Biblical distortion to protect us

[dqhall]

If they're all things missing from the Bible then this is just mere speculation could Jesus have kids and a wife and that it could been covered up to protect their fate
But if that was the case it will not be known to the public to prevent the same thing that happened to Jesus to his family because when Jesus was on the earth he the affected people in two ways influence you to give up everything you had to follow him or making you so mad people wanted to crucify him because his teachings so I would like to entertain the possibility of this just something to think about I've been thinking about this for a long time and I'll even hesitant to post it because it being such a controversial idea but did Jesus have a family before he was crucified but if he did the church would keep it hidden protect his family from the people that wanted him killed would have done the same to his children I know most of us have seen the movie DaVinci's code but is there any truth to it in your opinion

Jesus did not marry. He was doing dangerous missionary work. There was risk of execution. He did not leave a widow and orphans behind at Golgotha.

 

[AlexDTX]

If they're all things missing from the Bible then this is just mere speculation could Jesus have kids and a wife and that it could been covered up to protect their fate
But if that was the case it will not be known to the public to prevent the same thing that happened to Jesus to his family because when Jesus was on the earth he the affected people in two ways influence you to give up everything you had to follow him or making you so mad people wanted to crucify him because his teachings so I would like to entertain the possibility of this just something to think about I've been thinking about this for a long time and I'll even hesitant to post it because it being such a controversial idea but did Jesus have a family before he was crucified but if he did the church would keep it hidden protect his family from the people that wanted him killed would have done the same to his children I know most of us have seen the movie DaVinci's code but is there any truth to it in your opinion

The story that Mary Magdalene had children with Jesus is the foundation of British royalty. All the nobility of Europe make claim on genetic descent from Jesus thus their divine right to rule. It is hogwash fed on a gullible mass.

Jesus was not crucified because he made the Jewish leaders mad. They crucified him because they were envious of his popularity, power, and rejected his claim as the Son of God, thus making himself equal with God.

Natural thinking is the norm for the body of Christ. Consider James the half brother of Jesus. During the Lord's earthly ministry James did not believe in the deity of Christ. After his resurrection he became a believer. In the book of Acts James is already considered the leader (bishop) of Jerusalem. Based on what? Merely the fact that he was the Lord's half brother. This is the same reason Mary his exalted by the Roman church. It is natural thinking, not spiritual.

 

[danstribe]

Please re-phrase your question or comments using punctuation marks and proper sentences. It is very difficult to understand what you are even asking when you do not use any punctuation, sentences or paragraph structure.

Some people may have difficulty with being able to phrase comments properly or with correct punctuation, spelling or sentence/ paragraph structure. If you do know proper grammar and structure it shouldn't be too difficult to figure out what is being asked.

 

[danstribe]

The story that Mary Magdalene had children with Jesus is the foundation of British royalty. All the nobility of Europe make claim on genetic descent from Jesus thus their divine right to rule. It is hogwash fed on a gullible mass.

Jesus was not crucified because he made the Jewish leaders mad. They crucified him because they were envious of his popularity, power, and rejected his claim as the Son of God, thus making himself equal with God.

Natural thinking is the norm for the body of Christ. Consider James the half brother of Jesus. During the Lord's earthly ministry James did not believe in the deity of Christ. After his resurrection he became a believer. In the book of Acts James is already considered the leader (bishop) of Jerusalem. Based on what? Merely the fact that he was the Lord's half brother. This is the same reason Mary his exalted by the Roman church. It is natural thinking, not spiritual.

The royal line is thru Mary and her descendants, which would include the half brothers and sisters of Christ. This is thru the lineage of the Jewish line. Joseph of Aramathea was the step father of Christ. Aramathea it Bethlehem.

 

[disciple1]

If they're all things missing from the Bible then this is just mere speculation could Jesus have kids and a wife and that it could been covered up to protect their fate
But if that was the case it will not be known to the public to prevent the same thing that happened to Jesus to his family because when Jesus was on the earth he the affected people in two ways influence you to give up everything you had to follow him or making you so mad people wanted to crucify him because his teachings so I would like to entertain the possibility of this just something to think about I've been thinking about this for a long time and I'll even hesitant to post it because it being such a controversial idea but did Jesus have a family before he was crucified but if he did the church would keep it hidden protect his family from the people that wanted him killed would have done the same to his children I know most of us have seen the movie DaVinci's code but is there any truth to it in your opinion

There was only about 100 believers in Jesus at the time of his death, so if he had a wife and kids, (he didn't) it would be known.

 

[Cuddles333]

There has been the claim that the earliest gospel (Mark) was written with Homer's lliad and The Odyssey in mind by whoever the actual gospel author was. This may be a 'distortion' by the addition of Homer's epics scenes injected into the Jesus story to make it just as fantastic.
The Jesus story does separate itself from this possible 'distortion' by Jesus' burial shroud having been taken up to a church 400 miles away to the north (Oddesa) by one of His 12 disciples. Today it has had enough scientific evidence to prove that it was the man's burial garment revealed in the Gospels.

 

[Phantasman]

There was only about 100 believers in Jesus at the time of his death, so if he had a wife and kids, (he didn't) it would be known.

Where do you get that number? He sent seventy to teach, plus 11, and 6 women followed him. So did they convert some 13 people in three years?

I'd revisit your math.

 

[Blade]

"speculation" and ...really out there.. to even talk about it.. is like.. me going out side to as my son always wanted growing up.. laser beams shooting out of my eyes

 

[AfterThought]

"speculation" and ...really out there.. to even talk about it.. is like.. me going out side to as my son always wanted growing up.. laser beams shooting out of my eyes

You know I'm not the first person to come up with this idea about Jesus

 

[lesliedellow]

This video does a pretty good job of taking the Da Vinci Code apart:

 

[disciple1]

Where do you get that number? He sent seventy to teach, plus 11, and 6 women followed him. So did they convert some 13 people in three years?

I'd revisit your math.

How's this?
Acts chapter 1 verse 28
15 In those days Peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty) 16 and said, “Brothers and sisters,[d] the Scripture had to be fulfilled in which the Holy Spirit spoke long ago through David concerning Judas, who served as guide for those who arrested Jesus. 17 He was one of our number and shared in our ministry.”

 

[disciple1]

Where do you get that number? He sent seventy to teach, plus 11, and 6 women followed him. So did they convert some 13 people in three years?

I'd revisit your math.

How's this?
Acts chapter 1 verse 28
15 In those days Peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty) 16 and said, “Brothers and sisters,[d] the Scripture had to be fulfilled in which the Holy Spirit spoke long ago through David concerning Judas, who served as guide for those who arrested Jesus. 17 He was one of our number and shared in our ministry.”

Acts chapter 4 verse 4
But many who heard the message believed; so the number of men who believed grew to about five thousand.

 

[Phantasman]

How's this?
Acts chapter 1 verse 28
15 In those days Peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty) 16 and said, “Brothers and sisters,[d] the Scripture had to be fulfilled in which the Holy Spirit spoke long ago through David concerning Judas, who served as guide for those who arrested Jesus. 17 He was one of our number and shared in our ministry.”

Still no go. You seem to be following a book rewritten to promote Orthodox thinking. The 1599 Geneva Bible is much more pure of the actual Hebrew and Greek translated by John Wycliffe. The KJV even removed certain verses that taught not to trust leaders of governments, as he was, that still remian in the earlier Bible.

Here is the earlier version before your "reformed" thought,

Acts:
13 m]">[m]And when they were n]">[n]come in, they went up into an upper chamber, where abode both Peter and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zealot, and Judas James’s brother.

14 These all o]">[o]continued with p]">[p]one accord in q]">[q]prayer and supplication with the r]">[r]women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his s]">[s]brethren.

15 t]">[t]And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said (now the number of u]">[u]names that were in one place were about an hundred and twenty.)

16 v]">[v]Ye men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, Which the holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before of Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.

17 For he was numbered with us, and had obtained fellowship in this ministration.

We know as I said of the 70, 11, 6-8 women, etc. And they were disciples (eye witnesses) to Christ. The word "believers" is not showing you the truth, IMO.

 

[disciple1]

Still no go. You seem to be following a book rewritten to promote Orthodox thinking. The 1599 Geneva Bible is much more pure of the actual Hebrew and Greek translated by John Wycliffe. The KJV even removed certain verses that taught not to trust leaders of governments, as he was, that still remian in the earlier Bible.

Here is the earlier version before your "reformed" thought,

Acts:
13 m]">[m]And when they were n]">[n]come in, they went up into an upper chamber, where abode both Peter and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zealot, and Judas James’s brother.

14 These all o]">[o]continued with p]">[p]one accord in q]">[q]prayer and supplication with the r]">[r]women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his s]">[s]brethren.

15 t]">[t]And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said (now the number of u]">[u]names that were in one place were about an hundred and twenty.)

16 v]">[v]Ye men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, Which the holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before of Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.

17 For he was numbered with us, and had obtained fellowship in this ministration.

We know as I said of the 70, 11, 6-8 women, etc. And they were disciples (eye witnesses) to Christ. The word "believers" is not showing you the truth, IMO.

Where do you get that number? He sent seventy to teach, plus 11, and 6 women followed him. So did they convert some 13 people in three years?

Your saying many bibles are no good, when you say that.

John chapter 6 verse 66
From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.

 

[Phantasman]

Your saying many bibles are no good, when you say that.

John chapter 6 verse 66
From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.

I'm saying written words can distort truth. Only the Spirit can reveal truth, but unless we seek it, it is hidden.

Ignorance is the mother of all evil. Ignorance will result in death, because those who come from ignorance neither were nor are nor shall be. [...] will be perfect when all the truth is revealed. For truth is like ignorance: while it is hidden, it rests in itself, but when it is revealed and is recognized, it is praised, inasmuch as it is stronger than ignorance and error. It gives freedom. The Word said, "If you know the truth, the truth will make you free" (Jn 8:32). Ignorance is a slave. Knowledge is freedom. If we know the truth, we shall find the fruits of the truth within us. If we are joined to it, it will bring our fulfillment.- Gospel of Philip

The Bible is owned by the Orthodox and is changed to match their ideology, throughout history. There is a reason the hidden (secret) books were written, and why Paul many times referred to them. They were in danger from the world. And given to the spiritually understanding.

 

[AfterThought]

I'm not going to quote Bible verses
There are many ideas in the scriptures
That could have been edited out of the Bible
By people they have something to lose because of it
People in position of power in Europe at the time but more so
When you tell a story over and over again it can get distorted at times
And truths can be hard to find in any case
If not impossible
But of the Gospels of Mary
Could they have been forged or not
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around it
I just know what I believe in

 

[Phantasman]

I'm not going to quote Bible verses
There are many ideas in the scriptures
That could have been edited out of the Bible
By people they have something to lose because of it
People in position of power in Europe at the time but more so
When you tell a story over and over again it can get distorted at times
And truths can be hard to find in any case
If not impossible
But of the Gospels of Mary
Could they have been forged or not
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around it
I just know what I believe in

It for each to determine. We all have the same spirit. What elates the spirit, compared to the flesh, is what I seek. Names mean nothing to me. John didn't write John, or do I believe the synoptics were written by the men who bear their names. Names can deceive. But content is where truth lies.

But truth brought names into existence in the world for our sakes, because it is not possible to learn it (truth) without these names. Truth is one single thing; it is many things and for our sakes to teach about this one thing in love through many things.- Philip

When Philip uses "many", it's up to us to seek out the many, and where "we" believe that they exist. I see more truth in the many things that coincide with the spiritual Gospel message than those who exalt the flesh or the church of it.

In the end, spirit teaches us to seek death (of the flesh), not to fear it. But the world church teaches the opposite, and, in the process, controls the ignorant with ignorance.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

You're talking about details no one cares about
But I'm curious to see what people's opinions are when it comes to the possibility of him having offspring
Because I truly believe he did
Proof of it in humanity itself

It is my considered opinion that for Jesus to have offspring according to the flesh would be inconsistent with His divine mission.

 

[Winken]

If they're all things missing from the Bible then this is just mere speculation could Jesus have kids and a wife and that it could been covered up to protect their fate
But if that was the case it will not be known to the public to prevent the same thing that happened to Jesus to his family because when Jesus was on the earth he the affected people in two ways influence you to give up everything you had to follow him or making you so mad people wanted to crucify him because his teachings so I would like to entertain the possibility of this just something to think about I've been thinking about this for a long time and I'll even hesitant to post it because it being such a controversial idea but did Jesus have a family before he was crucified but if he did the church would keep it hidden protect his family from the people that wanted him killed would have done the same to his children I know most of us have seen the movie DaVinci's code but is there any truth to it in your opinion

No family, DaVinci's Code is a joke.

 

[AfterThought]

It's more of a opinion then it is a joke