eventually discard the thread. Thank you.

Rupert

It is the policy of CF not to support homosexuality, and as a staff, I am bound by the policy. I ask you not to post here.

Rupert
Moderator

Well, now that you are the op and you brought it up and since you simply asked people not to post and not demand people not to post. - I feel compled to post and to ask the question - Which rule is being broken since you are telling somebody in public they cant post here. Did the person say they dont believe in the NC?

 

[Truly Blessed]

Friends,
I am not bipolar. I have a close friend who is bipolar. He explains to me what goes through his mind during the high and low cycles. I have also read internet articles on bipolar, I and II. I have also read the posts here. I have a few questions.

Aggressive thoughts and behaviors, hurting our friends and family members. Lustful thoughts. Where are these coming from? Are these thoughts within us and just pop? Are we that evil? We, who call ourselves Christians, have evil thoughts residing within us? Is the blood of Christ Jesus of no value? I don't think so. We are not evil. The blood of Christ Jesus keeps us from being hosts of evil thoughts and deeds.

I believe the ungodly thoughts come from the devil. He is taking advantage of our chemical imbalance, and deceives us to believe that the ungodly thougts are within us, and that chemical imbalance is the culprit. While we are not quite ourselves because of brain chemistry, the devil is deceiving us to accept his ungodly thoughts as our own.

Eventually, each of us will have to stand before God. All our hidden secrets will be revealed. When God asks us about the ungodly thoughts and deeds, can we say, "Our chemical imbalance was the culprit?" It would be equivalent to saying, "God, because you did not heal our chemical imbalance, we had ungodly thoughts and did ungodly deeds. It is your fault, not ours." Will God say, "Yes, it is my fault?"

Friends,
How great a price do we pay because of the deception? Because we believe the evil resides within us, we fall in severe depression and unberable condemnation. If we knew the evil came from outside, we would put up a fight, rather than slupmping in defeat and falling in depression, for we are God's even with chemical imbalance.

Rupert

So moods about outstanding enjoyment in Christ is of the devil. While at the same time severe moods of depression is of the devil.

All though Christ may be in all of us. We ALL Sin.

Do you have a Degree in mental health?

I am offended.

 

[IKTCA]

My deepest apology to you.

Rupert

This thread is closed.

 

[Deamiter]

This thread will remain closed for the reasons IKTCA already mentioned. Further discussion of Bipolar Disorder is encouraged elsewhere.

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