Biden says BUILD THAT WALL!

[probinson]

McALLEN, Texas (AP) — The Biden administration announced it waived 26 federal laws in South Texas to allow border wall construction on Wednesday, marking the administration’s first use of a sweeping executive power employed often during the Trump presidency.​

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The Biden administration says it is using executive power to allow border wall construction in Texas

The Department of Homeland Security announced that the Biden administration leveraged sweeping executive power to waive 26 federal laws in South Texas.

apnews.com

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[Bob_1000]

That must mean it’s go time.

 

[Servus]

That must mean it’s go time.

I know he can lift that TV.

 

[Servus]

I'm really surprised that democrat politicians are realizing so soon that an open border and no law enforcement is a really bad idea.

 

[probinson]

In case you forgot, here's what Biden said about the wall in August 2020.

"Not another foot of wall."

Actually, it seems like the Biden administration is planning to build another 105,600 feet of wall...

 

[Bob_1000]

I'm really surprised that democrat politicians are realizing so soon that an open border and no law enforcement is a really bad idea.

They’re not realizing an open border is a bad idea. All soldiers have been let in and now they’re building that wall to keep us in while they genocide us.

 

[Hank77]

In case you forgot, here's what Biden said about the wall in August 2020.

"Not another foot of wall."

Actually, it seems like the Biden administration is planning to build another 105,600 feet of wall...

I'm glad that we have an administration that can change tactics when it becomes obvious that they need to. It's just too bad they didn't get here sooner.

I have to admit that I have been against building that kind of wall. I believed in using more technical, modern equipment for a wall. We usually don't build walls and moats around our homes but use cameras and alarms, that's more what I had in mind, though on a large scale.

I still believe that on the Wildlife Reserve and a few other places they need to leave an opening in the wall/fence for wildlife migration. Those small areas could be monitored very easily by human guards 24/7.

 

[Wings like Eagles]

This administration is a joke, if they don't do something they will loose the election big time and they know it.

 

[probinson]

I'm glad that we have an administration that can change tactics when it becomes obvious that they need to. It's just too bad they didn't get here sooner.

That's one way to look at it. Another is to realize that all of the posturing against the building of a border wall was always a foolish tactic.

I have to admit that I have been against building that kind of wall. I believed in using more technical, modern equipment for a wall. We usually don't build walls and moats around our homes but use cameras and alarms, that's more what I had in mind, though on a large scale.

This doesn't seem like a logical comparison to me. I have 4 Ring cameras that keep an eye on the various entry points of my home. But then I'm only monitoring around 2,500 sq. ft. The idea that we could effectively monitor the border with cameras and alarms when once someone is in the country they could go literally anywhere seems naive at best.

Nuance is almost always the answer. Physical barriers always made sense from a logical perspective as one piece of a broader border security plan. But nuance doesn't coincide well with politics and propaganda.

It's apparently just become obvious to the Biden administration that having open borders and letting anyone in who wants to come isn't a viable long-term immigration strategy and they're now embracing the strategy they once vehemently fought against. It would seem some mea culpas are called for. But that also is not good for political agendas. It's going to be interesting to watch all the many ways Democrats try to spin this flip-flop.

 

[Servus]

This administration is a joke, if they don't do something they will loose the election big time and they know it.

But building the wall is bad. It's racist, xenophobic, fascist nationalism, and such a MAGA thing to do. Oh and it doesn't even work.

 

[Wings like Eagles]

But building the wall is bad. It's racist, xenophobic, and fascist nationalism.

There is another thread on this, calling them hypocrites.

 

[JustOneWay]

What a petty partisan topic. Bush built some of the wall, then Obama built some of the wall, then Trump built some of the wall and now it is Biden's turn. The only difference between all of them is when it was a democrat in charge the republicans whined and whined about how dangerous the border was and used it as a political wedge.
Another interesting point is only trump was the one saying he finished the wall, which was a lie.

 

[probinson]

Bush built some of the wall, then Obama built some of the wall, then Trump built some of the wall and now it is Biden's turn. The only difference between all of them is when it was a democrat in charge the republicans whined and whined about how dangerous the border was and used it as a political wedge.

You forgot that when Trump wanted to "build the wall", Democrats called Republicans all sorts of nasty names for wanting the wall to be built. Racists. Xenophobes.

As I said in an earlier post, having physical barriers at the border for security is and always has been a logical part of a comprehensive border security plan. But Democrats decided to make "the wall" a political hot button issue when Trump was in office. If they believed that supporters of the wall were racist and xenophobic, then unless a mea culpa is forthcoming admitting their rhetoric was wrong, are they not racist and xenophobic for doing the exact same thing now?

This is the issue. It's not that Biden is building 20 miles of wall (after he promised not another foot of wall would be built during his administration). It's the blatant hypocrisy with not even a passing acknowledgment that those who were railing against Republicans for wanting a wall are now just going to pretend like it's no big deal that Biden is reneging on his campaign promise and building the wall that they so loathed.

 

[SimplyMe]

There is a lot of spin going on here. Democrats have never objected to "walls" in a limited sense, they objected against a wall that extended the entire length of the US-Mexican border. The quote from when the Biden administration came into office is, “building a massive wall that spans the entire southern border is not a serious policy solution.”

Democrats have not stated that walls have no place, merely that there are many areas of the border where a wall does not make sense.

 

[Always in His Presence]

~snip: It's apparently just become obvious to the Biden administration that having open borders and letting anyone in who wants to come isn't a viable long-term immigration strategy and they're now embracing the strategy they once vehemently fought against. It would seem some mea culpas are called for. But that also is not good for political agendas. It's going to be interesting to watch all the many ways Democrats try to spin this flip-flop.

I agree - it is going to be very interesting to watch.

 

[probinson]

There is a lot of spin going on here. Democrats have never objected to "walls" in a limited sense,

You're kidding, right?

Biden made it abundantly clear that "there will not be another foot of wall constructed in my administration".

"Not ... another foot" doesn't exactly sound like endorsement of any kind of wall in a limited sense.

Democrats have not stated that walls have no place

Sure they have. Biden said it. Just listen to him. "Not ... another foot of wall". That sure sounds like he thinks walls have no place.

 

[Servus]

There is a lot of spin going on here. Democrats have never objected to "walls" in a limited sense, they objected against a wall that extended the entire length of the US-Mexican border. The quote from when the Biden administration came into office is, “building a massive wall that spans the entire southern border is not a serious policy solution.”

Democrats have not stated that walls have no place, merely that there are many areas of the border where a wall does not make sense.

How does it's racist, xenophobic, fascist nationalism, and doesn't work, fit in with eh they just said it wasn't practical?

 

[Servus]

That's one way to look at it. Another is to realize that all of the posturing against the building of a border wall was always a foolish tactic.



This doesn't seem like a logical comparison to me. I have 4 Ring cameras that keep an eye on the various entry points of my home. But then I'm only monitoring around 2,500 sq. ft. The idea that we could effectively monitor the border with cameras and alarms when once someone is in the country they could go literally anywhere seems naive at best.

Nuance is almost always the answer. Physical barriers always made sense from a logical perspective as one piece of a broader border security plan. But nuance doesn't coincide well with politics and propaganda.

It's apparently just become obvious to the Biden administration that having open borders and letting anyone in who wants to come isn't a viable long-term immigration strategy and they're now embracing the strategy they once vehemently fought against. It would seem some mea culpas are called for. But that also is not good for political agendas. It's going to be interesting to watch all the many ways Democrats try to spin this flip-flop.

I think we're supposed to just forget about their previous stance. And just thank them for doing something about it a zillion illegal immigrants later. I'm waiting to see if they also suddenly decide that deporting illegals is a good idea.

 

[probinson]

Let's take a trip down memory lane to remind ourselves just what exactly Democrats have said about "the wall".

The White House's xenophobia has empowered others to say that Latinos don’t really belong in America.​

Opinion | Trump's border wall is meant to remind all Latinos that we're unwelcome

The White House's xenophobia has empowered others to say that Latinos don’t really belong in America.

www.nbcnews.com

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Biden Pushed to Permanently Scrap 'Trump's Xenophobic and Racist Wall'​

Biden Pushed to Permanently Scrap 'Trump's Xenophobic and Racist Wall' | Common Dreams

"The wall doesn't even begin to address any of the injustices plaguing the borderlands. It's nothing but a political prop for the GOP. Biden must stop it for good."

www.commondreams.org

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We’ll be back before the Supreme Court soon to put a stop to Trump’s xenophobic border wall once and for all. ​

ACLU Comment on Supreme Court Order in Border Wall Challenge | American Civil Liberties Union

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court today left in place an earlier order that permits the Trump administration to temporarily continue construction of the...

www.aclu.org

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We are the sum of our actions, and our actions reveal a nation, a party, and a president willing to adhere to and invest in the systems of white supremacy. The wall is merely a symbol of that allegiance, the propaganda that affirms it, and a monument to its vanity.​

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

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Whether praised by its supporters or condemned by its opponents, the wall is a stand-in for the larger promise of broad racial (and religious) exclusion and domination.​

Opinion | Trump’s Wall of Shame (Published 2019)

It would stand as a lasting reminder of the white racial hostility surging through this moment in American history.

www.nytimes.com

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Ms. Reed concedes that President Donald Trump’s proposed wall will be inefficient, wasting millions in tax dollars and will do nothing to curb undocumented immigration to the U.S. These are both true, and those facts disclose the obvious racism underlying the wall. The wall is not useful as a symbolic representative of the law. The wall is a symbolic gesture to re-inscribe a boundary between us and them.​

President Trump's wall is actually racist

P.J. Martinez | Contributing WriterP.J. Martinez is a philosophy student at UNT. The following article is his response to the column, "What President Trump's wall actually means."Ms. Reed concedes that President Donald Trump’s proposed wall will be inefficient, wasting millions in tax dollar

www.ntdaily.com

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Do you see anything in these articles talking about walls in a "limited sense"? Nope. Just how bad, and racist, and xenophobic the wall is. The same wall that Biden is constructing 20 more miles of after waiving 26 federal laws.

 

[JustOneWay]

You forgot that when Trump wanted to "build the wall", Democrats called Republicans all sorts of nasty names for wanting the wall to be built. Racists. Xenophobes.

As I said in an earlier post, having physical barriers at the border for security is and always has been a logical part of a comprehensive border security plan. But Democrats decided to make "the wall" a political hot button issue when Trump was in office. If they believed that supporters of the wall were racist and xenophobic, then unless a mea culpa is forthcoming admitting their rhetoric was wrong, are they not racist and xenophobic for doing the exact same thing now?

This is the issue. It's not that Biden is building 20 miles of wall (after he promised not another foot of wall would be built during his administration). It's the blatant hypocrisy with not even a passing acknowledgment that those who were railing against Republicans for wanting a wall are now just going to pretend like it's no big deal that Biden is reneging on his campaign promise and building the wall that they so loathed.

OK


When will Mexico be paying for the wall?

LOL Hypocrisy when a wall is what the Americans afraid of brown people coming over want. Nothing Biden does satisfies people even if it is what they want.