Biden's tobacco survey asks kids about their gender identity, sexual orientation

[HARK!]

The Biden administration’s National Tobacco Youth Survey for 2023 asks middle and high-school students to disclose their sexual orientation and whether or not they are questioning their gender identity.


The survey is distributed annually by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and Prevention’s Office on Smoking and Health to gauge the progress of “comprehensive tobacco prevention and control programs” for youth in the U.S., according to the CDC website. In 2020, changes were made to include a question asking if any students identified as gay, lesbian, bisexual or “something else,” according to documents from the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB).

Biden's tobacco survey asks kids about their gender identity, sexual orientation

The Biden administration’s National Tobacco Youth Survey for 2023 asks middle and high-school students to disclose their sexual orientation and whether or not they are questioning their gender identity.

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[Gene2memE]

Seems like the CDC did this in 2020 (during the Trump Administration) to match changes made to the Youth Risk Behavior Survey made during/before 2015 (during the Obama Administration).

"The proposed question to assess sexual orientation for the 2021 NYTS was previously approved and subsequently used on the 2020 NYTS survey. This question wording came directly from the Youth Risk Behavior Survey (YRBS), which has assessed sexual orientation using this question since 2015 and most recently fielded it in 2019.1,2 This question was cognitively tested by CDC among a sample of youth prior to fielding the survey. CDC would prefer to maintain this question as is to allow greater comparability in this measure across NYTS survey years (2020-2021) and to allow comparability between these youth-focused surveys (NYTS and YRBS)."

Source: SOGI Questions Justification - OMB 0920-0621

2020 NYST, question 116:
Question Universe: all students
116. Which of the following best describes you?
A. Heterosexual (straight)
B. Gay or Lesbian
C. Bisexual
D. Not Sure

Source: https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/surveys/nyts/pdfs/2020/2020-NYTS-Questionnaire-508.pdf

2021 NYST, question 156:

Question Universe: all students
Some people describe themselves as transgender when their sex at birth does not match the way
they think or feel about their gender. Are you transgender?
A. No, I am not transgender
B. Yes, I am transgender
C. I am not sure if I am transgender
D. I do not know what this question is asking

Source: https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/surveys/nyts/pdfs/2021-NYTS-Questionnaire.pdf

It doesn't seem like something the "Biden administration" did. I'm not even sure why you'd reference the Biden Administration at all, unless it was just a political point scoring exercise?

 

[Bradskii]

I'm not even sure why you'd reference the Biden Administration at all, unless it was just a political point scoring exercise?

People do this? I'm shocked. Shocked, I say.

 

[YorkieGal]

Is this so they can see if they need to add more hormone disruptors to the tobacco? I don't see what the relevance of the question is..

Also, if a government survey comes my way, off to the trash can it goes!

 

[Gene2memE]

Is this so they can see if they need to add more hormone disruptors to the tobacco? I don't see what the relevance of the question is..

Because of a range of factors (most of them involving relief from or conformation with various social and psychological pressures), youth populations who don't fit the cisgender heterosexual norm tend to fall into higher risk categories for a number of behaviours. That includes using tobacco products.

As a general rule, LGBT youth are anywhere from two to four times more likely than heterosexual youth to report ongoing use of tobacco products.

When interviewed/surveyed about it, LGBT youth report that their primary reason for ongoing tobacco use was as an escape from social stigmatization or discrimination. Compared with their peers, they also report substantially greater amounts of tobacco advertising in the media they consume, greater rates of interaction with adult tobacco users and greater attendance at social venues/bars/clubs where tobacco use was accepted or permitted. All of this creates an environment where tobacco use is normalised.

More data is needed though, hence why information on sex/gender orientation is highly useful when included in youth tobacco surveys.

Also, if a government survey comes my way, off to the trash can it goes!

Yeah, who'd want to do something to help people make the lives of other better? Trash indeed...

 

[HARK!]

Also, if a government survey comes my way, off to the trash can it goes!

I don't do surveys. For that matter I generally don't answer personal questions asked by strangers. For that matter, I generally find personal questions to be offensive, If I want to volunteer personal information; I'll bring up the subject.

 

[YorkieGal]

Because of a range of factors (most of them involving relief from or conformation with various social and psychological pressures), youth populations who don't fit the cisgender heterosexual norm tend to fall into higher risk categories for a number of behaviours. That includes using tobacco products.

As a general rule, LGBT youth are anywhere from two to four times more likely than heterosexual youth to report ongoing use of tobacco products.

When interviewed/surveyed about it, LGBT youth report that their primary reason for ongoing tobacco use was as an escape from social stigmatization or discrimination. Compared with their peers, they also report substantially greater amounts of tobacco advertising in the media they consume, greater rates of interaction with adult tobacco users and greater attendance at social venues/bars/clubs where tobacco use was accepted or permitted. All of this creates an environment where tobacco use is normalised.

More data is needed though, hence why information on sex/gender orientation is highly useful when included in youth tobacco surveys.


Yeah, who'd want to do something to help people make the lives of other better? Trash indeed...

All nonsense.

Everyone wants to pretend that LGBT are some oppressed niche in society which are susceptible to anything and everything over and beyond 99% of the rest of the population.

Tobacco has been killing, indiscriminately, since it became corporate. LGBT aren't special in this regard.

 

[HARK!]

More data is needed though,

Some of us need to learn the difference between needs and wants.

 

[Gene2memE]

All nonsense.

Nah, all documented. Would you like to read some studies?

Everyone wants to pretend that LGBT are some oppressed niche in society which are susceptible to anything and everything over and beyond 99% of the rest of the population.

You're amazing! You can speak for EVERYONE!

Personally, while I see continual examples of discrimination against LGBT friends and acquaintances, I don't think they're "susceptible to anything and everything over and beyond 99% of the rest of the population."

I do, however, think that some of my LGBT friends are more likely than my non-LGBT friends to engage in certain risky behaviours. Such as smoking/vaping. Just like some of my non-LBGT friends are more likely to engage in a different set of risky behaviours.

Tobacco has been killing, indiscriminately, since it became corporate.

Tobacco has been killing LONG before it became corporate. Although cigarettes and the strategies invented to market/sell them to the general population have a particularly insidious history - look up the tactics employed by James Buchanan Duke and the American Tobacco Company, and modern Big Tobacco AFTER the smoking-cancer link was medically established.

I'd recommend 'The Cigarette Century' and 'The Devil's Playbook' as required reading on the topic. 'Merchants of Doubt' is also excellent, although it tells a wider story.

LGBT aren't special in this regard.

I never claimed they were. What I reported was that LGBT youth are 2-4 times more likely than their cisgender heterosexual peers to use tobacco products on an ongoing basis. And then I gave some explanations of why that happens to be the case.

 

[Gene2memE]

Some of us need to learn the difference between needs and wants.

If you want properly informed policy, data is NEEDED.

But, I guess we could continue to make policies based on ignorance. There's never been any issue with that...

 

[HARK!]

If you want properly informed policy, data is NEEDED.

But, I guess we could continue to make policies based on ignorance. There's never been any issue with that...

Or politicians could just stay out of my personal matters, and enforce their own policies on their own personal matters.

No one needs to datamine my personal matters so they can set policies on my personal matters.

Personal matters are personal.

Ambitious Authoritarians need to learn to separate their own personal needs, from their desires to pry into other people's personal affairs.

I have one word for these meddling busy bodies. Nunya!

 

[YorkieGal]

Nah, all documented. Would you like to read some studies?



You're amazing! You can speak for EVERYONE!

Personally, while I see continual examples of discrimination against LGBT friends and acquaintances, I don't think they're "susceptible to anything and everything over and beyond 99% of the rest of the population."

I do, however, think that some of my LGBT friends are more likely than my non-LGBT friends to engage in certain risky behaviours. Such as smoking/vaping. Just like some of my non-LBGT friends are more likely to engage in a different set of risky behaviours.



Tobacco has been killing LONG before it became corporate. Although cigarettes and the strategies invented to market/sell them to the general population have a particularly insidious history - look up the tactics employed by James Buchanan Duke and the American Tobacco Company, and modern Big Tobacco AFTER the smoking-cancer link was medically established.

I'd recommend 'The Cigarette Century' and 'The Devil's Playbook' as required reading on the topic. 'Merchants of Doubt' is also excellent, although it tells a wider story.



I never claimed they were. What I reported was that LGBT youth are 2-4 times more likely than their cisgender heterosexual peers to use tobacco products on an ongoing basis. And then I gave some explanations of why that happens to be the case.

bleah bleah - no disrespect but not buying it - all the best

 

[YorkieGal]

Or politicians could just stay out of my personal matters, and enforce their own policies on their own personal matters.

No one needs to datamine my personal matters so they can set policies on my personal matters.

Personal matters are personal.

Ambitious Authoritarians need to learn to separate their own personal needs, from their desires to pry into other people's personal affairs.

I have one word for these meddling busy bodies. Nunya!

Exactly. Data mining is exactly what's going on and people keep falling for it .... well, some.

 

[HARK!]

Exactly. Data mining is exactly what's going on and people keep falling for it .... well, some.

What many on the Left seem to fail to recognize, is some of the history surrounding Socialists when they gain the upper hand.

I've noticed a tendency for them to exterminate the homosexuals, shortly after they gain dominance.

In the past there wasn't a registry for homosexuals at the forefront of these sweeping exterminations. I imagine that they would have loved to have had those in place.

Could these questionnaires be a precursor to a registry?

Oh wait.....what was I thinking? They've already set one in place; and Homosexuals are fighting to get on it with their marriage licenses.

 

[Pommer]

Seems like the CDC did this in 2020 (during the Trump Administration) to match changes made to the Youth Risk Behavior Survey made during/before 2015 (during the Obama Administration).

"The proposed question to assess sexual orientation for the 2021 NYTS was previously approved and subsequently used on the 2020 NYTS survey. This question wording came directly from the Youth Risk Behavior Survey (YRBS), which has assessed sexual orientation using this question since 2015 and most recently fielded it in 2019.1,2 This question was cognitively tested by CDC among a sample of youth prior to fielding the survey. CDC would prefer to maintain this question as is to allow greater comparability in this measure across NYTS survey years (2020-2021) and to allow comparability between these youth-focused surveys (NYTS and YRBS)."

Source: SOGI Questions Justification - OMB 0920-0621

2020 NYST, question 116:
Question Universe: all students
116. Which of the following best describes you?
A. Heterosexual (straight)
B. Gay or Lesbian
C. Bisexual
D. Not Sure

Source: https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/surveys/nyts/pdfs/2020/2020-NYTS-Questionnaire-508.pdf

2021 NYST, question 156:

Question Universe: all students
Some people describe themselves as transgender when their sex at birth does not match the way
they think or feel about their gender. Are you transgender?
A. No, I am not transgender
B. Yes, I am transgender
C. I am not sure if I am transgender
D. I do not know what this question is asking

Source: https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/surveys/nyts/pdfs/2021-NYTS-Questionnaire.pdf

It doesn't seem like something the "Biden administration" did. I'm not even sure why you'd reference the Biden Administration at all, unless it was just a political point scoring exercise?

Look at how they put it right up front at questions 116 & 156! Clearly something is up!

How else might they estimate how many transgender lesbians there are who smoke (or vape) as a data set?

”They’re asking questions on a Questionnaire!”
Mercy!