Bible code Cracked?

[bnkr327]

I'm hoping this is the right forum to ask this, and if it's not i'm hoping that the mods will be kind enough to place it in the correct forum.

I've been hearing roumors for about a week that someone had cracked it (at least part of a code).
Roumor also has it that who ever did it is publishing the whole thing - to the extent of 4 or 500 pages.

Has anyone heard/does anybody know about it??

Would REALLY Like to know.
Thanks.......

 

[Jipsah]

I've been hearing roumors for about a week that someone had cracked it (at least part of a code)

There is no "Bible code". It's all a scam designed to sell books. If anyone wants to know the secrets of the Bible, all they have to do is read it.

 

[he4rty]

saw a documentry on telly once and they used the same princples of the bible code to the novel moby dick (i think) and still managed to make some startling predictions.

 

[faithful one]

saw a documentry on telly once and they used the same princples of the bible code to the novel moby dick (i think) and still managed to make some startling predictions.

Really, what did the bible codes predict about Moby Dick??

 

[fuzzyh]

We obviously need to read the Bible forwards and get the whole thing down there, then try to read it backwards upside down and every third letter.

 

[he4rty]

Really, what did the bible codes predict about Moby Dick??

What they were trying to show is the method is flawed and can be used and manipulated on any type of book.

the best bible code is not every tenth letter or third but when you take every letter.

 

[mark53]

I'm hoping this is the right forum to ask this, and if it's not i'm hoping that the mods will be kind enough to place it in the correct forum.

I've been hearing roumors for about a week that someone had cracked it (at least part of a code).
Roumor also has it that who ever did it is publishing the whole thing - to the extent of 4 or 500 pages.

Has anyone heard/does anybody know about it??

Would REALLY Like to know.
Thanks.......

The answer to the 'code' is you. You and your faith and journey with God!

 

[JohnR7]

If anyone wants to know the secrets of the Bible, all they have to do is read it.

It takes the Holy Spirit of God to teach us and to guide us into all the truth.

 

[ThaYoun1]

what do these cracked bible codes claim?

 

[BrandonGray]

Once in order to show how easy it is to create a code, someone took Moby Dick and found a whole lot of stuff in it with their "code" that they made up. I think one of them was the Kennedy assassination and another was 9-11-01.

 

[xpiotosaves]

maybe you're thinking of the da vinci code

 

[xpiotosaves]

Once in order to show how easy it is to create a code, someone took Moby Dick and found a whole lot of stuff in it with their "code" that they made up. I think one of them was the Kennedy assassination and another was 9-11-01.

What will they think of next?

 

[Buzzbee]

Yes, the code is "cracked". It's cracked and crooked in its logic and reason, which simply is just plain irrationality and illogical nonsense for a Bible "code". Its a way to sell books and probbably somebody's wacky thinking and throwing out the rule of logic that says "correalation does not equal causation".

 

[CovenantRay]

Hello everyone:

Nobody has asked me, but here goes anyway....

To paraphrase Pastor Chuck Missler, in information theory, using spread spectrum technology, you would distribute your information all over the available bandwidth. If you have an advanced cordless phone, or have used recent tactical military communications, you would have used this technology. You also would wish to authenticate your message.

Just as there is no chapter in our bibles on baptism, but there are multiple references to it in the New Testament. If one chapter were to be lost, the important themes would be carried over into other books and other chapters.

Before computers, the scribes and rabbis discovered that there were certain skip sequences in the Torah, the first five books of the Old Testament.

The word "Torah" in hebrew is composed of 4 letters: tau vav resh heh.

Go to the start of Genesis in Hebrew, then go to the first "tau" and skip 49 letters you find a vav, skip another 49 letters you have resh, then another 49 and you have heh. Torah.

OK -- interesting but not convinced?

Go to the start of Exodus in Hebrew. Go to the first "tau" and skip 49 letters you find a vav, skip another 49 letters you have resh, then another 49 and you have heh. Torah.

Statistics were never my bag, but I passed three college level courses, and the probability is estimated at about one in three million for this to occur by chance.

OK -- interesting but not convinced?

In the next book, Leviticus, this 49 letter interval doesn't seem to appear -- I'll get back to this book further on.

In Numbers, the sequence is reversed with the heh resh vav tau in a 49 letter skip sequence.

The fifth book, Deuteronomy the sequence is identical to that in Numbers, spelling heh resh vav tau in a 49 letter skip sequence, spelling Torah backwards.

This seems to be too deliberate to be given simply to chance.

If you examine the book of Leviticus, at a skip sequence of 7 (square root of 49) yields something interesting. After the first yod, after an interval of 7, the next letter, and so on, yields the tetragrammaton or YHWH.

Genesis Exodus Leviticus Numbers Deuteronomy
TORH ---> TORH ---> YHWH <--- HROT <--- HROT

It appears that the Torah always points toward to the Ineffable Name of G-d.

(Pro 25:2) It is the glory of God to conceal a thing, but the glory of kings is to search out a matter.

This is but one example, and my opinion is that this is a type of signature or authentication in the message.

Are we to jump from this information to search for our future in these codes? NO!!!!!!! The law of the Torah forbids fortune telling, divination, astrology, etc. Are we to take this as one more evidence to build our faith? I'll leave that to you to answer.

The paraphrases above are taken from "Cosmic Codes" by Pastor Chuck Missler. PM me for more information if you want to find a copy.

Food for thought?

CovenantRay

 

[justified]

Let's not bring Chuck Missler into this, please. That man should not be allowed near scripture.

 

[PaladinWithGun2]

Hello everyone:

Nobody has asked me, but here goes anyway....

To paraphrase Pastor Chuck Missler, in information theory, using spread spectrum technology, you would distribute your information all over the available bandwidth. If you have an advanced cordless phone, or have used recent tactical military communications, you would have used this technology. You also would wish to authenticate your message.

Just as there is no chapter in our bibles on baptism, but there are multiple references to it in the New Testament. If one chapter were to be lost, the important themes would be carried over into other books and other chapters.

Before computers, the scribes and rabbis discovered that there were certain skip sequences in the Torah, the first five books of the Old Testament.

The word "Torah" in hebrew is composed of 4 letters: tau vav resh heh.

Go to the start of Genesis in Hebrew, then go to the first "tau" and skip 49 letters you find a vav, skip another 49 letters you have resh, then another 49 and you have heh. Torah.

OK -- interesting but not convinced?

Go to the start of Exodus in Hebrew. Go to the first "tau" and skip 49 letters you find a vav, skip another 49 letters you have resh, then another 49 and you have heh. Torah.

Statistics were never my bag, but I passed three college level courses, and the probability is estimated at about one in three million for this to occur by chance.

OK -- interesting but not convinced?

In the next book, Leviticus, this 49 letter interval doesn't seem to appear -- I'll get back to this book further on.

In Numbers, the sequence is reversed with the heh resh vav tau in a 49 letter skip sequence.

The fifth book, Deuteronomy the sequence is identical to that in Numbers, spelling heh resh vav tau in a 49 letter skip sequence, spelling Torah backwards.

This seems to be too deliberate to be given simply to chance.

If you examine the book of Leviticus, at a skip sequence of 7 (square root of 49) yields something interesting. After the first yod, after an interval of 7, the next letter, and so on, yields the tetragrammaton or YHWH.

Genesis Exodus Leviticus Numbers Deuteronomy
TORH ---> TORH ---> YHWH <--- HROT <--- HROT

It appears that the Torah always points toward to the Ineffable Name of G-d.



This is but one example, and my opinion is that this is a type of signature or authentication in the message.

Are we to jump from this information to search for our future in these codes? NO!!!!!!! The law of the Torah forbids fortune telling, divination, astrology, etc. Are we to take this as one more evidence to build our faith? I'll leave that to you to answer.

The paraphrases above are taken from "Cosmic Codes" by Pastor Chuck Missler. PM me for more information if you want to find a copy.

Food for thought?

CovenantRay

I have found through my little walk with God that the Bible is an awe-inspiring work: It's alive, relevant, and perfect. When I go over scripture I've read many times before and find a new treasure, I am simply amazed. But codes? I don't think God needs codes. We're entrusted with his wisdom, his instruction, his will as established for the generations. If we accept that codes are in the Bible because there is knowledge hidden that is not for every believer, then we are like the gnostics who claimed faith wasn't enough - ya got ta have da special knowledge! (oh, and they held that Jesus had a REAL close relationship with Mary Magdalene)

It's hard to fault anything that draws one deeper into the Word, but it's about faith and love, not IQ and skill at puzzles. I hope I do not offend, but this is a strong belief of mine, so I might tread a little heavy.

 

[prophecy4]

Hello everyone:

Nobody has asked me, but here goes anyway....

To paraphrase Pastor Chuck Missler, in information theory, using spread spectrum technology, you would distribute your information all over the available bandwidth. If you have an advanced cordless phone, or have used recent tactical military communications, you would have used this technology. You also would wish to authenticate your message.

Just as there is no chapter in our bibles on baptism, but there are multiple references to it in the New Testament. If one chapter were to be lost, the important themes would be carried over into other books and other chapters.

Before computers, the scribes and rabbis discovered that there were certain skip sequences in the Torah, the first five books of the Old Testament.

The word "Torah" in hebrew is composed of 4 letters: tau vav resh heh.

Go to the start of Genesis in Hebrew, then go to the first "tau" and skip 49 letters you find a vav, skip another 49 letters you have resh, then another 49 and you have heh. Torah.

OK -- interesting but not convinced?

Go to the start of Exodus in Hebrew. Go to the first "tau" and skip 49 letters you find a vav, skip another 49 letters you have resh, then another 49 and you have heh. Torah.

Statistics were never my bag, but I passed three college level courses, and the probability is estimated at about one in three million for this to occur by chance.

OK -- interesting but not convinced?

In the next book, Leviticus, this 49 letter interval doesn't seem to appear -- I'll get back to this book further on.

In Numbers, the sequence is reversed with the heh resh vav tau in a 49 letter skip sequence.

The fifth book, Deuteronomy the sequence is identical to that in Numbers, spelling heh resh vav tau in a 49 letter skip sequence, spelling Torah backwards.

This seems to be too deliberate to be given simply to chance.

If you examine the book of Leviticus, at a skip sequence of 7 (square root of 49) yields something interesting. After the first yod, after an interval of 7, the next letter, and so on, yields the tetragrammaton or YHWH.

Genesis Exodus Leviticus Numbers Deuteronomy
TORH ---> TORH ---> YHWH <--- HROT <--- HROT

It appears that the Torah always points toward to the Ineffable Name of G-d.



This is but one example, and my opinion is that this is a type of signature or authentication in the message.

Are we to jump from this information to search for our future in these codes? NO!!!!!!! The law of the Torah forbids fortune telling, divination, astrology, etc. Are we to take this as one more evidence to build our faith? I'll leave that to you to answer.

The paraphrases above are taken from "Cosmic Codes" by Pastor Chuck Missler. PM me for more information if you want to find a copy.

Food for thought?

CovenantRay

amen, i have that chuck missler tape and it all makes sense to me.

 

[CovenantRay]

Shalom everyone:

After various PMs, perhaps it is time to clarify my position here:

1) I think that Pastor Chuck Missler is an interesting teacher.
2) Some of his stuff is definately "Out there"
3) I am not steering anyone to his site, to buy his books, or anything else.

Regarding bible codes:

1) It is a sin to use any method of divination, spiritualism, astrology, secret knowledge, or anything of that sort.

2) Is it within G-d's nature to leave his [figuratively speaking] "fingerprint" within his word? My theology allows this.

3) Whatever your view on the codes, there are multiple layers of meaning within the text in the bible, there are different applications for scripture each time I read a given section.

This is not a faith issue for me. The codes have become a circus and I don't put stock in extremes that they've been put to.

Not that I'm an expert, please take any personal discussion of this issue to me in PM to avoid clogging this forum.

Thanks,

CovenantRay

 

[prophecy4]

Shalom everyone:

After various PMs, perhaps it is time to clarify my position here:

1) I think that Pastor Chuck Missler is an interesting teacher.
2) Some of his stuff is definately "Out there"
3) I am not steering anyone to his site, to buy his books, or anything else.

i agree that he has some crazy views, but i realized that i have some of the same crazy views. we need someone that is not a puppet and just repeats what they hear. i think chuck is that person. he is not bound by tradition, but questions and looks for real answers.

Regarding bible codes:

1) It is a sin to use any method of divination, spiritualism, astrology, secret knowledge, or anything of that sort.

2) Is it within G-d's nature to leave his [figuratively speaking] "fingerprint" within his word? My theology allows this.

3) Whatever your view on the codes, there are multiple layers of meaning within the text in the bible, there are different applications for scripture each time I read a given section.

i think the codes would be absolute proof of God's existence. if you look at how complex some of them are and where they are located in relation to what they say, it's hard to deny that God had His hand in it.

This is not a faith issue for me. The codes have become a circus and I don't put stock in extremes that they've been put to.

Not that I'm an expert, please take any personal discussion of this issue to me in PM to avoid clogging this forum.

Thanks,

CovenantRay

i think the codes make my faith more concrete. i don't base my faith on the codes, but it is just further proof for me.

 

[Clay123]

The reality of the code in the bible rest in the evidince itself, the fact is in almost any book you can use equal distant letter sequencing,{ an equal number of letters between letters, when all of the letters in a book are placed one after another}, and get some information on some event that the author had no idea would be there, this in of itself is amazing, the differince with the bible can be compared to, the dfferance between a stick of dynamite, and a nuclear bomb. The statistical evidence of there being information coded in the bible is overwhelming, but it is intricately related to the meaning in the plain text. Even the US goverment has looked at the statistics and has acknowledged the existance of a code, The point is you could put your name, age , and date of birth into moby dick and most likely get nothing using this process, but if you tried it using the bible, chances are you would find information directly related to you, your past, and this means it was there before you were born!!!!!!