Beth Moore

[catofhope]

Just looking for thoughts about Beth Moore and her Bible Studies.

The new Baptist church I am attending does a lot of her Bible Studies.

I tend to get leary when so much emphasis is placed on one person or their work.

Thanks in advance.

 

[HumbleMan]

Everything I've seen from her seems to be solid. And you're right, focusing on one person/source isn't healthy. That's why I'm leary of the current PDL craze.

 

[JuJube]

fwm...I've done one of her bible studies "Jesus the One and Only" that is a study in the book of Luke. She loves God and His Word. You can learn a lot from her. I've read most of her books also. She has an incredible testimony and doesn't hold back about what she has gone through experiencing God in her walk. She is talked about a lot becaused she has shared a lot.

 

[mesue]

Just looking for thoughts about Beth Moore and her Bible Studies.

The new Baptist church I am attending does a lot of her Bible Studies.

I tend to get leary when so much emphasis is placed on one person or their work.

Thanks in advance.

Me too. It's okay to use other like minded Christians as a reference, but to rely heavily on their work, instead of the Lord's work speaks to me of laziness and very little Bible study on the Pastor's and leaders' part.
But is Beth Moore like minded? I don't know. I do have a lot of issues with Rick Warren.

 

[JuJube]

Me too. It's okay to use other like minded Christians as a reference, but to rely heavily on their work, instead of the Lord's work speaks to me of laziness and very little Bible study on the Pastor's and leaders' part.
But is Beth Moore like minded? I don't know. I do have a lot of issues with Rick Warren.

I believe that she is. I don't know about Rick Warren.

 

[catofhope]

From her Living Proof Ministries website:

"Beth remains very dedicated to her home fellowship, Houston’s First Baptist Church, where she teaches a 700-member Sunday School class. There she hosts an interdenominational Tuesday-night Bible study for women in her city. Because of her burden for unity in the body of Christ, Beth counts serving women of all denominations as one of her greatest privileges in life."

 

[JuJube]

From her Living Proof Ministries website:

"Beth remains very dedicated to her home fellowship, Houston’s First Baptist Church, where she teaches a 700-member Sunday School class. There she hosts an interdenominational Tuesday-night Bible study for women in her city. Because of her burden for unity in the body of Christ, Beth counts serving women of all denominations as one of her greatest privileges in life."

Wow, her SS class has really grown. I remember it to be at 500. But I can understand why, she is very dedicated to the Lord and His truth and people are lead to be under her teaching.

 

[Flynmonkie]

I really like Beth Moore. The impression I have of her is one of humility (my favorite virtue) One of the first books I think that every Christian should read by her is "When Godly People Do Ungodly Things" this includes men. In fact, it was a man that suggested it to me after it had a profound effect on his thinking! I think a lot like Beth, so I have enjoyed everything I have ever read from her.

Others that I have and think would not only be an asset to any library, but are “must reads” are:

• Breaking Free
• Believing God http://www.lifeway.com/believinggod/
• A Heart Like His: Intimate Reflections on the Life of David
• The Patriarchs
• Praying God's Word

She is coming to our church in February for a luncheon. I cannot wait!
God is doing great things with this woman!

 

[DiscipleOfIAm]

My wife did a study group based on her David series. Great stuff. Nothing of concern with her that I could see.

 

[newbeliever02072005]

Just looking for thoughts about Beth Moore and her Bible Studies.

The new Baptist church I am attending does a lot of her Bible Studies.

I tend to get leary when so much emphasis is placed on one person or their work.

Thanks in advance.

I did one of her studies last winter "Breaking Free; Making Liberty in Christ a Reality in Life"

I really enjoyed it. She has such a heart for God and it shows in her presentation. I think maybe the reason why she is so popular is because she really can relate to all kinds of people and it doesn't hurt she has a good sense of humor

The church you are attending now, have you thought about researching other bible studies and presenting it to the members? Maybe your opinions and research of another speaker is exactly what they are needing to break away from doing Beth Moore. Can't hurt to try


Well good luck and I hope you enjoy her study if you decide to participate in it.

God bless,
Newbeliever

 

[catofhope]

I did one of her studies last winter "Breaking Free; Making Liberty in Christ a Reality in Life"

I really enjoyed it. She has such a heart for God and it shows in her presentation. I think maybe the reason why she is so popular is because she really can relate to all kinds of people and it doesn't hurt she has a good sense of humor

The church you are attending now, have you thought about researching other bible studies and presenting it to the members? Maybe your opinions and research of another speaker is exactly what they are needing to break away from doing Beth Moore. Can't hurt to try


Well good luck and I hope you enjoy her study if you decide to participate in it.

God bless,
Newbeliever

It's not a speaker situation just doing her Bible Study via books.

Considering I am BRAND new to the church and community I do not want to make waves - yet.

And I do believe it is appropriate to be concerned about anything we take in other than the Bible. (refers to comments of another post)

Thanks for all the comments and especially to mesue who also PMed me.

 

[mesue]

...Thanks for all the comments and especially to mesue who also PMed me.

anytime

 

[RED that's ME]

Even though we have Beth Moore classes at my church, I haven't taken the classes. I did take several Precept classes that Kay Arthur does & they are intense and a blessing. As long as the classes are Biblical & help you grow in your faith, there shouldn't be a problem who writes or puts them together.

 

[catofhope]

Just looking for thoughts about Beth Moore and her Bible Studies.

The new Baptist church I am attending does a lot of her Bible Studies.

I tend to get leary when so much emphasis is placed on one person or their work.

Thanks in advance.

A reminder of what this thread was suppose to be about.

Thanks.

 

[Erinwilcox]

This thread is closed for staff clean-up. When it is re-opened, please stick to the OP.

 

[FreeinChrist]

This thread has been reopened. Please remember to stick with the topic in the OP

 

[FreeinChrist]

My church is particiapting in a Beth Moore simulcast this Saturday. I have to miss it unfortunately. Several of my friends though have enjoyed her books. I have never heard anything negative about her at all.

 

[KarrieTex]

Just looking for thoughts about Beth Moore and her Bible Studies.

The new Baptist church I am attending does a lot of her Bible Studies.

I tend to get leary when so much emphasis is placed on one person or their work.

Thanks in advance.

Beyond Kay Arthor and Elizabeth George, Beth Moore is just a solid and Godly woman for women Bible study. My church has an emphasis on her for the women's studies.

 

[PrincetonGuy]

Just looking for thoughts about Beth Moore and her Bible Studies.

The new Baptist church I am attending does a lot of her Bible Studies.

I tend to get leary when so much emphasis is placed on one person or their work.

Thanks in advance.

Beth Moore is a member of Houston’s First Baptist Church and she teaches a Sunday school class there. Therefore we can fairly safely assume that her beliefs are consistent with the beliefs of Houston’s First Baptist Church.

These beliefs are stated in some detail here:

http://www.houstonsfirst.org/pdf/our_beliefs.pdf

The header should immediately raise some very bright red flags! It reads, “The Baptist Faith and Message.” Since the very large majority of Baptist churches believe very differently on many of the points in this statement of faith, it is NOT the Baptist faith and message but the faith and message of this particular Baptist church.

A very large part of Beth Moore’s teaching is based upon the branch of theology known as soteriology, and from her church’s statement of faith we learn that they believe in lordship salvation rather than free-grace salvation. I share this view myself, very strongly, but many Baptist churches just as strongly disagree with it.

Very disturbing to me is the following paragraph from their statement of faith:

“Man is the special creation of God, made in His own image. He created them male and female as the crowning work of His creation. The gift of gender is thus part of the goodness of God's creation. In the beginning man was innocent of sin and was endowed by his Creator with freedom of choice. By his free choice man sinned against God and brought sin into the human race. Through the temptation of Satan man transgressed the command of God, and fell from his original innocence whereby his posterity inherit a nature and an environment inclined toward sin. Therefore, as soon as they are capable of moral action, they become transgressors and are under condemnation. Only the grace of God can bring man into His holy fellowship and enable man to fulfill the creative purpose of God. The sacredness of human personality is evident in that God created man in His own image, and in that Christ died for man; therefore, every person of every race possesses full dignity and is worthy of respect and Christian love.”

The words, “Therefore, as soon as they are capable of moral action, they become transgressors and are under condemnation” directly contradict what the New Testament says in Romans 5:12-21 and the historical teaching of the doctrine of original sin. This is a VERY serious error and I have never seen it before in a Baptist statement of faith although I have encountered some Baptist lay people who believe this.

The words, “Through the temptation of Satan man transgressed the command of God, and fell from his original innocence whereby his posterity inherit a nature and an environment inclined toward sin” represent a theological viewpoint that is not taught in the Bible as a doctrine but that many people have deduced from the observation of human behavior and an inadequate understanding of what our English Bibles call the “flesh.” This is especially relevant to Beth Moore’s teaching because it is an explanation, but not necessarily a correct explanation, of why sin is so prevalent among people. Another explanation, and I believe the correct explanation, is that although we sinned in Adam and are therefore culpable of his sin, our flesh is not sinful, but weak without the strength that the Holy Spirit gives to us to overcome temptation, which is external. Teaching that we have a sinful nature to overcome serves only to make us more susceptible to temptation. Therefore, Beth Moore’s teaching, while helping some, could very easily hurt others. And notice the words “and an environment,” an interesting phrase to find in a Baptist statement of faith.

There are several other points in this statement of faith with which very many if not most Baptists would strongly disagree with and I would not recommend this church to any one, and I would be VERY careful about recommending the reading of any of Beth Moore’s books. I have no doubt that her books have helped many, but they need to be read with much caution lest the reader be influenced to believe teachings that contradict the Bible.

 

[KarrieTex]

Beth Moore is a member of Houston’s First Baptist Church and she teaches a Sunday school class there. Therefore we can fairly safely assume that her beliefs are consistent with the beliefs of Houston’s First Baptist Church.

These beliefs are stated in some detail here:

http://www.houstonsfirst.org/pdf/our_beliefs.pdf

The header should immediately raise some very bright red flags! It reads, “The Baptist Faith and Message.” Since the very large majority of Baptist churches believe very differently on many of the points in this statement of faith, it is NOT the Baptist faith and message but the faith and message of this particular Baptist church.

A very large part of Beth Moore’s teaching is based upon the branch of theology known as soteriology, and from her church’s statement of faith we learn that they believe in lordship salvation rather than free-grace salvation. I share this view myself, very strongly, but many Baptist churches just as strongly disagree with it.

Very disturbing to me is the following paragraph from their statement of faith:

“Man is the special creation of God, made in His own image. He created them male and female as the crowning work of His creation. The gift of gender is thus part of the goodness of God's creation. In the beginning man was innocent of sin and was endowed by his Creator with freedom of choice. By his free choice man sinned against God and brought sin into the human race. Through the temptation of Satan man transgressed the command of God, and fell from his original innocence whereby his posterity inherit a nature and an environment inclined toward sin. Therefore, as soon as they are capable of moral action, they become transgressors and are under condemnation. Only the grace of God can bring man into His holy fellowship and enable man to fulfill the creative purpose of God. The sacredness of human personality is evident in that God created man in His own image, and in that Christ died for man; therefore, every person of every race possesses full dignity and is worthy of respect and Christian love.”

The words, “Therefore, as soon as they are capable of moral action, they become transgressors and are under condemnation” directly contradict what the New Testament says in Romans 5:12-21 and the historical teaching of the doctrine of original sin. This is a VERY serious error and I have never seen it before in a Baptist statement of faith although I have encountered some Baptist lay people who believe this.

The words, “Through the temptation of Satan man transgressed the command of God, and fell from his original innocence whereby his posterity inherit a nature and an environment inclined toward sin” represent a theological viewpoint that is not taught in the Bible as a doctrine but that many people have deduced from the observation of human behavior and an inadequate understanding of what our English Bibles call the “flesh.” This is especially relevant to Beth Moore’s teaching because it is an explanation, but not necessarily a correct explanation, of why sin is so prevalent among people. Another explanation, and I believe the correct explanation, is that although we sinned in Adam and are therefore culpable of his sin, our flesh is not sinful, but weak without the strength that the Holy Spirit gives to us to overcome temptation, which is external. Teaching that we have a sinful nature to overcome serves only to make us more susceptible to temptation. Therefore, Beth Moore’s teaching, while helping some, could very easily hurt others. And notice the words “and an environment,” an interesting phrase to find in a Baptist statement of faith.

There are several other points in this statement of faith with which very many if not most Baptists would strongly disagree with and I would not recommend this church to any one, and I would be VERY careful about recommending the reading of any of Beth Moore’s books. I have no doubt that her books have helped many, but they need to be read with much caution lest the reader be influenced to believe teachings that contradict the Bible.

You are not correct in this. First Baptist of Houston which is just down the street from mine...Second Baptist is no different than most Southern Baptist Churches.
They believe in the inerrant Word of God, the Trinty, Salvation by Grace and so forth and so on.

Your concern is not a contradiction of Romans. It is a statement however about the Age of Accountabilty which Paul also speaks about...children being sanctified by their parents.

I am also surmising that you have not read Beth Moore or seen her teach because you are beyond off on what she believes.

As for your recommendation, as a Houstonian, this is a good church. As every church it does have it's problems, however it is a bibically sound church and I have no problem with it's teachings being a contradiction to God's Word.