Benny Hinn

[JimB]

publicly calling someone a false teacher behind their back is slander. Like it or not.



But obviously we will not agree on this so to stop the arguing we disagree lets leave it with that.

I don’t know. If a person says there are “nine” persons in the Trinity (as one leading evangelist whose initials are BH once claimed in the first edition of his book, Welcome, Holy Spirit, then either he is a false teacher or is very bad at math, whether we tell him that to his face or not. You discern what is spoken as truth, not just the individual and a nine-member Trinity is not the truth. He sought to “clarify” himself in October 1990 on his TV program by saying, See, God the Father is a person, God the Son is a person, God the Holy Spirit is a person. But each one of them is a triune being by himself. If I can shock you, and maybe I should, there's nine of them."

Well, I was shocked ... and I removed Welcome Holy Spirit from our store shelves (I owned a Christian bookstore at the time).

But, would I have to travel all the way to BH’s offices to tell him to his face that that kind of view is false or else be guilty of “slander”. Heck, I don’t have the time or money to travel to [wherever his office is headquartered these days], so I’ll just have to take what he says for what he believes.

To his credit, though, after receiving a lot of deserved flak, BH backed off his rather creative view of the Trinity saying he was no theologian and he was wrong and the passages were removed from later editions of the book.

~Jim

 

[probinson]

When I read one of those fictitious post about how someone says they know someone who was healed at a Benny Hinn meeting, ....

Why don't you just come right out and call us liars? That's precisely what you're saying anyway.


And by calling us liars, when we are not liars, did you know that you are bearing false witness against us and indeed making yourself a liar? Do you know what the Bible says about those who bear false witness against others? For starters, it's one of the 6 things the LORD hates;

Proverbs 6:19
a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.

Proverbs 12:17
A truthful witness gives honest testimony, but a false witness tells lies.

Proverbs 14:5
A truthful witness does not deceive, but a false witness pours out lies.

Proverbs 14:25
A truthful witness saves lives, but a false witness is deceitful.

Proverbs 19:5
A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who pours out lies will not go free.

Proverbs 19:9
A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who pours out lies will perish.

Proverbs 21:28
A false witness will perish, and whoever listens to him will be destroyed forever.
​

 

[irenemcg]

We are saved by grace- not works, nor are we saved by perfect theology. A relationship with Jesus christ is what it's all about. Whether Benny's motives ae all pure is between him and God. God is using him.

 

[ScottK]

 

[lismore]

When I read one of those fictitious post about how someone says they know someone who was healed at a Benny Hinn meeting, the Holy Spirit brings the following scripture to my mind-

Hi there!



People get healed at a Benny Hinn Meeting.........Im sorry but you use so much antiquated theological jargon that you are un intelligible.

Who then is more like Christ Jesus? Someone who heals the needy or someone who makes up big words and philosophies?

Acts 10: 38how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.

Even Paul said:

1 Corinthians 2:4 NIV
My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit's power.

 

[lismore]

Even if someone is healed at a BH crusade, what does that prove?

Its not a case of prove. Its a case of the person in pain is healed and is not in pain anymore. And we are not talking about one, but thousands.

 

[pdudgeon]

I don’t know. If a person says there are “nine” persons in the Trinity (as one leading evangelist whose initials are BH once claimed in the first edition of his book, Welcome, Holy Spirit, then either he is a false teacher or is very bad at math, whether we tell him that to his face or not. You discern what is spoken as truth, not just the individual and a nine-member Trinity is not the truth. He sought to “clarify” himself in October 1990 on his TV program by saying, See, God the Father is a person, God the Son is a person, God the Holy Spirit is a person. But each one of them is a triune being by himself. If I can shock you, and maybe I should, there's nine of them."

Well, I was shocked ... and I removed Welcome Holy Spirit from our store shelves (I owned a Christian bookstore at the time).

But, would I have to travel all the way to BH’s offices to tell him to his face that that kind of view is false or else be guilty of “slander”. Heck, I don’t have the time or money to travel to [wherever his office is headquartered these days], so I’ll just have to take what he says for what he believes.

To his credit, though, after receiving a lot of deserved flak, BH backed off his rather creative view of the Trinity saying he was no theologian and he was wrong and the passages were removed from later editions of the book.

~Jim

thanks for clarifying this, Jim M.

So in essence what you are saying is that Benny Hinn said one thing, was taken to task for it, tried to explain what he ment, was taken to task for it, rethought what was said, and retracted his original comments.

Does that about sum this up? Because if it does, then i have made that same kind of error not once but many times. the only difference is that i'm not an internationally known figure.

something we need to get over ourselves here is that everyone can make a mistake--even when they're a celebrity--and say things that later need to be retracted.

But if what was said is admitted to be wrong and retracted, is it fair to bring it up years later?

 

[Jesusong]

On page 139 of his book, "Good Morning Holy Spirit," Benny Hinn writes the following about the Godhead:

"what is true about one does not necessarily apply to all three. They are different, even in the way They move and in the way They talk. We've already discussed the fact that members of the Godhead are distinct persons -- yet they are one."​

How does Benny Hinn define this oneness? We don't have to search for long. On page 140 of the same book (i.e., "Good Morning Holy Spirit") we read:

"The Trinity, as we will see, is comprised of three distinct and unique entities. But you need to understand Their Oneness -- Their unity. It is essential that you recognize that the all-embracing Oneness we are talking about is connected to the work of the Godhead" (Italics in the original book).​

On October 13, 1990 (on his broadcast), Benny Hinn said:

"See, God the Father is a person, God the Son is a person, God the Holy Spirit is a person. But each one of them is a triune being by himself. If I can shock you, and maybe I should, there's nine of them."​

And does it matter how old the quotes are? The book I mentioned could still be purchased & I'm sure you can email Benny Hinn's ministries for copies of the archived messages that I've quoted.

I don’t know. If a person says there are “nine” persons in the Trinity (as one leading evangelist whose initials are BH once claimed in the first edition of his book, Welcome, Holy Spirit, then either he is a false teacher or is very bad at math, whether we tell him that to his face or not. You discern what is spoken as truth, not just the individual and a nine-member Trinity is not the truth. He sought to “clarify” himself in October 1990 on his TV program by saying, See, God the Father is a person, God the Son is a person, God the Holy Spirit is a person. But each one of them is a triune being by himself. If I can shock you, and maybe I should, there's nine of them."

To his credit, though, after receiving a lot of deserved flak, BH backed off his rather creative view of the Trinity saying he was no theologian and he was wrong and the passages were removed from later editions of the book.​

From what I gather so far is that you can still purchase this book (Good Morning Holy Spirit) from Benny Hinn Ministries, but the content will be different from what you're quoting. What other questionable teachings has he removed from other books he's written after he's been told of an error?​

Sojurner, you need to apologize and retract your accusation on this point (if what Jim is saying is true). The other points you brought up will need to be investigated further by you to see if they still reflect Benny Hinn's current theology. You may have to either buy his latest editions of the books you're quoting, or bring the first edition books you currently own to the bookstore and compare them to what's on the shelves today.​

The burden of integrity now rests on you.​

​

 

[lismore]

We are saved by grace- not works, nor are we saved by perfect theology. A relationship with Jesus christ is what it's all about. Whether Benny's motives ae all pure is between him and God. God is using him.

benny Hinns gift is not teaching. But there is a tangible presence of God at his meetings where many people receive Jesus as Lord and saviour and many people are healed.

 

[JTM3]

benny Hinns gift is not teaching. But there is a tangible presence of God at his meetings where many people receive Jesus as Lord and saviour and many people are healed.

And that's the morale of the story...if you're anointing isn't teaching, don't teach

 

[lismore]

And that's the morale of the story...if you're anointing isn't teaching, don't teach

Yes I agree. benny Hinn makes mistakes when teaching, but there is a tangible anointing at his meetings. His key area is the praise and worship. He lets that flow in a way you dont often see: a lot of churches unfortunately have their set songs then sit down. A pre-programmed sing song. At BH's meeting there is praise and worship until the glory of God fills the place in a tangible presence. When that happens people are saved and healed- its by the anointing of the Holy SPirit that the yoke is broken!

 

[lismore]

We are saved by grace- not works, nor are we saved by perfect theology. A relationship with Jesus christ is what it's all about. Whether Benny's motives ae all pure is between him and God. God is using him.

It seems to be that people who have attended BH meetings and have experienced God's power there will defend BH, those who havent attended BH's meetings will judge something they have not experienced. But yes God is even moving through his TV programmes. my cousin Paul was saved last Spring through watching 'THis is Your Day' when an Indian Chief was on talking to BH.

And like just about every Christian, me included, BH will quite often talk jibberish.

 

[JimB]

Yes I agree. benny Hinn makes mistakes when teaching, but there is a tangible anointing at his meetings. His key area is the praise and worship. He lets that flow in a way you dont often see: a lot of churches unfortunately have their set songs then sit down. A pre-programmed sing song. At BH's meeting there is praise and worship until the glory of God fills the place in a tangible presence. When that happens people are saved and healed- its by the anointing of the Holy SPirit that the yoke is broken!

Would someone please define this word “anointing” as it is being used here (with scriptural support, of course).

Isn’t every believer anointed with the Holy Spirit? Where do we get the idea that there is an anointing for healing, teaching, preaching, etc.

Here are all 18 references to the word “anoint” in the NT (KJV) - HERE.

~Jim

 

[lismore]

Would someone please define this word “anointing” as it is being used here (with scriptural support, of course).

I was meaning something like this:

2 Chron 7:2 The priests could not enter the temple of the LORD because the glory of the LORD filled it. 3 When all the Israelites saw the fire coming down and the glory of the LORD above the temple, they knelt on the pavement with their faces to the ground, and they worshiped and gave thanks to the LORD, saying,
"He is good;
his love endures forever."

I didnt mean there is an anointing for teaching, I mean the glory of the Lord comes in some BH crusades like on that ancient day.

 

[JTM3]

Yes I agree. benny Hinn makes mistakes when teaching, but there is a tangible anointing at his meetings. His key area is the praise and worship. He lets that flow in a way you dont often see: a lot of churches unfortunately have their set songs then sit down. A pre-programmed sing song. At BH's meeting there is praise and worship until the glory of God fills the place in a tangible presence. When that happens people are saved and healed- its by the anointing of the Holy SPirit that the yoke is broken!

Amen!

It seems to be that people who have attended BH meetings and have experienced God's power there will defend BH, those who havent attended BH's meetings will judge something they have not experienced. But yes God is even moving through his TV programmes. my cousin Paul was saved last Spring through watching 'THis is Your Day' when an Indian Chief was on talking to BH.

And like just about every Christian, me included, BH will quite often talk jibberish.

I was meaning something like this:

2 Chron 7:2 The priests could not enter the temple of the LORD because the glory of the LORD filled it. 3 When all the Israelites saw the fire coming down and the glory of the LORD above the temple, they knelt on the pavement with their faces to the ground, and they worshiped and gave thanks to the LORD, saying,
"He is good;
his love endures forever."

I didnt mean there is an anointing for teaching, I mean the glory of the Lord comes in some BH crusades like on that ancient day.

Sure where all anointed, but aren't there "anointing" for our specific assignments?

 

[lismore]

Amen!

Sure where all anointed, but aren't there "anointing" for our specific assignments?

Yes I would agree. But my point is that the glory of God comes down in BHs crusades. This is something that you cannot fake and makes those who criticise BH without going to one of his meetings look foolish.

 

[JimB]

Amen!







Sure where all anointed, but aren't there "anointing" for our specific assignments?

Nope. Only in the Old Testament, and the “anointing” was generally a ceremonial anointing with oil by a prophet or someone in authority signifying that the person or thing was set aside for special use by God.

Today we are anointed, not with oil, but by the Spirit because we are, as the last verse of the Bible (Amplified Version) says, "The grace (blessing and favor) of the Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah) be with all the saints (God's holy people, those set apart for God, to be, as it were, exclusively His). Amen (so let it be)!" Rev. 22.21.

The anointing of the Spirit on every believer signifies that we are God’s exclusive property set aside for His own exclusive use.

The NT does not teach that there are “special” anointings on individuals or places or events. That would be more of an OT concept. The anointing does not come and go, appear and disappear, it “abides” on us according to 1 John 2.27.

Sure, there are times when the presence of God is more intense than at others, but it is simply a misuse of terms to call this the anointing. Call it what you like, but the anointing is more of a “seal” of the Holy Spirit than an empowerment.

~Jim

 

[treblebass]

I have to say, I'm not sure what to think of Benny Hinn...perhaps I have a biased opinion. I remember when I was younger, my mom would take our family, and perhaps some of our family "friends"(i use the term very lightly) to the BH crusade and we would be there for 4-7 hours listening to him preach. In Atlanta, his crusades filled the Philips Arena where the Atlanta Hawks play(the team doesn't get much fan support...). I remember sitting there listing to Alvin Slaughter, BH, and the whole worship team sing and worship for the longest times. I didn't understand Christianity just yet, but I knew that I liked the music. Praise and worship was definitely the most exciting part of his crusades. I guess it was because his sermons were exceedingly long...perhaps I'd have a different opinion if I went to one today...

 

[angels23]

Pastor Benny Puts in alot For God, not for you and me, so we'd better quiet up if we have nothing better to say. I'm in ministry and believe me i could have walked out many times, It's not like owning a company which u can close anytime, While some preachers may do it for all the wrong reasons, I'm never quick to judge, Let those who are biased stay thatway if they wish, and if One doesn't believe in Healing, They'll die becoz of their lack of faith in God, I trust God, Not Pastor Benny. Jelous people should just be quiet, it's better. I WILL NEVER STOP BELIEVING IN MIRACLES, As a matter of fact, am believing to be an instrument myself, I BELIEVE IT, BECAUSE MY GOD IS BIGGER THAN DEATH, SATAN, SICKNESS AND ALL EVIL.
I'm defiant because the light has come and people still love the darkness, How Tragic

 

[treblebass]

Pastor Benny Puts in alot For God, not for you and me, so we'd better quiet up if we have nothing better to say. I'm in ministry and believe me i could have walked out many times, It's not like owning a company which u can close anytime, While some preachers may do it for all the wrong reasons, I'm never quick to judge, Let those who are biased stay thatway if they wish, and if One doesn't believe in Healing, They'll die becoz of their lack of faith in God, I trust God, Not Pastor Benny. Jelous people should just be quiet, it's better. I WILL NEVER STOP BELIEVING IN MIRACLES, As a matter of fact, am believing to be an instrument myself, I BELIEVE IT, BECAUSE MY GOD IS BIGGER THAN DEATH, SATAN, SICKNESS AND ALL EVIL.
I'm defiant because the light has come and people still love the darkness, How Tragic

umm....what are you talking about? i was simply remembering what my point of view of crusades were at that juncture in my life...you make it seem as if I said he was false...which, if you read closely, you would see I never did. don't put words in my mouth. have a blessed day.