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Benny Hinn.

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We need to test the spirits against the word of GOD.

As far as the light goes
2 Corinthians 11:14
And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

This post is not my intention to indicate that Hinn is Satan Just say test him against the word of GOD.

Do you believe the girl's story in the video?
 
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Because they are both lying through their teeth?

We've seen him do that, so it's hardly a far fetched possibility. People will make up all kinds of stories to look holy and clean out their congregation. And I do understand that at first it's hard to imagine someone would have the nerve to do that in the name of Christ/God, and how unbelievable it sounds, but money can do things to people. We don't understand it, and it may sound crazy, because we would never consider even thinking about doing such a thing, but it happens, I have zero doubt about it.

The inability to believe someone would do that, is what keeps some in his congregation coming back. Some of these are good people that have been deceived.

Mathew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

What about Dave Bryan in California, his story?
 
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What about Dave Bryan in California, his story?

I have not listened to or read any of the stories that you have put forth. I am not a fan of Hinn therefore I do not listen to him. This is based on the following quote from from Unmasked.....Benny Hinn

"When you were born again the Word was made flesh in you. And you became flesh of His flesh and bone of His bone. Don't tell me you have Jesus. You are everything He was and everything He is and ever shall be... Don't say, 'I have.' Say, 'I am, I am, I am, I am, I am'" (ibid.)
"When you say, 'I am a Christian,' you are saying, 'I am mashiach,' in the Hebrew. I am a little messiah walking on earth, in other words. That is a shocking revelation. ...May I say it like this? You are a little god on earth running around" (Praise-a-Thon, TBN, 6th November'90)

This is not what the Bible teaches. This is OSAS and being equal to God in your sin. "I Am" is another name for GOD.

This statement IMHO is blasphemy.
 
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I have not listened to or read any of the stories that you have put forth. I am not a fan of Hinn therefore I do not listen to him. This is based on the following quote from from Unmasked.....Benny Hinn

"When you were born again the Word was made flesh in you. And you became flesh of His flesh and bone of His bone. Don't tell me you have Jesus. You are everything He was and everything He is and ever shall be... Don't say, 'I have.' Say, 'I am, I am, I am, I am, I am'" (ibid.)
"When you say, 'I am a Christian,' you are saying, 'I am mashiach,' in the Hebrew. I am a little messiah walking on earth, in other words. That is a shocking revelation. ...May I say it like this? You are a little god on earth running around" (Praise-a-Thon, TBN, 6th November'90)

This is not what the Bible teaches. This is OSAS and being equal to God in your sin. "I Am" is another name for GOD.

This statement IMHO is blasphemy.

Do you view TRIN ministries as suspect?
 
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So you think the Furious Love story was a fabrication for attention?

You'll have to point me in the direction of that and the other people/incidents you mention a few posts up. I don't know about anything that wasn't in the video and if those were, I missed them.

I did watch it, and here are some comments/opinions...

When hinn supposedly picked here out of the crowd, do they have a recording of that? I noticed the the crowd
cheered when she said that, but how in the world do they even know the claim is a fact? And doesn't hinn often point to the crowd and say there is someone out there with this that ot the other problem? That's an old trick used by people like him, as well as people that supposedly speak to the dead, they never point directly at anyone, just mention a few things that by odds, are bound to have happened to someone in the crowd and those people are convinced he's talking to them...It's a complete joke

Her and the people she grew up, having supernatural powers to move things via Kinetic energy. The act was nothing to them, a way of life for her and others. seems to me someone someplace on the planet would have recorded
that at some time or another if it was so trivalent an ability? Seem also, 60 minutes or the like would be showing it being studied and have show on it if it was real. I don't believe she or they could "move things without moving them", not for a minute. And things like these discredit the rest of her claims. There may have been a few true events that this was built around, but still I believe it was built/fabricated for the most part.

The piano that give this a "show" atmosphere and added dramatics. All well spoken/practiced as any good "show" would be.

She was chosen the be the bride of Satan himself, just the thing to bring scads of attention to Hinn if he delivers her from that.

The lady on the phone? I already commented on that. We have no idea if that happened or not. Got to have some documentation of this stuff, otherwise they are merely claims, but the deceived will buy into them in a minute. We would be foolish to, especially with what we already know about the man.

The scary part...she pastors a church of here own. She helps Hinn be a hero, and her association with him and her story helps her in her path to be just like him.

Are my suspicions correct? I don't have the resources to prove it one way or another. However, Hinn has been seen/heard with our own eyes/ears to be a false prophet... that's huge, and all we really need know. He's also been outed by the media that does have the resources to get to the bottom of what he is (not sure if it was 60 Minutes or Nightline that exposed him or even both). Way too many things point to this being, just another part of the Hinn scam, I personally don't believe her overall story, but be assured, the truth will come out in the very end..
 
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This is not what the Bible teaches. This is OSAS and being equal to God in your sin. "I Am" is another name for GOD.

Exactly and it makes perfect sense he would teach OSAS. The easier the religion, the biggherr the gongregation, the bigger the congregation the fatter the wallet.

And the "little god's" thing...he's not the only one. Makes people feel important to be little gods, even more reason to fatten Hinns wallet.

The man is know as a scammer, and has been for many a year, but it's clear, some are absolutely under his spell. all one can do is expose him and hope a few of them wake up to what is so obvious.
 
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You'll have to point me in the direction of that and the other people/incidents you mention a few posts up. I don't know about anything that wasn't in the video and if those were, I missed them.

I did watch it, and here are some comments/opinions...

When hinn supposedly picked here out of the crowd, do they have a recording of that? I noticed the the crowd
cheered when she said that, but how in the world do they even know the claim is a fact? And doesn't hinn often point to the crowd and say there is someone out there with this that ot the other problem? That's an old trick used by people like him, as well as people that supposedly speak to the dead, they never point directly at anyone, just mention a few things that by odds, are bound to have happened to someone in the crowd and those people are convinced he's talking to them...It's a complete joke

Her and the people she grew up, having supernatural powers to move things via Kinetic energy. The act was nothing to them, a way of life for her and others. seems to me someone someplace on the planet would have recorded
that at some time or another if it was so trivalent an ability? Seem also, 60 minutes or the like would be showing it being studied and have show on it if it was real. I don't believe she or they could "move things without moving them", not for a minute. And things like these discredit the rest of her claims. There may have been a few true events that this was built around, but still I believe it was built/fabricated for the most part.

The piano that give this a "show" atmosphere and added dramatics. All well spoken/practiced as any good "show" would be.

She was chosen the be the bride of Satan himself, just the thing to bring scads of attention to Hinn if he delivers her from that.

The lady on the phone? I already commented on that. We have no idea if that happened or not. Got to have some documentation of this stuff, otherwise they are merely claims, but the deceived will buy into them in a minute. We would be foolish to, especially with what we already know about the man.

The scary part...she pastors a church of here own. She helps Hinn be a hero, and her association with him and her story helps her in her path to be just like him.

Are my suspicions correct? I don't have the resources to prove it one way or another. However, Hinn has been seen/heard with our own eyes/ears to be a false prophet... that's huge, and all we really need know. He's also been outed by the media that does have the resources to get to the bottom of what he is (not sure if it was 60 Minutes or Nightline that exposed him or even both). Way too many things point to this being, just another part of the Hinn scam, I personally don't believe her overall story, but be assured, the truth will come out in the very end..

What are you saying about her-making up stories?
 
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If you had a large ministry, some folks would be saying the same things about you.

A large ministry with extravagant homes/wealth just to name a few things....I can only hope they'd say the same about me...maybe I'd wake up.
 
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Exactly and it makes perfect sense he would teach OSAS. The easier the religion, the biggherr the gongregation, the bigger the congregation the fatter the wallet.

And the "little god's" thing...he's not the only one. Makes people feel important to be little gods, even more reason to fatten Hinns wallet.

The man is know as a scammer, and has been for many a year, but it's clear, some are absolutely under his spell. all one can do is expose him and hope a few of them wake up to what is so obvious.


A lot of people don't trust Angela Greenig or Patricia King either.
 
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What are you saying about her-making up stories?

If it's not proven it could easily be made up. And just the fact she is associated with a charlatan, doesn't help the odds of my believing a thing she says. Simple logic/common sense.
 
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If it's not proven it could easily be made up. And just the fact she is associated with a charlatan, doesn't help the odds of my believing a thing she says. Simple logic/common sense.

Do you believe the story that Dave Bryan in California said? He basically told the story that anton lavey died because God cut his silver cord before he could take control of her body before Halloween to save his daughter's life.
 
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A lot of people don't trust Angela Greenig or Patricia King either.

The best/quickest and most efficient way I know of to find out about these people is to go to youtube or even Google (I prefer the videos YT offers) type in their name followed by false prophet, and or false teacher, or whatever. And just because someone says they are that, doesn't mean they are, but those people have checked them out and can often show us video and other absolute proof right there and right away on what they are. Just like the Hinn video proving he is no profit by Biblical standards, and that should tell us plenty, thing like that offset everything.

Just give fair benefit of doubt before proof is found. and I say that because we will find so many to be the false teachers the bible speaks of, that we tend to just assume all of them are. Assuming that would likely be pretty close but still one must be fair in their discernment.
 
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The best/quickest and most efficient way I know of to find out about these people is to go to youtube or even Google (I prefer the videos YT offers) type in their name followed by false prophet, and or false teacher, or whatever. And just because someone says they are that, doesn't mean they are, but those people have checked them out and can often show us video and other absolute proof right there and right away on what they are. Just like the Hinn video proving he is no profit by Biblical standards, and that should tell us plenty, thing like that offset everything.

Just give fair benefit of doubt before proof is found. and I say that because we will find so many to be the false teachers the bible speaks of, that we tend to just assume all of them are. Assuming that would likely be pretty close but still one must be fair in their discernment.

 
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Do you believe the story that Dave Bryan in California said? He basically told the story that anton lavey died because God cut his silver cord before he could take control of her body before Halloween to save his daughter's life.

LOL, tell me, doesn't that reek of untruth to you? I mean just what you told me there.

If it walks like a Duck, there is a great probability it is.
 
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I struggle to see how these healers can heal the blind and lame, but we never see them at St Judes hospital or shriners.

Exactly correct.

If they are true miracle healers, then they are being the most cruel and evil people ever to not heal people as you describe.
 
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