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Easter Sunday, being the day celebrated by the Christian church in commemoration of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, is appropriately kept as a feast day by Rose Croix Freemasons. (Mackey, Encyclopedia, “Easter”)







[Note: Lodges I have been in use the same sign with every prayer.]

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The agreement of the principles of Freemasonry with those of Christianity can only be denied by the malevolent or those totally unacquainted with the Craft. (Mackey, Encyclopedia, under “Paul, Saint, the Apostle”)






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[Note: Compare this with many comments made in his Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, published later in his life, and the difference between the statements made here, and those later, can easily be seen. Mackey was much more disposed toward Christian interpretations after he had disavowed his earlier presuppositions about early origins of Msaonry.]

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The real picture remains clear. The VSL is the Great Light; the Bible, Koran and so forth merely parts of it. The VSL is the rule & guide; the Bible, Koran and so forth merely parts of it. And as your quotes showed, they are all just symbols of the revealed will of God, whatever his name might be, each equally valid. Only that and nothing more.

As to the muslim, if the Bible really had such an important place in Masonry, all candidates would have to take their obligation on it. But they don't and it isn't.

A couple of things you missed.
Not really. As already noted, the VSL is the Great Light, which most American jurisdictions select the Bible to be thus classified; however, it is still the VSL that IS the Great Light, and all its parts meet that definition as well. That the Bible is used merely reflects a decision on the part of the GL, and one that could be changed.


It would be ludicrous to suggest that the Christian would view anything as the VSL but the Holy Bible.
Well, since there are none in Masonry, that's debatable. But the concept is very Masonic. You would find nothing wrong with participating in an EA degree for a Muslim using the Koran, and the alterations in the ritual that would come with that. Therefore, you would agree by your presence that they are interchangeable.


You guys have rehashed this one since the time it was first presented,
And we have shown that it is the VSL that is the Great Light. Your MSA quote proves that:


They're pretty clear that the VSL is the 'rule and guide' and that one must be there. It's also clear that any book held to be holy meets the criteria for a VSL. Despite the practices of masonic lodges, the Bible is directly equated to the Book of Mormon and the Koran as examples, or symbols, of God's will revealed to man.

Other, and more knowledgeable, Masons would disagree:
What is meant by the Volume of the Sacred Law? The holy book of one's prevailing faith and the Great Light in Freemasonry. (PA GL, 100 questions)
The Three Great Lights of Masonry are the Holy Bible, or Volume of the Sacred Law (VSL), the square, and the compass. (CA GL, EA Guide)
You are simply, and yet spectacularly, mistaken. Cordially, Skip.
 
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Wayne:
This is one of your quotes:

Do you agree with his thoughts in that matter? I'd say it's a perfect example of Masonic thought. Cordially, Skip.
 
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Do you agree with his thoughts in that matter?

Well, let's look at it:

Well, those DO seem to be the three possibilities.

Where we differ is, I don't try to presume upon God, who is the only one who REALLY knows the answer, and so I leave that up to Him, firm in the assurance that I DO know who I am praying to.

And thanks for not disappointing me with your predictability. I knew before I ever posted all this, that you'd be certain to single this out for a response.
 
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Pretty slick angling, but you still overlook the fact that by the title of the thread, the only "VSL" under consideration here is the Holy Bible.

As for your "other, more knowledgeable, Masons would disagree," I already indicated there were exceptions. I'm not surprised that you would go to the trouble to locate them. But you have mis-stated matters on a couple of particulars:

they are all just symbols of the revealed will of God, whatever his name might be, each equally valid.
Masonry makes no statement, nor any determination, of "validity." And it seems to be a standard feature, in discussing VSL's, to speak of "OTHER jurisdictions." In the U.S., it's the Bible. I notice most of your sources are careful to point that out as well.

if the Bible really had such an important place in Masonry, all candidates would have to take their obligation on it.
It's the one book upon which all its principles are based. No manner of taking obligations will change that.

That the Bible is used merely reflects a decision on the part of the GL, and one that could be changed.
In the U.S., it's the Bible. When that does change, you be sure and get back with me, hear?

Despite the practices of masonic lodges, the Bible is directly equated to the Book of Mormon and the Koran as examples, or symbols, of God's will revealed to man.
No "equation" to it. "VSL" is the symbol, as the term is generally understood. The traditional statement USED to be that it was the Bible that was the symbol. But since you insist on following the trend of removing the Bible, the term VSL must be used. And the meaning of the symbolic "VSL" depends on the individual. The Bible is used in the U.S., because Masons in the U.S. are generally Christians. To a Christian, the Bible is not "equal" with books of other faiths, it is the only book we use. You are trying to confuse neutrality with equality, which won't hold up no matter how you choose to prop it.

Funny thing, this "proof" of yours. I don't see "Great Light" anywhere in that quote at all. Must be that wonderful imagination of yours.
 
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The phrase in the Masonic ritual, "The lion of the tribe of Judah," is Messianic and refers to Christ, the anointed of God and royal head of God's Kingdom. (Missouri Lodge of Research, “Key Masonic Words and Phrases”)
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Every well grounded lodge is furnished with the Holy Bible, the Square, and the Compass; the Bible points out the path that leads to happiness, and is dedicated to God;
(Joshua Bradley, Some of the Beauties of Freemasonry, p. 56)
 
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