Believers need to understand the Truth

[BCsenior]

God's Promise, is that they will find the truth, and the truth will set them free.

IMO, Jesus is mostly referring to the fact that
true believers have been set FREE from being slaves of sin.
They are now FREE to NOT sin.
They are now FREE and no longer in bondage to Satan.
This is because they are now new creations in Christ (2 Cor 5:17).

However, as Paul warns in Romans 6, BACs are FREE to continue sinning.
If they continue in habitual sin, the result is eternal death.

 

[Pepper77]

Yes, I guess this is the key to understanding most people on Christian forums (in general).
They desperately want to ...
-- believe in easy-grace, hyper-grace, easy-believism, etc.
-- avoid any accountability or responsibility
-- reject God's call on their lives to co-operate with the Holy Spirit
-- live their lives the way they want, not the way God insists they live
etc.

If you are referring to me, this is a total mischaracterization and false judgement of anything I said. But that's ok. But I would add I don’t think you can have too much Grace, so if that’s what you mean by hyper grace that’s great!

 

[Pepper77]

There is no restriction for the vast majority of unbelievers to not visit and join.
So they join too.

I think its great if they are seeking truth. But I really don't see that, what I have seen, and I am not referring to anyone on this thread, but have seen mocking of our faith that is seen in the public discourse and social media in general.

 

[~Zao~]

Many (most?) posters, and most readers/visitors (who never post), reject Scripture.
Often, they admit this.
Other times, their posts or their words or their lives show this , clearly.

Random speculation aside ... of course

 

[BCsenior]

Random speculation aside ... of course

IMO, observation overrides speculation.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Correction ...
I've read so many people on Christian forums
talk about the John 10:29 promise ...
without considering the John 10:27 conditions of:
us hearing Jesus, Jesus knowing us, and us following Jesus.

I think believers understand this. Unbelievers do not because they are not his Sheep and do not hear God's Word or follow him.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I think its great if they are seeking truth. But I really don't see that

Does Scripture anywhere say that most of the world will seek the truth,
or that most of the world("the rest of mankind after one third is killed") will refuse to repent of worshiping demons ?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

IMO, observation overrides speculation.

Yes.

Random speculation aside ... of course

... of course....

 

[Pepper77]

Does Scripture anywhere say that most of the world will seek the truth,
or that most of the world("the rest of mankind after one third is killed") will refuse to repent of worshiping demons ?

No, it doesn't say most of the world will seek the truth. And it does say in Revelation that those left after the plagues do not repent. Man's heart is very hard.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

No, it doesn't say most of the world will seek the truth. And it does say in Revelation that those left after the plagues do not repent. Man's heart is very hard.

Yes, in and with wisdom far far far above ours, the Creator was and is verifying that most of the world is lost, and remains lost......

The few who turn to Jesus are saved, as many as will come to Him He does not cast out.... but most refuse to turn to Him, and they keep on persecuting everyone who loves the truth.

 

[BCsenior]

The few who turn to Jesus are saved ...

Are you aware that there are about 25 NT verses, which in total really
seem to say that man (on his own) is unable to believe in Jesus?

Thus, IMO, God elects those whom He chooses to give the required faith.
Then, those who "believe" in Jesus have been enabled to do so.

This is one of the spiritual Truths that are "somewhat hidden"
because of their unpopularity (and are potentially harmful to some).

Some of the deeper Truths especially need to be revealed by the Holy Spirit.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

"Who-so-ever will....."

"Choose TODAY who you will serve....."

"No one who (willingly) comes to Me (Jesus) (to be healed) will I turn away...."

 

[BCsenior]

"Who-so-ever will....."
"Choose TODAY who you will serve....."
"No one who (willingly) comes to Me (Jesus) (to be healed) will I turn away...."

I explained ... IMO, those who have been enabled, then are able to believe!
E.G. "Who-so-ever (have been enabled) will believe"