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NatsumiLam

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wow i read it because i dont have the realplayer...

wow... umm something to really think about when i see him again.

Thanks so much for this info!!!

Wow.. the last line was just not right at all...... placing a curse on people because they go against your ministry..... thats harsh and not right at all!!!!1

~Natsumi Lam~
 
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Also, many prophecies must be prayed into fulfillment by the church. If the church doesn't care enough to pray or thinks things will come to pass by being dropped on them from heaven, they are sadly mistaken.


*laughs* So you're saying that people prayed for the Jews to get carted off to slavery in 570 BC?

No offence, but don't be silly.

He made a specific prophet with a date.

Plus, why would someone pray for people to die!

That's just lunatic.
 
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2 Cor 13:1

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]"This will be the third time I am coming to you. "By the mouth of two or three witnesses every word shall be established."

Before something large should be believed this should follow and not of the same ministry. AKA Not Benny and His Second in command.

Say Benny and 2 other ministries not associated or who dont listen to his show. Then bring it yourself to God. Dont always depend on hear

~Natsumi laM~
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The Lord led me to post a few verses here in reply..

Brought these to mind as I read through these comments..

Matthew 7:16
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?


John 8:7
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.


We must be careful when we throw stones at someone.. We all have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God..

If Benny Hinn is a false prophet.. then by his fruits we will know him.. and we must be careful not to throw stones at him or any other.. we must first check our own conscience before God... lest we are ourselves are in error..

Even David... did not lift his hand against Saul who at many opportunities tried to take his life... Saul was not following after God... yet he was anointed to be King by the word of the very Lord Himself.. This is what David said..

1 Samuel 24 :6 ((You can read more of the story in the same chapter and surrounding chapters))
6 He said to his men, "The LORD forbid that I should do such a thing to my master, the LORD's anointed, or lift my hand against him; for he is the anointed of the LORD."

Don't go to anything but the Word of God as your final wittness.. If Benny Hinn has strayed from his anointing.. it is Gods place to bring him down... not ours.. even if we disagree.. we must let the Lord fight against evil.... not us.. it is not our place to lift our hands.. voices or anything.. against the Lord's annointed..

I believe Benny Hinn is anointed of the Lord and the healings and numbers coming to salvation are fruits of his ministry.. and even if I am wrong.. The Lord will deal with him... I would rather fear the Lord then any man!!

God is the final authority on all things.. not mankind..
 
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You know its an interesting point people make...

No we don't need to go to men to get healings, but the irony is, how many in the body of Christ, REALLY REALLY BELIEVE that God will heal people through them?
The number of people is increasing but it is still limited because there is still so much unbelief and doubt.

None of us are perfect, and we may not always agree with methods, we have to be so careful on how we judge.

Gosh Jesus spat on peoples eyes and tongues. Some of the old revivalists when they did healings punched people in the stomach. Todd Bentley has done similar.
I think we all need to be careful on how it is done, because if you read what these people right, a lot of the time they ask God "are you sure you want me to punch so and so" ya know? It's not how we as humans would do it, but Gods ways are not our ways!

If something is not of God, then who is it of? The devil. The occult counterfeits things yes, but how does the enemy get an idea on how to do things as a counterfeit? because they were originally something he saw happen in the Kingdom!

Healing is for each and every one of us for sure, and no we don't need to go to such men all the time, but for some that is where they will receive their healing. For others your toilet, your bathtub, your pastor, your elders, your mother, your father, your daughter, even your 3 yr old could pray for you. Ya know?
We are all called to go heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons.... It doesn't say "pray for those things to happen" it just says "do it!"

Anyways since this was a thread on Benny Hinn, LOL.. I guess I will stop talking!
 
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But even Jesus/Yahushua said that in the end times there will be false prophets who do mighty miracles - and we know that Benny Hinn is a false prophet because all the prophecies he says that are from "the lord" and with a date haven't come true.

In the Bible, that gives him the title of a false prophet.

Whilst I agree with you that Yahuweh will deal with him, it doesn't help when Christians fall for a false prophets lies and actually end up encouraging him, when all christians should ignore him and let him and his false ministry fail.
 
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Whether Benny Hinn truly moves in the Spirit of God or not is a matter between him and His Maker.

REGARDLESS, I do believe some are healed at his events - but not because of his or anyone else's healing ministry there - but rather because it is God's Sovereign Will to heal or not to heal.

God knows the hearts and circumstances of EVERY person that attends a Benny Hinn service, just as He knows our's at all times. And so, if He wants to heal someone at a Benny Hinn service, HE WILL DO IT, regardless of "who" is ministering.

(And, if He wants to heal someone while they are outside praying alone in a grassy field ... HE WILL DO THAT ALSO! PRAISE THE LORD!)

Almighty God does not need a man or woman thru which to accomplish His healings ... but I think sometimes makes them available to us, to make it easier for us to receive His healing.

In all things, God is Sovereign.

Praise the Lord!
 
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Would that we were all that "off our rockers." We'd have to build church after church after church to hold the harvest of souls! God bless, prosper and protect Benny.

semperfi_psalm121 said:
Hmmm <scratches head> had no idea it would go this far, but some great info has been put on the table for me to believe that Hinn is, probably still a christian, but definately off his rocker.
 
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I have to agree ChowdersMom!!

Makes me think of one who lived in the wilderness, dressed in camel skin... Cannot judge by appearances.. have to go to the heart.. and fruit produced..

Matthew 3:3-5


3This is he who was spoken of through the prophet Isaiah:
"A voice of one calling in the desert,
'Prepare the way for the Lord,
make straight paths for him.' "[a] 4John's clothes were made of camel's hair, and he had a leather belt around his waist. His food was locusts and wild honey. 5People went out to him from Jerusalem and all Judea and the whole region of the Jordan.
 
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To me, a healing experience should be a solemn, joyful and worshipful event that takes place in the life of the believer. I left his service feeling I had left a circus show. It concerns me that as time goes on, people feel that they need more and more theatrics to draw folks in when in essence, we need more solid elements within the context of the ministry.

When I left his service, I felt I had just witnessed a circus. I'm not doubting that people there were brought to Christ and perhaps some were healed but there were things about it that sent chills up and down my spine and brought out the red flags in my spirit. My hope is that he does draw folks to Christ and that people are healed. My other hope is that he tones down the circus atmosphere and goes back to the basics.
 
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Thank You, Lord, for the multiplied miracles of salvation, healing and deliverance You, and You alone, have worked through Brother Benny. May it continue to increase and prosper.

Comfort those who have been disappointed at healing services and gently and lovingly guide them to the place in their spirits where they are finally able to believe Your Word and receive for themselves.

In Jesus' Name, Amen.
 
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Dude if he only shared that sentiment. Again probably still a christian, lets just say i think he's a weirdo.
 
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Chowders mom-Wait I figured it out, you were one of the people saved, healed, and laid out on the floor because he threw his coat at you, yes or no? I really don't want to sound sarcastic, but are you a follower of Christ or Hinny boy? He is a man just like me he puts on his clothes just like me. Again sorry if I sound rude, but dang........
 
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Sadly, I've not been able to attend one of his meetings. I hope to some day. The Holy Spirit inside me witnesses to my spirit about the anointing of Benny and the mighty works the Lord is doing in him and through him. That's all there is to it. I worship no man, only the Lord (Father, Son and Holy Spirit).

 
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Reading thread made me angry. I will probably sound a bit incoherent b/c of it, but I still feel like writting this.

You all sound like a bunch of legalists; pharisees. Before accusing someone else to be a false prophet, how about looking at your own fruit first? Where is your holiness? How much do you pray? How many do you lead into the kingdom of God? I'd dare to say that many of you watch more TV than pray and seek the Lord. How about you get some of that wisdom that David had? He dared not touch or even ridicule or accuse Saul, God's annointed. He dared not because he feared what would happen to him if he did.

I would go as far as to say that some of the people who blindly accused Benny Hinn in this thread need to repent. I have seen those websites where you get that information off of. Those people on those website accuse almost every person who actually does something for their Lord and King. I tell you the truth, judgement day won't be good for them.
 
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