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Twelve disciples? Here goes... extemporaneously... no google.Eleven brothers and one sister are too much to keep up with?
I take it learning the names of the disciples would have been an act of cruelty?
But I'll bet you can type the formula for gravity or mass/energy conversion or universal entropy or angular momentum or the Lorentz contraction without looking -- can't you?
My bad -- I stand corrected --Twelve disciples? Here goes... extemporaneously... no google.
Mat, John, Peter, Benjamin, Judas, Philip, James, Simon, Thomas, Bartholomew...
How'd I do?
Do you know what astrology [really] is?
In astrology, the configuration of the stars at the moment of ones' birth establishes a cause-and-effect relationship throughout their lifetime.
My bad -- I stand corrected --
Either that -- or it's demonic.Which is why astrology is complete and utter bunk.
Either that -- or it's demonic.
That said, I don't think astrology (in the true sense of the word) to be demonic, just rubbish
Are they mutually exclusive? Surely anything that distracts one from pursing the True Faith(tm) could be a tool of Satan, even if said thing is a fabrication.
Mr Dave, I don't think Tiberius was referring to the garden-variety astrology that comes on the comics page of the local newspaper.That said, I don't think astrology (in the true sense of the word) to be demonic, just rubbish
That said -- I'm talking about the real-deal astrology.And Vet, regarding your suggestion that the greater light is Jesus and the lesser light is the church (as in Genesis 1:16), how do you explain Genesis 1:14, which clearly states that these lights are intended to divide day from night and differentiate the seasons and years (and also apparently to act as signs; a Biblical support for astrology)?
In contrast, Moses prayed:One astrologer emphasizes that "an astrological chart is not something to be feared". But thousands of clients of astrologers will disagree. For many people, astrology produces a fear of the future. Although the goal of astrology is allegedly to give the client "power" over the future, in practice it doesn't work this way. This is because astrology teaches people to acknowledge the impersonal whim of the power that stars and planets exert over them.
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Astrologers complain that other astrologers who predict personal disaster, illness, or death are being insensitive or callous. But they are powerless to do anything about it because the astrologers who make such predictions are, after all, only engaging in astrology.
What's the explanation for the Crab? I can see how you can mould all these symbolic people and symbolic mammals into the story... but for the life of me I can't guess what crabs have to do with salvation.This book explains everything quite well:
The constellations, starting with Virgo (Jesus, born of a virgin) and ending with Leo (Jesus, the Lion of the tribe of Judah), paint a wonderful picture of salvation.
My favorite is Aries.
Known as a 'ram' in the corrupted Greek language, the Hebrews knew it as the Lamb.
When Jesus died on the Cross, it went dark from noon to three, and there, over the Cross, they saw Aries, the Lamb of God, slain from the foundation of the world.
Gemini is another favorite.
Known as twins in the corrupted Greek language, the Hebrews knew him as one and the same person; later revealed as Jesus Christ, King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
To make a long story short, the Greeks recognized Cancer as a crab, and the emphasis was on its claws as grasping and holding; but the Hebrews knew Cancer as a sheepfold.What's the explanation for the Crab? I can see how you can mould all these symbolic people and symbolic mammals into the story... but for the life of me I can't guess what crabs have to do with salvation.
Ah, OK. Interesting, considering that Cancer as a crustacean goes back to the Babylonians.To make a long story short, the Greeks recognized Cancer as a crab, and the emphasis was on its claws as grasping and holding; but the Hebrews knew Cancer as a sheepfold.
What's overlooked (or ignored) about this statement is that all observations require interpretation. We not only interpret what we observe in God's Word; we also interpret what we observe in God's creation, and in both cases our interpretation is often flawed. This is why scientific theories (supposedly based on observations in creation) are often falsified.I've heard TE's put it like this: when there's a conflict between our interpretation of God's Word and our observation of God's Creation, we should err on the side of Creation.
Job calls the Zodiac, "Mazzaroth".Ah well, it wouldn't be the first thing the Hebrews put their own spin on
Sorry AV but I feel the need to correct you on this one. The Greeks used the word Cancer ("karkinos" καρκίνοςTo make a long story short, the Greeks recognized Cancer as a crab, and the emphasis was on its claws as grasping and holding; but the Hebrews knew Cancer as a sheepfold.
I'm talking about the Greeks back in BC [whatever] calling that constellation, 'Cancer the Crab'.Sorry AV but I feel the need to correct you on this one. The Greeks used the word Cancer ("karkinos" καρκίνοςwhen referring to tumours especially breast cancer because they looked like or had the shape of a crab (tendrils spreading out reminded them of crab legs). The word cancer in Greek means crab. Hypocrates used this word just like many doctors used words that were descriptive of the disease. "Yellow fever", "Scarlet fever", are some examples.
The advantage Bible believers have is that their interpretation of God's Word is often inspired by God's divine Spirit, and not by mere fallible human intellect.
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