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Inner divisions have for me been the biggest hurdles of all, my mental illness made sure such was hardest to beat!

In The End I found three main groupings that one could call the 'culprits' in me.

Not loving myself, God, or other!


  • Not loving myself suffered from self-hate where I made heartless demands from myself!:blush:
  • Not loving others suffered from selfishness, where my own needs and wants were more important than others.:blush:
  • Not loving God form the two above as well as unfaithful love, loving wrong.:blush:
Jesus advised me to follow His Way where love for self comes from Dad upstairs and love for other is easily as good as love for self.

A hard lesson it turned out to be not to take too much for myself at one time, and very hard to give any at other times yet that were the lessons I had to learn to deal with myself balanced and lovingly as well as with others in all my ways.

Now such takes a life-time to learn but brings Good Life even when the going is hardest.:thumbsup:


The Living Word Saves
Meeting Jesus down in my deepest Pit
brought an end to all my inner pain
For lovingly The Word made me fit
to have my Good Life back again.

First The Farmer pulled up my weeds
digging up the dirt and rocks within me
then lovingly sowing His Good Seeds
in time harvesting me most abundantly!

Yes The Word's Voice in Spirit of Love
The Living Word brought me under His care
His love dwelling within me from up above
His everlasting Good Life with me to share.

So please do from your pit walk away
also farming His Good Life in your soul
finding New Life in God's Truth today
The LIVING WORD your constant goal.
 
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I found that the greatest aspect of The Faith is the concept of dying to the old and coming to life in the new, which in laymens terms means; that we stop doing it wrong, and begin to learn to do it right!:clap::clap::clap:

Now with my depression this became very clear was something that needed to be done. I found after a few years of careful observation that my time of depression always begun with self-blame, heeding accusations against me, which were previously made, but when not in my depressive cycle I simply had ignored.

I also found that my depressive cycle faith in God was basically no existent, and that I followed all kind of thoughts and ideas of other philosophies I otherwise had done. Maybes ruled often, a tooth for a tooth, and an eye for an aye, sacrifice, demand, and worst of all doubting, faithless times which grilled me with fear and so much more, like judgement, going to hell for sin, gnashing of teeth, regrets, unforgiven sin and worst of all unovercomeable sin, like my many addictions

Yet the strange part was that I cared deeply that I was a sinner and I had begged God for mercy and promised change and I always fought my sin hardest and tried not to be wrong and things like that.

But I always blamed myself for my bad times for I didn't know I was sick at first but even after I found out I was ill I kept doing it, in reality I was hating myself and punishing myself for who I was, and had always been, less than perfect.:doh:

Do you guys relate to this?:confused:

All of this was ALWAYS like that when I was depressed, and when I was not then I tried hardest not to be like depressed person and struggled with all those choirs I was behind on, driving myself, and pushing myself to conform to the norm around me, living two totally different lives.

Yet when Jesus came for His visit He taught me how sinful I reallly had been thinking unforgiven when I had been forgiven all along by Him and Dad and everyone else, (I'm crying the time of realization once more), and that I was sick and that was why I was depressed and not because of sins at all!

A Revelation that sealed the pit on my doubt and unbelief once and for all!

For Jesus said what you sow you shall harvest, for me to know why I was suicidally depressed at the time.

And so I had to relearn to love myself when I am depressed, I'm still battling hard here guys as some of you must know by now, that is when depression rules me at its worst and I go psychotic - but perhaps as much as 80 percent of my inner world has entered into His Rest - even when I'm psychotic.:amen::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

One by one I fell over as a loveless person towards myself. Jesus cut me down - He did!:bow::bow::bow:

So now I can pray and worship even when I totally floored by depression, much better that dwelling in hell where I once used to gnash my teeth regularly. :prayer:



Twice Blinded

What destroyer, where would he be?
The deadly snake bite I didn't see!
Still part of myself was dragged away,
held captive there by wicked sway,
all the lies sown in my soul,
day by day taking control,
feeding my life lies and misery,
my good times became history.

Bringing thoughts and feelings around,
which are in no way sound,
rather inner kings cruel and strong,
those worldly ways so very wrong,
raising Babylon in all her might,
holding me captive in my fright,
denying grace to rule my ways,
mocking God in His face.

Horse hooves trampling my soul,
grass-hoppers devouring all,
scorpion stings stinging,
famine upon famine bringing,
brimstone burn everything to ash,
massive hailstones me to smash,
the darkness ever growing close,
for the goats got me by the nose.

So working for another's bread,
God's loving truth I forget,
thinking my world would always stink,
driving my good life to the brink,
yet there at the bottom of my might,
I finally began to see the light..,
..Jesus, whom I bring so much grief,
when I have that liar as my chief!

And so The Truth did shine on me!
His Spirit alive in my heart to see!
Oh what blinding light I saw there?
God's goodness displayed everywhere!
His love washing me white as snow!
His loving truth inside my life to flow!
Oh Lamb of God forever to be praised!
For from the dead I have been raised!




 
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Depression persecutes us in our Good Life - personally I found a lot of comfort in Psalm 52 explaining the directions of an evil tongue!

At first I had not realised the betrayal of hopelessness, despair, loneliness, misery, and fear 'speaking' the same way as David's enemies once did, always against God's promises, ourselves, and others, right inside our own inner world of being such takes place.

Psalm 52


For the director of music. A maskil of David. When Doeg the Edomite had gone to Saul and told him: “David has gone to the house of Ahimelek.”

Why do you boast of evil, you mighty hero?
Why do you boast all day long,
you who are a disgrace in the eyes of God?


You who practice deceit,:o
your tongue plots destruction;:o
it is like a sharpened razor. :o
You love evil rather than good, :o
falsehood rather than speaking the truth.:o
You love every harmful word, :o
you deceitful tongue!
:o



Surely God will bring you down to everlasting ruin:
He will snatch you up and pluck you from your tent;
he will uproot you from the land of the living.


The righteous will see and fear;
they will laugh at you, saying,
“Here now is the man
who did not make God his stronghold
but trusted in his great wealth
and grew strong by destroying others!”


But I am like an olive tree
flourishing in the house of God;
I trust in God’s unfailing love
for ever and ever.

For what you have done I will always praise you
in the presence of your faithful people.

And
I will hope in your name,
for your name is good.
 
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Jeshu said:
I found that the greatest aspect of The Faith is the concept of dying to the old and coming to life in the new, which in laymens terms means; that we stop doing it wrong, and begin to learn to do it right!:clap::clap::clap:

Now with my depression this became very clear was something that needed to be done. I found after a few years of careful observation that my time of depression always begun with self-blame, heeding accusations against me, which were previously made, but when not in my depressive cycle I simply had ignored.

I also found that my depressive cycle faith in God was basically no existent, and that I followed all kind of thoughts and ideas of other philosophies I otherwise had done. Maybes ruled often, a tooth for a tooth, and an eye for an aye, sacrifice, demand, and worst of all doubting, faithless times which grilled me with fear and so much more, like judgement, going to hell for sin, gnashing of teeth, regrets, unforgiven sin and worst of all unovercomeable sin, like my many addictions

Yet the strange part was that I cared deeply that I was a sinner and I had begged God for mercy and promised change and I always fought my sin hardest and tried not to be wrong and things like that.

But I always blamed myself for my bad times for I didn't know I was sick at first but even after I found out I was ill I kept doing it, in reality I was hating myself and punishing myself for who I was, and had always been, less than perfect.:doh:

Do you guys relate to this?:confused:

All of this was ALWAYS like that when I was depressed, and when I was not then I tried hardest not to be like depressed person and struggled with all those choirs I was behind on, driving myself, and pushing myself to conform to the norm around me, living two totally different lives.

Yet when Jesus came for His visit He taught me how sinful I reallly had been thinking unforgiven when I had been forgiven all along by Him and Dad and everyone else, (I'm crying the time of realization once more), and that I was sick and that was why I was depressed and not because of sins at all!

A Revelation that sealed the pit on my doubt and unbelief once and for all!

For Jesus said what you sow you shall harvest, for me to know why I was suicidally depressed at the time.

And so I had to relearn to love myself when I am depressed, I'm still battling hard here guys as some of you must know by now, that is when depression rules me at its worst and I go psychotic - but perhaps as much as 80 percent of my inner world has entered into His Rest - even when I'm psychotic.:amen::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

One by one I fell over as a loveless person towards myself. Jesus cut me down - He did!:bow::bow::bow:

So now I can pray and worship even when I totally floored by depression, much better that dwelling in hell where I once used to gnash my teeth regularly. :prayer:

Twice Blinded

What destroyer, where would he be?
The deadly snake bite I didn't see!
Still part of myself was dragged away,
held captive there by wicked sway,
all the lies sown in my soul,
day by day taking control,
feeding my life lies and misery,
my good times became history.

Bringing thoughts and feelings around,
which are in no way sound,
rather inner kings cruel and strong,
those worldly ways so very wrong,
raising Babylon in all her might,
holding me captive in my fright,
denying grace to rule my ways,
mocking God in His face.

Horse hooves trampling my soul,
grass-hoppers devouring all,
scorpion stings stinging,
famine upon famine bringing,
brimstone burn everything to ash,
massive hailstones me to smash,
the darkness ever growing close,
for the goats got me by the nose.

So working for another's bread,
God's loving truth I forget,
thinking my world would always stink,
driving my good life to the brink,
yet there at the bottom of my might,
I finally began to see the light..,
..Jesus, whom I bring so much grief,
when I have that liar as my chief!

And so The Truth did shine on me!
His Spirit alive in my heart to see!
Oh what blinding light I saw there?
God's goodness displayed everywhere!
His love washing me white as snow!
His loving truth inside my life to flow!
Oh Lamb of God forever to be praised!
For from the dead I have been raised!

Thank you, jeshu. This was greatly encouraging and gave me lots to consider. You are blessed and are a blessing. Amen.
 
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Finding out my truths when it came to my addictions totally floored me, spun me out, and had me jumping from joy once I understood how Jesus wanted me to deal with my addictions.

I found that addictions are untrue loves, or rather unfaithful loves, for we go far to far in how we love a physical object, while we know what we are doing is wrong - we are stuck because we lose control over the things we are addicted to.

Addictions had to do with my flesh being stronger than my resolve/spirit!:blush::blush::blush::blush::blush::blush:

Now not that I hadn't cared or tried to stop my addictions, indeed very much so, and in almost all of them I still boasted some form of control, though when it came to stopping when I should in my depressive or high cycle the answer was always - NEVER - I was unstoppable. For example at my worst with my smoking addiction, I smoked near 100 cigarettes a day - unfiltered rollies (I rolled my own smokes) at that.:blush:

Addictions are horrible, for Christ's promise of freedom isn't true, unless you think, like I once did, that to be free means you can choose to remain addicted, which is simply bad theology when we can in almost all cases still eat or drink or enjoy our objects or subjects of our addictions after Christ has set us free, only my cigarettes I dumped for good.:cool:

Where Jesus Came into my life one thing that stood out, which was that once His Holy Love shone on a part of my life it was transform to a place of good, peace and rest. :clap:

Something which wasn't true in those parts of myself where I was still by sin divided from His grace by my addictions in particularly - often Jesus doesn't reign our addictions, we try, but the wicked are in control, first uncaring unfaithful love, and then guilt, shame, fear and accusations, that is what I found out about all that.:o

So Jesus advised me to let His love into my addictions and to let Him rule me in those parts in His truthful love over my unfaithful loves - until I learned. His Kingdom was so much appreciated by me,:prayer: for I saw that He was the One who had made my addiction possible,:bow: He was the Creator of Heaven and had provided me with my every need,:bow: He was The One who had laid down His Life so I could be like I was, a sinner who did things wrong and wasn't faithfully loving like Him.:bow:

Thankfulness and admiration begun flooded my heart and begun to kick out guilt and shame which had always ruled me in those parts of my life. For I saw the accuser of the brethren working through my guilty conscience, so I stopped heeding my conscience about my addictions and instead I began to serve Jesus while feeding or enjoying my addictions joyfully and peacefully.

In the mean time I admitted my deepest shames and guilts and thanked Him for my existence as a sinner in His loving care!:pray::pray::pray:

He showed me through His incredible patient love, how uncaring pride and easy going arrogance tried to keep my addiction alive, from which I always repented, and so loving Jesus while freely feeding from my addictions made my unfaithful love came out of me!

For Jesus showed me the full extent of my unfaithful love - yet mercifully He had me killed being like this with His faithful love, in all cases the tears of remorse are sweetest then!

This was how my addictive sins died out, one by one, each one giving me more love for Jesus, myself and for others by telling them - though most think I'm just a mad man raving - I swear by God it is the best way to deal with any addiction and learn to have faithful love at the same time, instead of being stuck with unfaithful love, and have Satan accusing like a dragon with that unfaithful harlot tempting riding on his back devouring good life, being addicted to, or always having to abstain from God's Good Creation, little fun in all that, isn't?

Not to heed any burning hot demands, which bring unfaithful love, shame, guilt, fear and accusations, but only Christ's forgiving love, which brings more thankfulness and love in that part of my life, that is the secret of my success when it came to my addictions. So when hot burning demands ruled I would NOT FEED from my addiction, but when forgiving love ruled then the coast is always clear, Christ's Kingdom is as simple as that - keep the vultures out I say.

And so my addictions stopped, one by one, (altogether over many years,) but I became truly a free man to make a choice yes or no with either answer making me fit to serve Jesus, that is the best part of letting Jesus deal with our addictions or any sin, it is His love that keeps me free, not self effort.:bow:

This is in a nutshell how Jesus set me free from my addictions - They have now all fallen, though I haven't quiet broken free from one addiction fully yet - still Jesus truly set me free, though I'm still mentally ill, though I'm still a sinner, yet Jesus is my Liberator, I can never tell you how much I love Him for setting free to be me.:bow:

All praise to Jesus.


John 8:31-32

To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
 
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One of the biggest shocks(Earthquakes) in my inner world of being was the realisation that depression was lying through my perceptions about everything I saw and heard and that the spiritual effects of depression fitted the bill spiritually when the Bible spoke about The Pit or about the great desolation.

This is what stood out in my life of depression. I was or had;


  • Pessimistic
  • Give up attitude
  • Guilt and shame ridden
  • Self hate
  • Despairing in self
  • loveless in application
  • many accusations against myself

These kings ruling who got many an hour at the helm in my divided inner world of being sowing more of such stuff in my dirt of inner being.:blush:

and so in my weakest self I was 'ruling' this walking wreck called Gerry:o:o:o

Unfaithful love lay behind it all for I had craved after wrong more than loved God, myself or other,:blush::blush::blush: - in my selfishness I had transgressed against God's commandments badly, especially when for seven years I run a muck crazed out of my brain completely unmedicated doing very stupid things.:doh:

Though I knew I was sick, depression had been with me since I was just a young teenager, perhaps even earlier - I had always though God was angry with me and now I had been doing the same, thinking God was angry with me because of sins I had previously committed in my selfishness.:doh:

The Accuser of the brethren got me bad folks!:doh:

No-one told me that that is who the Dragon was, that horrific cold-blooded monster in my guilty consciences, whom I had bred there with my own unforgiven sin. (Zech 3, Rev 12) I say unforgiven sins here not because God hadn't forgiven me, but because I had not forgiven myself.:doh::doh::doh:


When I read the Bible then began to see The Truth of my by depression generated desolation - it was a kingdom of lies set out to hurt me - and us all - because the wicked love to hurt us people - truly the desolation is their greatest achievement, for they stop caring hearts from changing things and chain them with their own misery. (Rev 9):doh:

And so the battle begun to grow Good Life back by pushing those lies ruling out of my bad life.

The thing which stood out was that - I had to relearn to love my self and not any more be selfish as I had often been in the past.

Humbly I asked God for a humble loving heart, I still do ask for that each day again for I never want to be selfish again, but I want to learn to love myself an ill person, to love myself a person who is far from perfect, to love myself as God loves me, just as I am - even when I change from day to day, or from moment to moment, to have respect for myself and to count myself worthy as a child of the most high, how ever small and insignificant I might be, in Jesus I find my purpose and honour.:bow::bow::bow:

And Guess what fellow strugglers He works for me!

He sows my crops and pulls up my weeds and He shares His abundance no matter how depressed I have to be, He hangs around and brings Good Life alive inside of my Bad Life and overcomes it, honestly true!:thumbsup:

That is how God grew my a new life, a life where I am able to fight my depressive moods and the lies that it brings and hold onto to The Truth of God no matter where my mood might take me, by letting His Truth unmask the lies of my depression.:thumbsup:


Father of Lies
Oh you lying tongue stealing our God given Good Life
squandering our abilities with that unfaithful harlot in our flesh
lightening those burning torches devouring our aching souls
those ugly deeds done while your lies ruled our fallen hearts!

All your offspring within us is numbered to die miserably
to hell with you and all those wicked ones ruling our life
it is you Satan who brought us all our woes, grief and pain
I will hate you forever for lying to us as you did and do.




 
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I can relate to those symptoms very very well. but is it really right to have such unforgiveness towards another created being? or perhaps you do not believe satan is a created being and that he is a mere symbol of wickedness?

do you really want your strength to be "I hate evil men"?
 
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I can relate to those symptoms very very well. but is it really right to have such unforgiveness towards another created being? or perhaps you do not believe satan is a created being and that he is a mere symbol of wickedness?

do you really want your strength to be "I hate evil men"?

I'm sorry friend I did not set-up this thread to debate my theology, nevertheless I have one thing to say about that.

Satan and his henchmen hate us and are even now scheming our hurt so they can have our good life.

Satan is irredeemable because of his wicked schemes for he loves to torture, murder and smite the others with the crap he brings up out of the Abyss to hurt us with.:cool:

So no I have no pity for evil monsters, indeed I rejoice in their destruction for then evil men become good people again.:thumbsup:

This also counts for us depressed people, the wicked hurt us, and hurt us, and hurt us, without ever showing pity, while they enjoy our good life and turn our existence into an abomination. For all of us people are holy and beloved of The Lord and none of us ought to suffer misery for any length of time seeing Christ paid the price, but yet the prince of this world goes on hurting us - so yes I rejoice seeing them loose their power over us and hurting their own created misery.:clap::clap::clap:

Wouldn't that be the Just Way to think seeing they brought our suffering about?


Rev 20:10

And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever. :clap::clap::clap:
 
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GOD is LOVE. but I saw no Love, and so I walked away. I hate myself anyways, so I am ok with suffering forever. love has grown cold far to many times in my eyes! I fell away from God because of the evil spirit of religion.

how dare the spirit of religion tell me I never knew God. I loved Him, even though my love was so imperfect. but now, I see cold has infested cold, and I just don't care any more. to see such selfishness in those who suffer, makes me sick, and I see it all the time, in me and in most others.


good luck with getting better though, I certainly won't hate you. sorry to derail your thread, if you want me to delete this post, I will. this is my good bye letter to you.
 
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GOD is LOVE. but I saw no Love, and so I walked away. I hate myself anyways, so I am ok with suffering forever. love has grown cold far to many times in my eyes! I fell away from God because of the evil spirit of religion.

how dare the spirit of religion tell me I never knew God. I loved Him, even though my love was so imperfect. but now, I see cold has infested cold, and I just don't care any more. to see such selfishness in those who suffer, makes me sick, and I see it all the time, in me and in most others.


good luck with getting better though, I certainly won't hate you. sorry to derail your thread, if you want me to delete this post, I will. this is my good bye letter to you.

I love you brother and so hope that you will let go of the cruel coldness instead of pleading for that.

Wouldn't God know you for real?

Trust in Him, God is love!:amen:
 
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How often have you been locked up because of mind control my friends, I know I have in the past really struggled with this.

You also know these times that no matter where your thoughts go you come up with zeros, no go, no pass, no further, stuck, no luck even.:o:o:o

These are darkest of hours when everything seems lost and you can feel yourself fallen down that hole, the pit we all know so well, all those who have been battling without winning.:o:o:o

When one looks at it spiritually we could talk about being lame, being paralyzed, deaf, blind and dumb, unable to help ourself, where every thought bombards us with more negativity, captive, sold into slavery even. I know I have been here more than once.:o:o:o

This is the worst kind of reign that mind control can bring us to. For the truth is in depression we often can't trust our thoughts to be in The Truth of God any longer but rather captive by 't depressive mind.

This is what dies when we heed Christ's loving truth instead of the horrible lies we have been believing because of our depression.

It is so easy to do isn't friends, and so hard not to - when it seems to be like that?:cool:

But we shouldn't want to serve a mind that demands and applies no love, and brings shame and guilt, and ties us up with fear - or should I say terror?:cool:

So I watched Jesus throw it out! He did that in one hour! He opened my eyes to the truth of my lies ruling, and how these lies I believed about myself and everyone else, were self perpetuating, and held me stuck because I believed those lies to be my truth, and therefore it had become that way, and was increasingly getting worse. :o

It was long battle not to repeat these sins in my daily life, three years of struggling against the desolation, though its powers evaporated in the love which Jesus was bringing to life in my mind instead, for I couldn't feel love any longer (This has only recently begun to grow back again, in little bit by little bit.:clap:)

All this while my cycles of depression kept going, for awhile I was unmedicated even, but that simply meant Christ got me at my worst times in as well.

For I found that to whatever issue, hurt, our problem I applied Jesus' love things got sorted out regardless of the fact that I am mentally ill, He still healed my spirit and brought my Good Life back..

Let go of a mind full of lies and just let Jesus rebuild you from day to day, in love, faith and hope - that is how He works Best!

Be greatly encouraged.:wave:
 
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As someone who believes in God's ability to do miracles, I suffered an extra amount of anguish. I didn't understand that signs, miracles and wonders, don't come a depressed person, overcome by lies, way very often, if at all.:o

Maybe this is just for manic people like me, but I often hoped God would cure me overnight and very often awaited His miracles in my deeply depressed life, always bringing me more darkness not less at The End of it, and unbelief, doubt and anger at God for not caring about me.:o

It took me years to realise why this was so.:o:o:o

I had to go through my depressive times, God had a purpose for me down so deep. I always wanted depression to go away and awaited God's miracles doing that, but God wanted me to go through depression, for clearly the truth is I'm a depressive person - so then one gets depressed. He wanted me to bring Him honour and glory a depressed person.:amen:

I didn't realise that behind my longing to have a miracle happening, lay a deeply depressed person, completely overcome by the lies of my depression, unable to stand up or go on, while God wanted to give me the ability to do just that.

So those dark times kept coming for years, those times I prayed for miracles but got only more depression at the end of it.

The Secret to having this stop is acceptance of how the truth really is.

When you are really depressed and can't go on - accept the situation first of all - and then humbly give your inability to God, and take in The Seed of His ability it its place and through faith, love and hope let the ability grow where once was none - stick around with Him!

Such takes time and were in faith we need to hold onto His truth and let go of the lies our depression have brought us.

For this is how His miracles begin to work, in real time He will rebuild you from weak to strong, from unable to able, from lame to walking, from blind to seeing, from deaf to hearing, even from death to alive, in all your heart His loving goodness to meet.:clap:

This is what He has done for me and continues to do, though my ill life marches on, so do His miracles - for once I could not, now I can, and what once floored me, now has me walking on, such is His ability past on to me over the last 4 or so years he is making me able to face life as a challenge rather than an impossibility.:angel:

Be of very good courage.:wave:
 
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I don't know about a lot of other people here, but for me one of the biggest stumbling blocks in my faith life being a depressed person had to do with - must do!

So many things in my faith life had to do with must do!

Partially I was so deeply depressed - for I thought I had too - but I couldn't - and therefore I hated myself in return for failing my own religious ideals.

Anyone recognise that?

Yet the big thing with Jesus is that to Enter His Rest we love too and there is no must at all, to love to do something can even been done when we are depressed, to must do something doesn't work very well at all when we are depressed, at least not for me, it brings stress big time.

So when Jesus came into my life He begun to do away with musts in my life, making me come much more to rest, and giving me a much more honest perspective of where I was really at. Very ill and in desperate need of a lot of loving care.

He taught me that must has to do with wrong that is why wrong must be done away with for must to go, just die to the old He advised me at the time, think in New Ways, think through the truths of the Bible with the mind of love and see for yourself where He gets you.


Peace:wave:

Bye Bye Old

I might as well die.
No perfection in my deeds,
Just agonising suffering,
What benefit to make it longer?
I might as well abscond,
my so called responsibility.
I'm just a bondsman,
A slave to my physical reality,
Stuck with forces that only want,
Forcing much hate on me,
Bringing me untold misery,
Raping me all day long!
It hurts to stay around,
Why not simply say goodbye,
Move on along the rippling tide,
Forgetting what is down here,
Finding new horizons appearing,
Instead of open warfare!
Why am I still fighting on?
Surely The Battle has been won,
Loving Truth is victorious,
Also over my life,
And that's all that matters,
In The End.
Bye bye old
I'll Dress in New.
 
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I love Love

I love Love because God's Love is our only true hope.
Love is a thing of the heart always practices good deeds.
Yes, to do lovable things always grows more of God's Love!
God's Love is the only force depression can't ever beat.
God's Love is what we all want dwelling in our hearts.
God's Loving Truth to guide us on our Way Back Home.
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Guilt, shame, regrets, fears, unwanted thoughts, not loved? This are the common realities escaping the despairing lips of those oppressed by depression.

For though depression is an illness the levels of despair and misery are always matched by those unloving realities dwelling within in us.:o

where the lies proceeding from the loveless wrongs within have the depressed person captive bitting them so to speak like a pack of ravenous wolves attacking catch 22 style.

The pain gets so bad because personal love is missing, the depressed person doesn't like him or herself, or a terrible crime has been committed against this person, or both.


I want to stress how important it is that we care for ourselves, care like we would a severely wounded person, for that is what depressed people truly are.:hug::hug::hug:

This is why it is so important that we plant love back into our hearts so that we have ammunition against the forces drawn up against us.

Simply ask Jesus to give you some love and then go to work with it. Also love begins like a seed but some grow up into life giving trees.

Be greatly encouraged.:wave:


My Vineyard.

My soul is a vineyard of the Lord.
He choose the site carefully
and dug my hardened soil deep.

He removed all rocks and stones
and built me a wall with them,
a defense so very strong.

He planted the choicest of vines,
in fertile ground He planted them
and watered them deeply.

He cares for the plants very well,
pruning them each season,
strong stock to propagate.

Also a watchtower did He make,
placing guards in it,
a watching eye on things.

A wine press He built as well,
for when my vines yield,
pressing the best of fruit.

The wine of Joy is what I get,
jubilant my maidens dance,
gladness running over.
 
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Mal 4:1-3

“Surely the day is coming; it will burn like a furnace. All the arrogant and every evildoer will be stubble, and the day that is coming will set them on fire,” says the LORD Almighty. “Not a root or a branch will be left to them. But for you who revere my name, the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its rays. And you will go out and frolic like well-fed calves. Then you will trample on the wicked; they will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day when I act,” says the LORD Almighty.


The promised liberation for those who love The Lord. In my case freedom came after seven years of deepest suffering, mainly so deep because of my own dislike for myself.:o:doh: I have a depressive illness I will always have times of depression, like now,:o yet the depth of suffering I suffered when I hated myself I never have to suffer again, for Jesus healed the hate and took away the pain and set me free to battle on without such times flooring me.

All praise to Jesus.:clap:
 
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Mal 4:1-3

“Surely the day is coming; it will burn like a furnace. All the arrogant and every evildoer will be stubble, and the day that is coming will set them on fire,” says the LORD Almighty. “Not a root or a branch will be left to them. But for you who revere my name, the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its rays. And you will go out and frolic like well-fed calves. Then you will trample on the wicked; they will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day when I act,” says the LORD Almighty.


The promised liberation for those who love The Lord. In my case freedom came after seven years of deepest suffering, mainly so deep because of my own dislike for myself.:o:doh: I have a depressive illness I will always have times of depression, like now,:o yet the depth of suffering I suffered when I hated myself I never have to suffer again, for Jesus healed the hate and took away the pain and set me free to battle on without such times flooring me.

All praise to Jesus.:clap:

Amen! I love the bolded part as well.

This is a great thread and I regret not reading much of it sooner. I look forward to more posts. :)
 
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Amen! I love the bolded part as well.

This is a great thread and I regret not reading much of it sooner. I look forward to more posts. :)

Thank you.
 
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It took me quite a long time to get out of my pit, years of depression made sure that I was very deep. It has to do with relearning to do things, especially inside my daily reality.

To not let shame and guilt grill me but hold onto the forgiving love of Christ, even though nothing in my life had changed as yet. It takes guts to fight fear and despair for so often it seemed true.

Only Christ and what He has done, not me and what I had done or was doing. It was a real spiritual battle whom Christ won for me in the end.

In the mean time I had learned to read the Bible in the Spirit of love and got rid of my judgments with its horrible accusations always casting shame, guilt and fear on me. Good riddance of bad music.


Forsaking The Pit.
As I climb over the rim, I clearly see,
Involuntary I shudder the sight in me,
Down without a bottom the pit below,
Yes this fiery hole within me on show!

Hear voices of darkness pressing hard on must.

Those 'speaking guilt, shame, unbelief, and distrust,
All together pushing, yes, pressing me deep,
Resisting my climb to the top so steep.

See those guilty feelings still tug my feet,

I can feel flames searing, my toes they meet!
Electrifying my soul, no mercy on show.
Why ever did I take this hell-hole in tow?

Above me the Light, Jesus, the Truth so high!

How long before I will meet up with Him in the sky?
He knows I will come after Him without a doubt,
As true nourishing goodness He is all about.

My bloodied fingers scraped by rock,

For how many years did they mock?
Those hard places within my very being,
Those fiery stones of my own seeing!

I climbed after the Light right above me,

The only truth that truly leaves me be,
Never will I stop seeking after The Light.
As Jesus Christ is my very soul's delight!

Soon the 'resting place' of my enemy,

Bottomless pit shall forever be!
For the ones without Love or Grace.
Those who with their lies made this place.
 
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