Biden's Open Borders

[SimplyMe]

Those methods don't work when the 10 million illegal immigrants which came here in the Biden administration are spread out everywhere across our nation and are also being given sanctuary status by cities and states which are disobeying federal laws.

Which is why a bill was proposed during the Biden administration that would have helped a lot in reducing the backlog. Unfortunately, Republicans voted against it because they didn't want to give Biden the means to get rid of illegal immigrants.

 

[SimplyMe]

May I ask what methods of due process would you use for 10 million illegal immigrants?

The ones required by the Constitution and US Law. If you don't like those methods, then change the law (as I mention above, as was proposed in a bipartisan bill during the Biden administration that Trump told Republicans to vote against).

 

[Valletta]

What are these lawsuits Democrats have filed to prevent people from ever being deported? The ones I've seen are all to ensure the person is able to get due process before they are deported, with possibly returning a person that was deported or sent to an El Salvadoran prison without due process, and even without being convicted of a crime that has jail time as a punishment.

Instead, if I use your broad brush, it seems to me Republicans are in favor of violating the Constitution, where they can lock up and/or deport people without any type of due process.

We have seen the Constitution violated like never before under the Biden administration Election interference, the refusal of Joe Biden to enforce the border laws or the laws protecting Supreme Court justices, and many other instances. Many of the same leaders who brought the killers into our country and enabled human trafficking like never before in our country are now demanding "due process," demanding we look the other way from their violations of the border laws and now give each illegal extensive court hearings so they can stay here. We have recently seen violence against ICE by a Democrat Congresswoman. People who love our Republic have had enough. They're not going to let the country be taken, the illegals will be deported one way or another.

 

[BCP1928]

We have seen the Constitution violated like never before under the Biden administration Election interference, the refusal of Joe Biden to enforce the border laws or the laws protecting Supreme Court justices, and many other instances. Many of the same leaders who brought the killers into our country and enabled human trafficking like never before in our country are now demanding "due process," demanding we look the other way from their violations of the border laws and now give each illegal extensive court hearings so they can stay here. We have recently seen violence against ICE by a Democrat Congresswoman. People who love our Republic have had enough. They're not going to let the country be taken, the illegals will be deported one way or another.

"People who love our Republic,,," What a joke.

 

[Vambram]

Which is why a bill was proposed during the Biden administration that would have helped a lot in reducing the backlog. Unfortunately, Republicans voted against it because they didn't want to give Biden the means to get rid of illegal immigrants.

The Biden administration broke our laws and the proposed bill to fix what the Biden administration did still would have allowed thousands of illegal immigrants per week across & into our borders. That bill was worthless and weak.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Those methods don't work when the 10 million illegal immigrants which came here in the Biden administration are spread out everywhere across our nation and are also being given sanctuary status by cities and states which are disobeying federal laws.

In terms of the being spread out, that actually works better to avoid overwhelming the immigration and border security apparatus in a single place. If everyone of them were in San Diego, that would just grind things to a halt. (Parallelism, check it out.)

The DHS has units that compile estimates of border crossings, etc., can you provide a government statistics for a net +10 M person flow during 2021-2024? I've seen claims like this one made over and over, but nothing other than political rhetoric. The number of persons in the US illegally was in the 10-12 M range (total) rather steadily for the decade (or more) before that according to DHS statistics, where is the official statistic for what must now be about 20 M persons in the country illegally?

 

[wing2000]

Sen Murphy To Secretary Of Homeland Security Kristi Noem: Your Department Is Out Of Control​

Murphy slammed the administration for flagrantly ignoring money appropriated by Congress and the legal rights of immigrants, warning such actions undermine both the Constitution and the rule of law.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

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Hmm...That mean that in the first two years of his administration Biden deported 700,000 more people than Trump did in four years. Let's average that out.

Trump: 518,302 per year
Biden: 1,404,473 per year

As he was with most of his campaign promises, Trump was all talk, no action.

Shouldn't those of you who listen to him employ better critical thinking skills and remember everything he promised and didn't deliver?

The border was still open under the biden administration. Yes, Biden also deported a fraction of people who entered illegally, but it was a revolving door. Many illegals had admitted to being deported between 5 to 9 times during Biden's administration. Many of those numbers who were deported year after year were the same people just walking right back into the country after ICE dropped them off.

 

[Vambram]

Sen Murphy To Secretary Of Homeland Security Kristi Noem: Your Department Is Out Of Control​

Murphy slammed the administration for flagrantly ignoring money appropriated by Congress and the legal rights of immigrants, warning such actions undermine both the Constitution and the rule of law.

I don't care what that liberal Senator says. He is wrong.

 

[Hans Blaster]

I don't care what that liberal Senator says. He is wrong.

In what way is he wrong?

Is he wrong that DHS is about to run out of money because they are spending too fast?

Is he wrong because DHS isn't spending from one budget line item to pay for stuff under a different line item?

Do tell. Facts aren't about conservative or liberal.

 

[7thKeeper]

I don't care what that liberal Senator says. He is wrong.

And I'm sure you're able to point out how specifically they are wrong.

 

[SimplyMe]

The Biden administration broke our laws and the proposed bill to fix what the Biden administration did still would have allowed thousands of illegal immigrants per week across & into our borders. That bill was worthless and weak.

Yes, I've heard the Republican talking points over and over. The fact remains, Biden deported more people than Trump is currently doing. The "thousands of illegal immigrants" is false -- it was actually capping the number of asylum seekers, which is one of the complaints when it comes to the huge backlog faced by immigration judges. After the 5,000, all other asylum seekers would be turned away, to prevent the system from being so overwhelmed. Even better, it would have changed the law to allow screening of asylum claims to provide quicker processing, which would have turned away many, and likely most, of those attempting to make asylum claims.

 

[Valletta]

Yes, I've heard the Republican talking points over and over. The fact remains, Biden deported more people than Trump is currently doing. The "thousands of illegal immigrants" is false -- it was actually capping the number of asylum seekers, which is one of the complaints when it comes to the huge backlog faced by immigration judges. After the 5,000, all other asylum seekers would be turned away, to prevent the system from being so overwhelmed. Even better, it would have changed the law to allow screening of asylum claims to provide quicker processing, which would have turned away many, and likely most, of those attempting to make asylum claims.

For those who wanted to continue to flood our country in order to gain future Democrat voters the Democrat bill would have been great. It is important to remember that the House passed a legitimate border bill and the Democrats in the Senate held it up for over a year, refusing to allow a vote. The normal procedure is for the House to come up with a version, then the Senate a version of the same bill, and then get together and compromise on the differences. Democrats in the Senate were able to get a small number of Republicans to go along with that awful bill (they then could call it (and did often) a "bipartisan" bill. The bill Here is how CBS hyped it, but note it was quickly stated by Mike Johnson it was 'dead on arrival." The bill was essentially a political stunt by the Democrats.
House GOP says revived border bill "dead on arrival" as Senate plans vote

Of course no border bill was really needed for the president to act, and when faced with mounting criticism in holding up the House border bill the Democrats needed some kind of political diversion. Joe simply could have reversed his border orders from his first 100 days. Under Trump illegal border encounters have been reduced by 95% and "gotaways" reduced by 99%.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

I don't care what that liberal Senator says. He is wrong.

In what way is he wrong?

And I'm sure you're able to point out how specifically they are wrong.

I can not speak on behalf of @Vambram, but if I were to say that I choose to believe Sen. Katie Britt's opening statements, would you want to take the time debunking everything she said that you disagree with? What makes her statements false?

 

[Larniavc]

But Biden opend the border and let like 600 million illegals in.

And then Trump saved them during COVID. It's the circle of life.

 

[SimplyMe]

For those who wanted to continue to flood our country in order to gain future Democrat voters the Democrat bill would have been great. It is important to remember that the House passed a legitimate border bill and the Democrats in the Senate held it up for over a year, refusing to allow a vote. The normal procedure is for the House to come up with a version, then the Senate a version of the same bill, and then get together and compromise on the differences. Democrats in the Senate were able to get a small number of Republicans to go along with that awful bill (they then could call it (and did often) a "bipartisan" bill. The bill Here is how CBS hyped it, but note it was quickly stated by Mike Johnson it was 'dead on arrival." The bill was essentially a political stunt by the Democrats.
House GOP says revived border bill "dead on arrival" as Senate plans vote

Of course no border bill was really needed for the president to act, and when faced with mounting criticism in holding up the House border bill the Democrats needed some kind of political diversion. Joe simply could have reversed his border orders from his first 100 days. Under Trump illegal border encounters have been reduced by 95% and "gotaways" reduced by 99%.

The bill was legitimately bipartisan, written by both Republicans and Democrats, and sponsored by both in the Senate. As for normal procedure, at least according to you, the House would have come up with their own version rather than declaring it "dead on arrival." And, again, it wasn't "dead on arrival" before Trump told them not to pass it.

As for not being needed, the reason I brought it up is because of the complaint of the backlog of immigration cases, of how long it takes for them to get "due process." The changes that border bill made were needed then and are still needed now, as it did a lot to improve and expedite the processing of illegal aliens.

As for border encounters, if they are down (unless people are getting across the border unseen) then it would seem it has something to do with less people trying to cross the border and largely unrelated to what a president has done. Biden didn't really change much in terms of Trump's previous rules, so it wasn't any type of "open borders" policies that caused people to flood across the border. So what changed? About all I can think of is all the Republicans who were on the news yelling about how we had "open borders" -- it wasn't true, again the policies had not been changed, yet something made thousands/millions decide to test the border. Democrats weren't talking about any type of "open border" and were capturing people crossing the border at record rates, as well as doing far more deportations that Trump has. So it makes no sense that so many would be trying to cross into the US illegally, other than the fact one political party, not the Democrats, was basically saying they could all come in and lying that Biden would let them in.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

I would rather our immigrants come in the normal way, the President flying them in from South Africa.

 

[BCP1928]

The bill was legitimately bipartisan, written by both Republicans and Democrats, and sponsored by both in the Senate. As for normal procedure, at least according to you, the House would have come up with their own version rather than declaring it "dead on arrival." And, again, it wasn't "dead on arrival" before Trump told them not to pass it.

As for not being needed, the reason I brought it up is because of the complaint of the backlog of immigration cases, of how long it takes for them to get "due process." The changes that border bill made were needed then and are still needed now, as it did a lot to improve and expedite the processing of illegal aliens.

As for border encounters, if they are down (unless people are getting across the border unseen) then it would seem it has something to do with less people trying to cross the border and largely unrelated to what a president has done. Biden didn't really change much in terms of Trump's previous rules, so it wasn't any type of "open borders" policies that caused people to flood across the border. So what changed? About all I can think of is all the Republicans who were on the news yelling about how we had "open borders" -- it wasn't true, again the policies had not been changed, yet something made thousands/millions decide to test the border. Democrats weren't talking about any type of "open border" and were capturing people crossing the border at record rates, as well as doing far more deportations that Trump has. So it makes no sense that so many would be trying to cross into the US illegally, other than the fact one political party, not the Democrats, was basically saying they could all come in and lying that Biden would let them in.

Another factor was the drug gangs, who encouraged migration in order to fleece the immigrants for transportation through gang-contolled territory.

 

[Valletta]

The bill was legitimately bipartisan, written by both Republicans and Democrats, and sponsored by both in the Senate. As for normal procedure, at least according to you, the House would have come up with their own version rather than declaring it "dead on arrival." And, again, it wasn't "dead on arrival" before Trump told them not to pass it.

Not at all. The normal procedure is for the HOUSE to introduce a bill and then send it to the Senate.

As for not being needed, the reason I brought it up is because of the complaint of the backlog of immigration cases, of how long it takes for them to get "due process." The changes that border bill made were needed then and are still needed now, as it did a lot to improve and expedite the processing of illegal aliens.

The problem with the Senate bill was that money was allocated to process more people into our country rather than secure the border.

As for border encounters, if they are down (unless people are getting across the border unseen) then it would seem it has something to do with less people trying to cross the border and largely unrelated to what a president has done.

The reductions have been dramatic.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Not at all. The normal procedure is for the HOUSE to introduce a bill and then send it to the Senate.

The Senate can any bill except one that raises revenue (tax bills).

The problem with the Senate bill was that money was allocated to process more people into our country rather than secure the border.


The reductions have been dramatic.