Apparently it was a long time ago.
More memory problems? I'm not surprised.
I cannot recall what I asked of you 3-months ago
You could not even remember it if you saw it 300 times, and all of them yesterday.
Please point to the source where I made this request.
Sure:
CARM BOARDS.
I would like to see exactly what I said, and how I said it, in full context.
Then go there and look it up. As you can see, I have my hands full complying with the request at the moment, not to mention, interrupting objections.
Given how you approached this thread and the second one by a similar title, I suspect you have gone far overboard with however I may have asked for it.
Not really. It was stated in just as general terms as I've stated it here. But I have to give you credit, this is a novel approach, even for you: try to shoot down the posting of this material by taking potshots at everything under the sun--except, that is, the statements of the OP; when that fails, bombard it with sidetracks; and when nothing else works, then just go into denial that you said it.
Seems to me if there was ever any legitimacy to your denial, the denial would have come first. Nobody goes to the lengths y'all have gone to with attempts to derail a thread, if they truly dispute matters they said; rather, they go into denial automatically. Sometimes timing is everything. In this case, the choice to introduce this now after several pages have gone by, comes across as any port in a storm.
**Note: Sound documentation, as it relates to our purpose, is the objective written Word of God (the Holy Bible) as compared to Grand Lodge issued Masonic literature buttressed by quotations from well-known Masonic authors.
That's a laugh. Anybody who has ever followed your posts knows that the "buttressing" generally comes first with you, and it's "Grand Lodge material" whenever you choose to get around to it--if ever. A stated methodology is just that--stated. The proof is in the pudding.
By way of example: You were away from this forum for quite some time. I returned here quite some time before you eventually returned. Let's check out what kinds of material you began appealing to for your arguments from the very outset when you came back and posted on the "Can a Christian be a Freemason?" thread:
(1) "As one Ex-Mason for Jesus put it,"
(2) Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma, pages 213-219
(3) Indiana Monitor & Freemason's Guide, 1993 Edition, page 41
(4) The Craft and Its Symbols by Allen E. Roberts - Page 6
(5) Masonic Manual of Minnesota, p16, 1998
(6) William Larson, 33° Kenton Lodge #145 of the Grand Lodge of Oregon
(7) Max Müller
(8) Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
(9) Grand Lodge of California
(10) Theistic Satanism
(11) Golden Dawn
(12) Past Master, HJPT of Fargo, ND
(13) Eric Charpentier, Royal Victoria #57, Grand Lodge of Quebec
(14) Henry Wilson Coil 33°, Coils Encyclopedia of Freemasonry
(15) William Steve Burkle KT, 32°
(16) What I cited from a 32° Mason, on a well-Masonically-respected website
(17) Mike Gentry on the O.F.F. website
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[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif'](18) [/font]Grand Lodge of Indiana, Indiana Monitor & Freemason's Guide, 1993 Edition, page 41
(19) The Lost Keys of Freemasonry, by Manly Palmer Hall
(20) Grand Lodge of Louisiana
(21) Wilmshurst, Meaning of Masonry, page 209
(22) Albert Mackey, from your very own Grand Lodge of South Carolina,
(23) Chapter 27, The Legend of the Third Degree, The Symbolism of Freemasonry
by Albert G. Mackey
(24) The History Of Freemasonry by Albert G. Mackey 33°
(25) George Oliver, The History of Initiation
(26) Wilmshurst, Meaning of Masonry, page 209
(27) J. D. Buck, George H. Steinmetz, and other well-known Masonic authors
(28) Masonic author J. D. Buck 32° Symbolism or Mystic Masonry (1897)
(29) R. Swinburne Clymer, M. D., The Mysticism of Masonry (1924)
(30) S. R. Parchment, Ancient Operative Masonry (1930)
(31) George H. Steinmetz, Freemasonry Its Hidden Meaning (published in 1948 by Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company)
(32) Grand Lodge of Indiana, The Master Mason
(33) Henry C. Clausen, 33° former Scottish Rite Sovereign Grand Commander, Your Amazing Mystic Powers(1985)
(34) J. D. Buck - A Militant Mason by Bro. Joseph Fort Newton, 33°
(35) The Builders, by Joseph Fort Newton, [1914], page 53
(36) PIKE, MACKEY AND THE ANCIENT MYSTERIES by S. BRENT MORRIS, 33°
(37) en.wiktionary.org/wiki/
(38) PIKE, MACKEY AND THE ANCIENT MYSTERIES by S. BRENT MORRIS, 33°
(39) Ancient Accepted Scottish Rite Valley of Cleveland
(40) According to the Masonic Service Association
(41) Freemasonry and Hinduism: Chhotalal Pattni Talks to Julian Rees about Links, Freemasonry Today - Spring 2007 - Issue 40
(42) The following was presented in St. Michael Lodge No. 2933 in Singapore on 29th July, 2006 by a distinguished Muslim Mason by the name of Shaikh Hatim Fidahussein Nakhoda, a Past Master of District Grand Lodge of the Eastern Archipelego, UGLE.
(43) Islam and Freemasonry, W. Bro. Shaikh Hatim Fidahussein Nakhoda PM, Research Lodge St. Michael No. 2933, Singapore Dictrict Grand Lodge of the Eastern Archipelago, UGLE.
(44) AN EXAMINATION OF THE MASONIC RITUAL by W. Bro. Meredith Sanderson
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[FONT='Verdana','sans-serif'](45) [/font]WOR. BRO. J.S.M. WARD, M.A., F.S.S. (Author of Freemasonry and the Ancient Gods.)
(46) MASONIC SYMBOLISM AND VEDANTA
by W.Bro.Chakravarthy Sampath Madhavan
Lodge Jyothi # 253, Salem
Grand Lodge of India.
(47) Albert Pike
(48) Colin Dyer: Symbolism in Craft Freemasonry
(49) F.V.Mataralay: The Masonic Way
(50) W.L.Wilmhurst: The Meaning of Masonry
(51) INTRODUCTION TO FREEMASONRY - ENTERED APPRENTICE by CARL H. CLAUDY
(52) As Albert Pike said
(53) Me and millions, upon millions, of other Christians
(54) it's been shown HERE where the Qu'ran is open during the first three degrees in Masonry in Muslim countries. [NOTE: it was "shown" with an unattributed "citation" whose source was not revealed, and comment declined when questioned about it]
(55) Wilmshurst, Meaning of Masonry, page 209
(56) Wilmshurst, Meaning of Masonry, page 212
(57) CAPRO Apologetics Project website Cults/Freemasonry
(58) CARM forums
(59) Henry W. Coil, 33º Coils Masonic Encyclopedia, page 512
(60) Henry W. Coil, 33º Coils Masonic Encyclopedia, page 512
(70) Carl Claudy, Foreign Countries, page 11
(71) Conscience and the Craft by the Grand Lodge of New Mexico, 1992, pages 2-3 [NOTE: "Conscience and the Craft" is by Jim Tresner, NOT the GL of New Mexico, the attribution is false. Moreover, you did not quote this from the GL of New Mexico, you quoted it from Steven Tsoukalas, "Masonic Rites and Wrongs," who MADE the false attribution in his paper. Just one more case among many, of your plagiarism in citing without attribution]
(72) Grand Lodge of Florida, Lodge System of Masonic Education, Booklet 1, pg. 11
(73) Albert Pike 33º, Morals and Dogma, pages 213-219
(74) Encyclopedia of Freemasonry by Albert G. Mackey 33º, rev. ed., Vol. 2, 1966, pages 846-47
(75) The Mystic Tie by Albert Mackey
(76) Lexicon of Freemasonry by Albert Mackey
(77) Robert Macoy 33º, A Dictionary of Freemasonry, page 324
(78) Joseph F. Newton, The Builders, pages 250-251
(79) T. S. Webb Masonic Monitor
(80) Lost Keys of Freemasonry by Manley P Hall
(81) Freemasonry: An Interpretation by Martin L. Wagner
(82) every Masonic ritual contains the following
(83) my point is eminently clear,if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck, its a duck!
(84) Roy L. Demming, S.W., of the Utah Research Lodge
(85) Union Lodge #48 under the auspices of the Grand Lodge of Maryland
(86) The Bible in Masonry By R.W. and Rev. Joseph Fort Newton, 33º Mason
(87) Garfield Lodge #41 under the auspices of the Grand Lodge of Washington
(88) MasonicDictionary.com
(89) "The Great Light in Masonry" by R.W. and Rev. Joseph Fort Newton, 33º Mason, page 85
(90) Holman Masonic Bible
(91) Entered Apprentice - Candidate Guide by the Grand Lodge of CA
(92) Bill McElligott under the auspices of the United Grand Lodge of England
(93) "Jurisprudence of Freemasonry" by Albert G. Mackey From the Grand Lodge of South Carolina
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