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I don't know that there is an answer, but I am tired of asking for help and walking away with more issues than I started with.

When my husband first died, I remember telling people how tired I was and how I needed a break. Instead of getting offers for the kids to go visit people (including their grandparents), I'd get instructions on time management.

Now at 3 years, our church had a big purity event for the teens. I went to the parent talk. After sitting through the "how tos" for a Christian two parent family, I asked if they had any suggestions for any materials that might address how a mother could talk about things that probably should have come from a dad. I made it clear that I don't have any Godly men in our lives at the moment that were close enough to send my son too...and I really don't think that I should...he is my son. I was told to come talk to a gentleman afterwards for some suggestions...but ended up walking out of the room after being told that I needed to join a "small group". I cried for a couple hours because I really don't know how I can fit one more thing in my over crowded schedule, and I feel like I was failing once again at meeting everyone else's expectations.

I was told I had to take care of myself too...but I can't find a single verse that says that I should sacrifice the good in my children's lives in order to increase my friendship circle...and something in their lives would have to go to make room for one more thing. And I'm not sure where I'd find time to prepare for a small group study without cheating someone else in my life. I only have them kids for a few more years and then I'll have more than enough time on my hands to attend small groups.

I promised, so I looked. I could pick a group that meets on Saturday night but is about 40 minutes away...and probably not the support I'd need if I was in trouble. OR I could pick one on Wednesday night but that means I can't go to Wednesday service or Bible studies (and my 13 year old can't volunteer with the younger kids like she has been begging to do). OR I could go to the one on Mondays which means I miss my monthly widows group, my daughter would have to quit Kids Community Service Club and my son is riding his bike a mile each way in the dark going to and from a Boy Scout event that he adores. My other choices means I quit the Cub Scout pack that desperately needs me, my daughter quits her figure skating lesson (NOT an option because this is about dealing with her grief), or my son quits Boy Scouts (also not an option because this is his male time).

Am I missing something? Am I really screwed up because I can't fit "small group" in my life at this season in my life? And yes, I cried because I shouldn't be the one having "father/son" talks but why must I always DO something in order to be helped by the church. I don't want anyone to raise my kids...just looking for advice for good materials that don't say that "dad and son should take a retreat weekend" to talk about this stuff...even if I wanted to do a retreat of sorts, I'd have no idea of what to do with his younger sister.

I hate it but I find that the churches really don't know what to do with us younger widow/ders. If we cry after a year, we must not be following God. If we aren't "happy in Christ", we must be doing something wrong. Why is it not enough that my kids are doing well and growing in their relationship with God and I'm surviving and pursuing a way to support us? Why do I have to wear my false "happy" mask even among Christians?
 

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Blackribbon- I understand much of what you are saying. My schedule has little room for anything else, neither does my finances. Find comfort in knowing that we are doing the best we can as a single parent. Don't let others, especially those who haven't walked in your path, tell you what you are doing is right or wrong. Follow your faith, follow the path that He has laid before us. We can't forget that He is with us and will help us press on! I'm praying for you, please know you are in my thought and prayers.
 
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I feel better today. My schedule "as is" gives me peace even as busy as it is...so I am letting the new "obligation" go. No, I don't have a huge support system in place...but God will continue to provide if I follow Him.

As for the mask, there is no room in most churchs for "sad" people. Our society has this strange obsession with "fixing" broken people instead of recognizing that like all "seasons", there is a place for mourning. At 3 years, my time was up a long time ago. Even in the Christian widows group I belong to, I see the masks we all hide behind...trying to convince ourselves that we are okay even on days when we know we are not. Sometimes the mask is just how we try to fool ourselves that we are "okay". Mostly I am okay now...but there are times when I still am not. Just the other day I felt the "kick in the gut" as I was driving down the road when it dawned on me that "he really isn't ever coming back". You would think that at 3 years, my mind wouldn't be so surprised at this thought anymore ... and yet, it knocked the breath out of me.

Eccl 3:4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;....someday I suspect it will be time to dance again...but I am not there yet. I'm also not "stuck" in my grief...but it is my grief and my journey...and Billy is worth missing for a while longer.
 
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I feel better today. My schedule "as is" gives me peace even as busy as it is...so I am letting the new "obligation" go. No, I don't have a huge support system in place...but God will continue to provide if I follow Him.

As for the mask, there is no room in most churchs for "sad" people. Our society has this strange obsession with "fixing" broken people instead of recognizing that like all "seasons", there is a place for mourning. At 3 years, my time was up a long time ago. Even in the Christian widows group I belong to, I see the masks we all hide behind...trying to convince ourselves that we are okay even on days when we know we are not. Sometimes the mask is just how we try to fool ourselves that we are "okay". Mostly I am okay now...but there are times when I still am not. Just the other day I felt the "kick in the gut" as I was driving down the road when it dawned on me that "he really isn't ever coming back". You would think that at 3 years, my mind wouldn't be so surprised at this thought anymore ... and yet, it knocked the breath out of me.

Eccl 3:4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;....someday I suspect it will be time to dance again...but I am not there yet. I'm also not "stuck" in my grief...but it is my grief and my journey...and Billy is worth missing for a while longer.

Well said, Blackribbon.

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:confused:This is not on subject but I cannot reply to a post I received in this forum.If someone could direct me where to go to get help.I would appreciate it.

thanks and Blessings

p.s.There is alot I can't figure in here.Not to mention my brain needs help right now.
 
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It is the same gripe or similar that I have too. Churches want us to show up and be joyous. They don't want to be inconvenienced too much, and they are ill prepared to deal with it.

I just passed 7 years without my husband and even though it is thoroughly real to me, it doesn't seem like 7 years and sometimes I still cry. So what!

You are correct that this is YOUR journey. I am always reminded about Job's friends. They gave him horrible and wrong advice from the get go. Thank God he didn't listen to them!
I was attending a small church when my husband passed. It was my Pastor's first death of a member. Although they tried to be supportive, in the area of being there for my boys they failed. I had no family mentors or friends that were males that were good models. I expected someone in the church to step up to the plate but it didn't happen. Now my oldest doesn't even know if he believes and my youngest will only go to church with me twice a month. I'm not a proponent of dragging someone to church unwillingly. At my new church, it is huge. But still, no one connected with my boys. God still has a plan for their lives and He is perfectly capable of bringing it to pass, so I have forgiven the church.

As far as getting into a small group, that's what they emphasize at my church also. There was a time I was just like you and my priority was my kids and too bad if they didn't like it. THAT is my main ministry. If I did get involved in something else with the church it would only be because of pressure and I don't do well with pressure.

Be strong and know that the God you serve is able to accomplish His will in your life no matter what choices you do or don't make. Your kids are your priority first and foremost. GOD understands and GOD knows where you are at.

Unfortunately the church is no different than the rest of the world. It's full of broken people and they just don't know how to act. Keep being yourself and doing what you know God wants YOU to do. Keep being REAL. I wish I knew more people like you. :hug::hug::hug:
 
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Rememberme, everytime you post to a thread, like you did to this one this morning, you will receive an email saying that someone has replied to the thread. That does not necessarily mean that they are replying directly to what you posted. Just that they are making a comment in the same thread.

If you do not want to receive an email notification you need to go to the quick links tab on the blue bar under your user name and go to edit options. Half way down there is a default thread subscription mode where you can change your options.
 
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RememberMe...your posts are so appropriate for this thread...I didn't know what a "forum" was before my husband died...now they are my main social circle. Learning my way around the internet (beyond google) was part of my new life and is a very REAL part of my life now.

Keep asking and trying ... that is how we learn. ((hugs))
 
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"confused" is a mood choice? I may have to go look again. Maybe there is one for me.

I need a "rode hard and put up wet" one...do you think it is there?
(I've had mom duties from 9:30 am to 9:30 pm ... 'pull in the driveway and honk for switch of children' type of day...and I'm still not completely done but the car is parked for the night.) Honey, I didn't sign up to do this alone!
 
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Yeah and then you read in the bible where it says God doesn't give you more than you can handle and for me, for years I've thought.....WHY does God think I can handle so much? Cuz I can't! :wave::hug::hug::hug:

Does it really say that in any fashion? I looked once and couldn't find the reference. I am thinking that maybe it is one of those sayings like "God helps those who help themselves" which is definitely NOT Biblical.
 
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1 Corinthians 10:13 No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it.

God will not allow any difficulty to come into our lives that we are not capable of bearing.

So, anything that comes our way, anything that tempts us, any tragedy that befalls us—we are capable of overcoming it and achieving spiritual victory. That does not mean it will always be easy. Quite the contrary—the fact that we may need a “way of escape” indicates that God sometimes allows difficult trials to come into our lives. We may not believe that we can overcome it, we may doubt our own strength to prevail, and we may even fail in the temptation. That does not mean, though, that we are not capable of overcoming that particular temptation. Whether it is a temptation to sin or a temptation to doubt God, God promises that we will be able to overcome it.

 
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Can I respectfully say that I don't believe that verse is saying that God won't give us anything that we are not strong enough to handle...I think it means He won't allow us to be tempted with anything that we are not strong enough to resist...(kind of puts a kink in the "devil made me do it" defense).

I just had a widow friend die two weeks ago. She left behind 2 daughters with no parents now. Their dad died a little more than 2 years ago. I don't think that they are strong enough as a 12 year old and 15 year old to bear this. The older one is not strong. However, their Heavenly Father is strong enough to both carry them and provide them with people who can help support them.

I think a lot of our burdens are too heavy for us...luckily, God never expects us to carry them alone. It isn't our strength that God looks for but rather our ability to turn to Him in our weakness. I used to wonder why God thought I was so strong...but I think He was really asking me to trust Him enough to let go.
 
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God never intended for us to do this.In the natural we can't do this.It takes a supernatural help.JESUS.I believe it was not in His perfect plan that people suffer so.Did you ever want to say to Eve thank you!Then I think if it wasn't them it would have been someone else.

p.s. my computer is acting weird.I went in the computer forum.They ask me what browser I had.LOL whats a browser?sheeez. Nice to know they have all these places on this site.I am not seeing the recent posts in here.had to go via e-mail.My e-mail is doing strange things too.
 
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Well we can agree to disagree on that. :wave:In my experience, when I have felt overburdened, and have too much to bear, I can be easily tempted to do things that normally I would not. Like maybe drink too much, or smoke or whatever because I just cannot handle it. But when I am dependant on Christ and focused correctly on Him when I feel overburdened I can "see" that He is my light and that I can get thru this.

Also the Bible says this :
"Come to me, all you who labor and are burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am meek and humble of heart; and you will find rest for your selves. For my yoke is easy, and my burden light." Matthew 11:28-30

So you are correct when you say we cannot do it alone. But it doesn't say anywhere that we will have a trouble free life. Just that as a Christian we can lean on and trust Christ to help us thru any circumstance.
 
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