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You asked if we have a "transition... on camera." What do you think would be recorded when it comes to evolution?
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So when has it been observed Humans evolved?
What did we evolve from?
Where did we evolve from?
Where you there then to observe?
Are you saying this transition is on camera/been observed?
You wonder why there are so many creationists or sceptics of evolution?
It's because evolution has never been observed, and to most people believing in something which is not observable is irrational. Do you believe in pixies, leprachuans?
Definition of religion from astandard dictionary -
''a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe''
The theory of evolution therefore is religious.
The cause, nature and purpose of the universe are religious or philosophical questions and not science because no one was there to observe when it was created and why, or how etc.
Hence science is limited on these issues. We don't know the age of the earth or universe, we just have reasonable estimations. For example no one knows what day and what second the universe was made, scientists can only guess by a million or billion year estimate. However, if someone was there - we would know the exact date, hence we have some very precise times for battles and historical events since recorded history.
Evolution therefore is religious/faith-based/assumption etc.
This is all good and everything except for the fact that evolution has absolutely NOTHING to do with the "cause, nature, and purpose of the universe."
Close --How so? does evolution have rites and ceremonies? Holy texts? Deities?
Basics...
Cosmic Evolution: The origin of time, space and matter, by the Big Bang
This is actually being currently observed. We can see the further away things are, the faster they are moving away, showing an obvious expansion. My measuring their velocity, and calculating how long ago everything would have been in the same place, we come up with 13.75 billion years.
2. Chemical Evolution: The origin of higher elements from hydrogen.
We can look at a stars composition my simply pointing a spectrometer at it. There's a bit of explaining involved, so I'll provide a link on how it works. Basically, the larger the star is, the heavier elements it will fuse, starting with Hydrogen. Our own star only fuses this into Helium. while much heavier stars may form Iron
What is Spectroscopy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_nucleosynthesis
3. Stellar and Planetary Evolution: The origin of stars and planets.
We don't watch any single star being born then dying because their lifespans far exceed our own, however, we have billions upon billions of stars to look at, all of them in various stages of life. Suppose you've seen people be born and people die, but have never seen one person go through a whole life cycle -- you don't think you'd still understand a human life cycle by looking at the billions of other people on earth in various stages of life?
4. Organic Evolution: The origin of Life.
See: any thinking person's post in this forum.
5. Macro-Evolution: The changing from one kind of species to another kind of species.
Actually this is just #4, over a long period of time.
6. Micro-Evolution: The variation within kinds of species.
...and this is number 4 over a shorter period of time.
Only 6 has ever been observed though, all the others are not proven.
Keep on quoting Kent Hovind, though. Have fun!
Basics...
This is actually being currently observed.
We can see the further away things are, the faster they are moving away, showing an obvious expansion. My measuring their velocity, and calculating how long ago everything would have been in the same place, we come up with 13.75 billion years.
We can look at a stars composition my simply pointing a spectrometer at it. There's a bit of explaining involved, so I'll provide a link on how it works. Basically, the larger the star is, the heavier elements it will fuse, starting with Hydrogen. Our own star only fuses this into Helium. while much heavier stars may form Iron
What is Spectroscopy?
Stellar nucleosynthesis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
We don't watch any single star being born then dying because their lifespans far exceed our own, however, we have billions upon billions of stars to look at, all of them in various stages of life. Suppose you've seen people be born and people die, but have never seen one person go through a whole life cycle -- you don't think you'd still understand a human life cycle by looking at the billions of other people on earth in various stages of life?
See: any thinking person's post in this forum.
Actually this is just #4, over a long period of time.
...and this is number 4 over a shorter period of time.
Keep on quoting Kent Hovind, though. Have fun!
So when has it been observed Humans evolved?
That's not an answer. It's at best just an old myth. At worst it's not even a guess.Actually wether right or wrong, I am the only one of us that has a answer
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
What is yours? In the beginning.... ?
Actually wether right or wrong, I am the only one of us that has a answer
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
What is yours? In the beginning.... ?
You're a hypocrite. Who observed your deity creating the universe? THAT doesn't matter to you. It only matters that someone had to observe humans evolving. The point is that the process of evolution is very slow and takes eons. No one person could observe it. What we can observe are the pieces. We see the fossils of our ancestors. We see the similarities in the DNA. We see the endogenous retroviruses that mark us as absolutely descending from a common ancestor with many other creatures. We see the process of mutation, of natural selection, of genetic drift and of speciation. All these things together lead us to an inescapable conclusion. Man evolved.So when has it been observed Humans evolved?
A creature that was not man. A creature that was not chimp. But it's progeny became both.What did we evolve from?
Africa originally.Where did we evolve from?
Asinine and irrelevant question.Where you there then to observe?
Are you saying your god creating the universe is on camera has been observed?Are you saying this transition is on camera/been observed?
No, I don't wonder. It's because you're ignorant, scared and simple. Fighting the idea of evolution does two things. One, it buys you heaven points. Two, it saves you from having to not be special. In every other area of your life you're just spam. You're crap at work, you're crap at home. But you're a human being created in the image of God and you take great comfort from that little myth. Only if evolution is true you think that's false. It messes with your head. You don't like to have to think.You wonder why there are so many creationists or sceptics of evolution?
Your god is not observable but you believe in it. Hypocrite.It's because evolution has never been observed, and to most people believing in something which is not observable is irrational. Do you believe in pixies, leprachuans?
You're a hypocrite. Who observed your deity creating the universe? THAT doesn't matter to you.
It only matters that someone had to observe humans evolving. The point is that the process of evolution is very slow and takes eons. No one person could observe it. What we can observe are the pieces. We see the fossils of our ancestors. We see the similarities in the DNA. We see the endogenous retroviruses that mark us as absolutely descending from a common ancestor with many other creatures. We see the process of mutation, of natural selection, of genetic drift and of speciation. All these things together lead us to an inescapable conclusion. Man evolved.
Africa originally.
Are you saying your god creating the universe is on camera has been observed?
No, I don't wonder. It's because you're ignorant, scared and simple. Fighting the idea of evolution does two things. One, it buys you heaven points. Two, it saves you from having to not be special. In every other area of your life you're just spam. You're crap at work, you're crap at home. But you're a human being created in the image of God and you take great comfort from that little myth. Only if evolution is true you think that's false. It messes with your head. You don't like to have to think.
Your god is not observable but you believe in it. Hypocrite.
Again, the process of evolution takes eons. No one person could observe it all. But we have observed all the parts. There's no reason to think that these parts don't happen to all species in every aspect of life. We evolved. You are just another animal. Deal with it.
Definition of religion from astandard dictionary -
''a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe''
The theory of evolution therefore is religious.
The cause, nature and purpose of the universe are religious or philosophical questions and not science because no one was there to observe when it was created and why, or how etc.
Hence science is limited on these issues. We don't know the age of the earth or universe, we just have reasonable estimations. For example no one knows what day and what second the universe was made, scientists can only guess by a million or billion year estimate. However, if someone was there - we would know the exact date, hence we have some very precise times for battles and historical events since recorded history.
Evolution therefore is religious/faith-based/assumption etc.
So when has it been observed Humans evolved?
What did we evolve from?
Where did we evolve from?
Where you there then to observe?
Are you saying this transition is on camera/been observed?
You wonder why there are so many creationists or sceptics of evolution?
It's because evolution has never been observed, and to most people believing in something which is not observable is irrational. Do you believe in pixies, leprachuans?
Close --
The Bible says about some that -- professing themselves to be sapiens -- they ended up becoming atheists who worship Creation.
Romans 1:20 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
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So you are saying the universe was observed when it was created?
That has nothing to do with evolution, all it shows is that originally everything was created in the same place. That doesn't rule out creationism.
No one has ever observed a star evolve. According to mainstream astronomers it takes millions of years.
Why do you reject scientific facts?
And now you are changing the definition of science to what is non-observable and non-testable...not wise, since it opens science up to pseudo-science.
No one has observed when life originated.
Thats what the evolutionists say, but since this has never been observed its not science. You are still welcome to your faith in it though.
Thats what science is about - observing and testing, just a shame the evolutionists/atheists don't yet grasp the basics of science.
All of these 'forms' of evolution are in the dictionary.
If 'my old book' says it -- that settles it.In other words, anyone who doesn't agree with you is wrong because your old book says so.
There's more than one answer. Why do you dismiss the myriads of answers available?
In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood - index.htmlCreationists don't claim creationism is scientific.
It's not directly observable.However you claimed evolution is science, but then admit its not observable. Stop calling it a science then...its clearly a religion/faith/assumption.
Basics...
This is actually being currently observed. We can see the further away things are, the faster they are moving away, showing an obvious expansion. My measuring their velocity, and calculating how long ago everything would have been in the same place, we come up with 13.75 billion years.
We can look at a stars composition my simply pointing a spectrometer at it. There's a bit of explaining involved, so I'll provide a link on how it works. Basically, the larger the star is, the heavier elements it will fuse, starting with Hydrogen. Our own star only fuses this into Helium. while much heavier stars may form Iron
What is Spectroscopy?
Stellar nucleosynthesis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
We don't watch any single star being born then dying because their lifespans far exceed our own, however, we have billions upon billions of stars to look at, all of them in various stages of life. Suppose you've seen people be born and people die, but have never seen one person go through a whole life cycle -- you don't think you'd still understand a human life cycle by looking at the billions of other people on earth in various stages of life?
See: any thinking person's post in this forum.
Actually this is just #4, over a long period of time.
...and this is number 4 over a shorter period of time.
Keep on quoting Kent Hovind, though. Have fun!
Why would you mention his quoting of Kent Hovind? Is that not exactly what evolutionists do with Darwin and family? Or do you all make this stuff up yourselves?
Evolutionists compartmentalize themselves so they dont have to explain the science of evolution theory in a broad manner. Now I understand that you can take a snapshot at what God has made and try to explain how it "changes" over time. But if you dont believe God created it in the first place and further believe there is no God then, you need to be able to demonstrate the origin of evolution back to when nothing became something. - 1611AV
Otherwise dont act as if you have proven by evidence that God does not exist. Again for those who oppose God I ask, In the beginning...?
Not really. Evolution explains the diversity of life, not how it got here. It could have been poofed into existance by a magical unicorn, that doesn't effect whether it evolves or not.But if you dont believe God created it in the first place and further believe there is no God then, you need to be able to demonstrate the origin of evolution back to when nothing became something. - 1611AV
Just like beastman intelligence explains the origin of texts. Or purely stochastic processes explain the origin of the universe. Or evolutionary psychology explains the origin of faith. Materialists have been stating their beliefs for a while now. The only problem is you want special treatment and special regard when it comes to Darwinian evolution.Not really. Evolution explains the diversity of life, not how it got here.
What affects whether or not radar returns are caused by little men with flashlights is the visible evidence which can be obtained through "visible science" by means of the eye instrument. Not delving into "invisible science", or whether or not you can compare radio waves to magical unicorns or even if you believe that the appearance of blips on the radar is "poof" and thus nothing compared to visible science's vibrant delineations on little men with flashlights.It could have been poofed into existance by a magical unicorn, that doesn't effect whether it evolves or not.
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