Biblical submission what does it look like?

[Neostarwcc]

A wife is supposed to submit to her husband as her husband submits to Christ. But what exactly is biblical submission supposed to look like?

It sounds like an easy question but it's not to most people. It sounds so easy because to submit to your husband like your husband submits to Christ is to trust him, love him, and do what he says without question. Because, that's what a man is supposed to do for Christ right? So, two questions. 1. Why is that so hard to understand and to put into practice and 2. Why is it any different than submitting to God? If women/men even submit to God at all in the first place anymore. Just one example would be, when you put the word "slave" into the picture in the submission to God category it's technically held in a negative light. Yet, we ARE slaves of God and will be for all eternity. Not only does the Bible say so it's common sense. If you're supposed to obey God without question for eternity and live like the lowliest servant for others, than I'm sorry that's slavery. Plus, even Paul made the connection (1 Corinthians 7:22, Romans 6:20-22).

Yet, use the words "I'm a slave of Jesus Christ" and you'll get stones thrown at you these days. Why? What is Biblical submission these days? And why, did it change from when Jesus and the apostles were around? Just how much of our Bibles are today's people going to tunnelvision on and how much of it are we all just going to tear out of our Bibles and completely ignore?

 

[AK1982]

1. Why is that so hard to understand and to put into practice

Women submit to men who loves them like Christ loved the church. Women find it hard to understand and put "Women submit to your husbands" into practice because their respective men behave like "men" and expect "Christ" treatment.

Regarding your "slave" understanding, Galatians 4:7 - "So you are no longer a slave, but God's child". We submit to God like a child and not like a slave.

 

[tturt]

"For wives, this means being supportive to your husbands like you are tenderly devoted to our Lord," Eph 5:22

God doesnt dictate, demand, nor expect us not to question Him.

 

[com7fy8]

A wife is supposed to submit to her husband as her husband submits to Christ. But what exactly is biblical submission supposed to look like?

It sounds like an easy question but it's not to most people. It sounds so easy because to submit to your husband like your husband submits to Christ is to trust him, love him, and do what he says without question.

Well, about the "without question" part. I would say God proves Himself.

So, if I am in question, and not satisfied and guided in God's peace, I need to pray and get correction so I am flowing with the Lord, resting in His personal guiding.

And the ideal is the guy does this, as the example for his wife. And he expects her to submit to God, so our Father is personally satisfying and guiding her to do what God wants. So, her obedience to a godly man includes how she personally submits to how God guides her. And then, with both of them submitting to God together with each other, what happens? She is submissive to him, by the fact that God has her doing what her husband has her doing. Therefore her submission is actually to God in her, who has her going the way He has her husband guiding her.

And what does this look like? Among other items, a Christian man wants to love any and all people the way Jesus desires.

"For if you love those who love you, what reward have you?" (in Matthew 5:46)

And so he wants a woman who helps him to love any and all people. She submits to him, then, by loving any and all people the way Jesus wants. And she helps him to get real correction so he is genuinely caring for any and all people; he wants her to help him get this real correction; so she submits to him, obeys him, by so helping him

 

[Monksailor]

You are misundwerstanding the word "slave" in the Bible, esp. NT. There is no parallel word in today's vocabulary. Please refer to these:
Slave Definition and Meaning - Bible Dictionary

Topical Bible: Slave

 

[Richard T]

All i can add is that the book "Spiritual Authority" by Watchmen Nee really helped me understand how I should submit to my boss at work. It has been a number of years since then, but I never jump the chain of command, or try to do anything that is backstabbing or anything else to destroy the relationship. It has been years since i read it so i am not sure how much it goes into marriage but it's treatise on authority is quite excellent.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

A wife is supposed to submit to her husband as her husband submits to Christ. But what exactly is biblical submission supposed to look like?

It sounds like an easy question but it's not to most people. It sounds so easy because to submit to your husband like your husband submits to Christ is to trust him, love him, and do what he says without question. Because, that's what a man is supposed to do for Christ right? So, two questions. 1. Why is that so hard to understand and to put into practice and 2. Why is it any different than submitting to God? If women/men even submit to God at all in the first place anymore. Just one example would be, when you put the word "slave" into the picture in the submission to God category it's technically held in a negative light. Yet, we ARE slaves of God and will be for all eternity. Not only does the Bible say so it's common sense. If you're supposed to obey God without question for eternity and live like the lowliest servant for others, than I'm sorry that's slavery. Plus, even Paul made the connection (1 Corinthians 7:22, Romans 6:20-22).

Yet, use the words "I'm a slave of Jesus Christ" and you'll get stones thrown at you these days. Why? What is Biblical submission these days? And why, did it change from when Jesus and the apostles were around? Just how much of our Bibles are today's people going to tunnelvision on and how much of it are we all just going to tear out of our Bibles and completely ignore?

This command is given directly to the wife. It was not given to her husband to use and abuse as we so commonly see. Men, husbands, I implore you..... this is none of your business. This is between a loving wife and her Lord and Savior. Concentrate on the command God gave you. Love your wife like the Lord loves His Church. Then maybe the marriage will see blessings.

 

[bèlla]

I saw your message this morning and smiled inwardly. I knew the Lord would drop something in my spirit. I've been mulling on the subject for a few days. There's no coincidence.

Paul, a bond-servant of Christ Jesus...

I paused the first time I read his salutation. I allowed the words to settle upon my mind and heart. I knew what it meant. I wanted to experience the conscious awareness of being captive and yoked to Something greater than myself. When you encounter your lowliness you grasp the magnitude of difference between yourself and the Most High.

The awe of His person is unforgettable. You can't help but fall to your knees in acquiescence. He's so High above you. The reverence you exude in your lessening fuels your subjugation. Autonomy isn't a question or concept. All you see around you is Him. He's Everything.

Then I saw these words, I am an ambassador in chains...

And I laughed. Not because I bore the physical irons he spoke of. But I understood the fetters that held me in place. The invisible cords of love and fealty. I couldn't leave if I wanted to. As Peter said, where would I go? The yoke wasn't a hardship to strain against. It was liberty. He freed me from myself and all that would separate me from Him.

I became His canvas and submitted to His reshaping. The tools vary. Sometimes they're hard, soft, painful, or ecstatic. But every stroke has a purpose. As He sloughs away the old, my nakedness astounds me. I understand the peace of sufferance and delight of denial. He reveals the joy of being shunned and scorned. Because the stripping makes me holy and beautiful.

I met Love on my face. Not standing erect. He humbles me and bids me to do the same. Love from the depths. Yield from the heights. And sacrifice without shame.

These are my lessons:

To know the pain of too much tenderness.
To be wounded by your own understanding of love;
And to bleed willingly and joyfully.

He's taught me how to love. How could I deny the same for my beloved? I can't hold back.

Thank you for posting the thread. You've blessed me through your question.

Yours in His Service,

~bella

 

[John Helpher]

and do what he says without question. Because, that's what a man is supposed to do for Christ right?

No. Questions aren't wrong. The disciples asked Jesus questions a lot. Sometimes he answered them plainly and sometimes he got cranky with them because they hadn't really thought through the issues, first.

There was even a time when the disciples were arguing secretly among one another and Jesus asked them what they were questioning one another about. Turns out they were trying to keep it secret because they were arguing about who should be greatest and, deep down, they knew Jesus wouldn't be happy about that (Mark 9:33-34).

God himself said, "Let us reason together..." (Isiah 1:18). He gives us the spirit of a sound mind (2 Timothy 1:7). We're meant to be transformed by the renewing of our mind (Romans 12:2). We're meant to be wise as serpents, (Matthew 10:16).

There needs to be a balance based on sincerity and humility; God is fine for us to ask questions (or even challenge him), but we should do so with humility and an understanding of why we're doing it. The same applies to the marriage relationship; a wife should be able to question her husband, so long as she recognizes why she's doing it and that she has a good reason.

There is a saying, choose your battles wisely. If you disagree too much you just come across as nagging, but if you're never allowed to disagree then you'll just feel repressed. The two of you should be working as a team; he may not like it but there may be times when he will need you to speak up if he's going off the rails. You'll need prayer and wisdom to know when that is the right time.

 

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[LovebirdsFlying]

It is usually easy for me to submit to my husband. Sometimes I resent it, because I forget that submission doesn't mean "he gets his way all the time, he makes all the decisions, and she doesn't have any say about anything," as I was brainwashed to believe in my younger years.

I can submit because my husband really, truly does want what's best for me. He is not trying to "keep me in my place" or "show me who's boss," as my father and my first husband were all about. Some men (women too, I suppose) say "submission" when they really mean "unquestioning obedience." Hubby doesn't expect that of me. In fact, one of his first acts of leadership was to help me become more independent and teach me to make decisions for myself.

My life is infinitely, immeasurably better now than it was then, because I've got a man worth submitting to. And he doesn't even know I'm doing it, most of the time.

 

[BBAS 64]

Good day,

Highly recommend reading "love and respect"

A group of Women take a look at the issue:

Respecting Husbands (Panel)



in him,

Bill

 

[1213]

...Yet, we ARE slaves of God and will be for all eternity. Not only does the Bible say so it's common sense. If you're supposed to obey God without question for eternity and live like the lowliest servant for others, than I'm sorry that's slavery. ...

If you do it because you have to, then you are probably a slave. But if you Gods will because you love God, then you are not a slave, but a child of God.

… Whoever is born of God doesn't commit sin, because his seed remains in him; and he can't sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are revealed, and the children of the devil. Whoever doesn't do righteousness is not of God, neither is he who doesn't love his brother.
1 John 3:7-10

No longer do I call you servants, for the servant doesn't know what his lord does. But I have called you friends, for everything that I heard from my Father, I have made known to you.
John 15:15

 

[GreekOrthodox]

One of the interesting aspects of the Eastern Orthodox wedding service is that the bride and groom wear crowns that are tied together. Although these are crowns of a king and queen of a new family, they are symbolic of one of the prayers in the service,

"Remember them, O Lord our God, as You remembered Your holy Forty Martyrs, sending down upon them the crowns from the Heavens."

During the wedding, the bride and groom each take 3 drinks from a glass of wine and the priest takes the couple by their joined hands and holding the Gospel in front them, leads them around a small table 3 times signifying that their first steps as husband and wife are lead by Christ.

We are martyrs to each other and self-sacrifice is needed to complete our journey on this earth as marriage is just one way we are made to be martyrs to Christ.

 

[Hazelelponi]

A wife is supposed to submit to her husband as her husband submits to Christ. But what exactly is biblical submission supposed to look like?

It sounds like an easy question but it's not to most people. It sounds so easy because to submit to your husband like your husband submits to Christ is to trust him, love him, and do what he says without question. Because, that's what a man is supposed to do for Christ right? So, two questions. 1. Why is that so hard to understand and to put into practice and 2. Why is it any different than submitting to God? If women/men even submit to God at all in the first place anymore. Just one example would be, when you put the word "slave" into the picture in the submission to God category it's technically held in a negative light. Yet, we ARE slaves of God and will be for all eternity. Not only does the Bible say so it's common sense. If you're supposed to obey God without question for eternity and live like the lowliest servant for others, than I'm sorry that's slavery. Plus, even Paul made the connection (1 Corinthians 7:22, Romans 6:20-22).

Yet, use the words "I'm a slave of Jesus Christ" and you'll get stones thrown at you these days. Why? What is Biblical submission these days? And why, did it change from when Jesus and the apostles were around? Just how much of our Bibles are today's people going to tunnelvision on and how much of it are we all just going to tear out of our Bibles and completely ignore?

My husband pretty much gives me whatever I want and rarely tells me no over anything.

I also know this about him so I in turn respect him enough not to ask for much of him - otherwise I'm only taking advantage.

On the rare occasion he does tell me no, I do as he asks, although not always without discussion, most especially if I disagree.

Once he wanted to buy me a new upgraded computer that had better graphics (I do graphics) for my birthday as a gift. When I fouund out his intention I felt it unnecessary because what I had worked, albeit not without some difficulty at times - but it was a difficulty I was accustomed to and not, in my opinion insurmountable for my purposes. It was also an expense I felt we couldn't afford at that time.

We did argue about it. I said no. He "put his foot down" and bought me the computer anyway.

We disagreed, however, I received the gift with happiness and joy (it was awesome, let's face it) and it made him happy to be able to buy that for me.

As married couples we will disagree. Sometimes on major issues sometimes on minor. In the end, in my marriage, my husband has the last word, a thing we agreed to prior to marrying.

However what we do is always with the utmost love and respect of the other person. It takes the other person into consideration without compromising ones own opinions and thoughts.

I question God at times, I want to know the "why"; we all do... we don't blindly follow anyone. It's just that in a marriage, there can't be two leaders. One must take the ultimate responsibility and in God's estimation, that is the man.

God did not say Eve sinned, He placed the responsibility squarely upon Adam though Eve led him into sin. Man in a Christian home must be the one with the last word in an impasse, and be guided by God in all things.