Bible IS SCIENCE, exposing misnamed 'science' today

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Sorry, that is not faith as used by Christians. In fact there is no evidence. That verse contradicts itself.

Sorry, but now you are making generalizations and assumptions.

 

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Sorry, but now you are making generalizations and assumptions.

No, I am drawing conclusions based upon observations and experience.

 

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Faith is not a theory. It is a logical fallacy, and usually wrong. It is none of what you claim at the end of your post.

Biblically, it is exactly that.

 

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No, I am drawing conclusions based upon observations and experience.

You are arguing against the biblical definition of faith?

 

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Biblically, it is exactly that.

Who cares? Realistically it is not.

 

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You are arguing against the biblical definition of faith?

Of course. Why would you rely on the Bible for such a definition? It smacks of circular reasoning.

 

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Who cares? Realistically it is not.

By realistically, you must mean what you will accept intellectually...which may have nothing to do with reality.

 

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Of course. Why would you rely on the Bible for such a definition? It smacks of circular reasoning.

Because the Bible is consistent with what is.

 

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By realistically, you must mean what you will accept intellectually...which may have nothing to do with reality.

No, I meant what I said. I am not a denier of reality.

 

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Check out Kent Hovind and Rob Skiba. Some awesome stuff.

A convicted criminal/known liar and this dude?

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Why would I want to check them out?

 

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Because the Bible is consistent with what is.

That does not appear to be the case. Especially when people make the mistake of interpreting it literally.

 

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I literally just showed you its unverifiable with photographic evidence. How much time must pass before my christmas tree turns into a dog? Where are the missing links? What is the sexual advantage of a half developed eye?

Oh look! PRATTs.

 

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Science is proving or disproving theories, it's a theory not fact. It's not natural law. It's the current guess and it's provably inaccurate.

- Science doesn't prove nor is scientific proof a thing.
- Theories are more powerful than individual facts.
- Natural law is part of philosophy, not science.
- No, theories are not guesses and evolution has never been falsified.

 

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Religion is a faith based belief. Faith is not allowed in the sciences. One has to be able to support one's claims with evidence.

Wrong, I didn't say to present your edifice of religion.

That's not what edifice means.

 

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No, I meant what I said. I am not a denier of reality.

"Reality is the sum or aggregate of all that is real or existent, as opposed to that which is merely imaginary. The term is also used to refer to the ontological status of things, indicating their existence.[1] In physical terms, reality is the totality of the universe, known and unknown."
Reality - Wikipedia

But, do you believe that there are things that are unknown to you? As for me, I freely admit that most everything is unknown to me, ha ha. But, what I have learned and experienced has been corroborated with Scripture, and not just with me, but with countless others...over thousands of years.

 

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That's not what edifice means.

"Definition of edifice


1: BUILDINGespecially : a large or massive structure
2: a large abstract structure holds together the social edifice— R. H. Tawney"
Definition of EDIFICE

The word "religion" has become very abstract.

 

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"The word is דָּת

listen and repeat. In the Bible (most commonly in the Book of Esther), the word means law or sentence in the legal sense. And since religion can be described as a set of laws, over time, the word דת came to refer to religion itself."
how to say "religion" in Hebrew | Ulpan La-lnyan

"Due to the wide range of its usage, the English word "religion" (from Lat. religio) is not easily defined. Most commonly, however, it refers to ways in which humans relate to the divine (a presence [or plurality of such] or force [sometimes construed as plural] behind, beyond, or pervading sensible reality that conditions but is not conditioned by that reality). All such "ways" include a system of beliefs about the divine and how it is related to the world. Most also involve an attitude of awe toward the divine, and a pattern of actions (rituals and an ethical code). By extension, "religion" is often used to refer to systems of belief and related practices that play an analogous role in people's lives (e.g., Buddhism, Confucianism, and even humanism). The word is, thus, an abstract term adaptable to a great variety of referents.

Neither the Hebrew nor the Aramaic languages of the Old Testament have a word with a corresponding semantic field. For that reason, one does not find "religion" or "religious" in most English versions of these Scriptures. English translators of the New Testament do use these words at times to render various forms of three Greek terms: deisidaimonia [deisidaimoNIVa], threskeia [qrhskeiva], and eusebeia [eujsevbeia]. Yet all three words also fail to fully capture the import of the more abstract English 'religion.'"
Religion Definition and Meaning - Bible Dictionary

 

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• "Therefore put away all filthiness and rank growth of wickedness and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls. But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. For if any one is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who observes his natural face in a mirror; for he observes himself and goes away and at once forgets what he was like. But he who looks into the perfect law, the law of liberty, and perseveres, being no hearer that forgets but a doer that acts, he shall be blessed in his doing. If any one thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this man’s religion is vain. Religion that is pure and undefiled before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world (James 1:21–27)"
• https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-difference-between-religion-and-faith

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That's religion and faith in a nutshell. They are the doing of what is conducive to life, as a result of taking in life principles and correct thinking, in order to gain increasing knowledge and enhanced ability to propagate life.

 

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"Reality is the sum or aggregate of all that is real or existent, as opposed to that which is merely imaginary. The term is also used to refer to the ontological status of things, indicating their existence.[1] In physical terms, reality is the totality of the universe, known and unknown."
Reality - Wikipedia

But, do you believe that there are things that are unknown to you? As for me, I freely admit that most everything is unknown to me, ha ha. But, what I have learned and experienced has been corroborated with Scripture, and not just with me, but with countless others...over thousands of years.

If you want to claim that something is real the burden of proof lies upon you. Good luck.

 

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• "Therefore put away all filthiness and rank growth of wickedness and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls. But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. For if any one is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who observes his natural face in a mirror; for he observes himself and goes away and at once forgets what he was like. But he who looks into the perfect law, the law of liberty, and perseveres, being no hearer that forgets but a doer that acts, he shall be blessed in his doing. If any one thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this man’s religion is vain. Religion that is pure and undefiled before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world (James 1:21–27)"
• https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-difference-between-religion-and-faith

(Emphasis mine)


That's religion and faith in a nutshell. They are the doing of what is conducive to life, as a result of taking in life principles and correct thinking, in order to gain increasing knowledge and enhanced ability to propagate life.

No, just more circular reasoning.