I'm not claiming to have defeated anything.You got there by totally ignoring common Christian doctrine then claim to have defeated it...<headshake...>
No that's not right.No it would not be ethical and thus we know it never happened. You are punished ONLY for the sins against HIM that YOU chose to by your free will though maybe feeling they were the right thing to do at the time.
Since the Satanic destroyed their chance at an everlasting life by putting their faith in YHWH being a liar and a false god...I guess not. But it is what we have.Do you think faith is a reliable path to truth?
If so, how do you explain the billions of people who believe other things than you by faith?
Yes yes.Since the Satanic destroyed their chance at an everlastin glife by putting their faith in YHWH being a liar and a false god...I guess not. But it is what we have.
The billions of other-believers are the many who miss the narrow gate who chose to put their faith in YHWH being a liar and a false god with no power over their lives and whose righteousness was corrupt.
The answer is I don’t know until there is convincing evidence.What if you have NO PROOF but only the word of 3 men that have asked you to believe in something outside of your perceptual truth...
We can use our perceptions to see one moon and reject the two moon theory. But in a pre-physical existence with no physical properties, how do you choose to accept or reject one of the persons with you when they say "I am your creator GOD!"?
That is the crux of my Christian theology...we can only choose to believe in, accepting or rejecting, the result we HOPE it will be in our best interest with the most happiness forever.
You have not thought through how you know what is true. You are having too much fun playing games.Lol
Then why were you trying so hard to convince me?
EXACTLY!The answer is I don’t know until there is convincing evidence.
then why should I not put my faith in Allah?EXACTLY!
Yet the ones HE chose to be HIS Bride in heaven were those who said "I have no convincing evidence but I sure hope you are telling the truth over anything that every other contender for the job has given that I will choose you and your system, though maybe not perfectly in every aspect."
Choosing with no convincing evidence is called faith / trust and (wouldn't you know it?) we are saved by an unproven faith, NOT by accepting PROOF! What you trust in is diametrically opposite what is asked and given by Christians...
The idea that GOD's patience with a sinful elect runs out and they can end in hell is absurd. No one who can be save is not saved...or...everyone who can be saved will be saved!!If I die of Covid next week before God has found time in his schedule to give me a new disposition which would suddenly have made everything convincing to me (despite finding the evidence decidedly underwhelming for decades), then what?
Faith is not trust. Trust is gained by knowledge, experience, and observation. Faith is, as you just said, believing something to be true with no convincing evidence. Christianity relies greatly on anecdotal evidence, and I consider that to be part of the "no convincing evidence" you mentioned.EXACTLY!
Yet the ones HE chose to be HIS Bride in heaven were those who said "I have no convincing evidence but I sure hope you are telling the truth over anything that every other contender for the job has given that I will choose you and your system, though maybe not perfectly in every aspect."
Choosing with no convincing evidence is called faith / trust and (wouldn't you know it?) we are saved by an unproven faith, NOT by accepting PROOF! What you trust in is diametrically opposite what is asked and given by Christians...
What a brutal and capricious theology.With just what they chose before the creation of the world, a life without GOD.
Exactly.then why should I not put my faith in Allah?
You said that you can decide to believe ANYTHING on a whim
You have not thought through how you know what is true. You are having too much fun playing games.
A freethinker might say we believe in God on a whim, and if so, I would disagree that is preposterous.
Now, show me where I said what you claimed.
Also, what exactly is the point of the OP?
OK So honestly then (and bearing in mind your previous two posts)No games, just honest answers.
I'm a freethinker and the entire point of this discussion is that I am saying the we DON'T form our beliefs on a whim.
Our beliefs are NOT a matter of choice but rather are the results of processes in our brains which we don't actually control. This is the current consensus within both psychology and neuroscience.
OK So honestly then (and bearing in mind your previous two posts)
Can you or can you NOT choose your beliefs on a whim?
And I disagree, I think what you claim is preposterous, an oddball, and created conclusion that makes no sense.
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