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There's a certain superpower that demonstrates that exceptions can occur.10 years ago I was working for an international development charity whilst at a conference I was sat at a table for Lunch, usual crap sat with strangers:
One person asked a priest, "So what do we do to keep our communities Christian"
Priests states "Don't educate them too much."
Problem for that priest is the only way to get those countries out of the cycle of poverty is to educate them. I know it, I'd guess you know it, that priest knew it and more importantly the people of those countries know it.
And we all know more education means more knowledge, more rational thinking and every country which has this has moved away from religion.
No, in Modern Times some have made Science an idol. And have fallen by Speculation and Faith in Evolution.Who needs God when you have the wonders of Evolution,
I recall when I first learned about Evolution, 10 years old and a 1 hour class changed everything for me, not just explaining how we got here but the concept that you don't need a complex thing to make a complex thing. There is a system that removes the need for a designer, and if we can find one such system do more systems exist.
Below Archaeopteryx. Funny story about a guy who owned one the first Archaeopteryx fossil, Writing "If evolution is true then you'd see a link creature" I like to think that the Fossil was on his desk whilst he wrote this!
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If you think the change from Dinosaurs to Birds is mind blowing then look looking at how Whales evolved from Dog like mammals.
Like it or not Evolution killed God, it may take 100s of years to finish but it was a deathblow never the less. Not because of evolution itself but because there exists a system were simple things can go on to create complex things. And the Theists hypothesis centres around, not proof, but a need for a God to exist, to create complex things - no more need, no more God.
I don't fully agree with Rivga's points, but this is a completely unsatisfactory response.No, in Modern Times some have made Science an idol. And have fallen by Speculation and Faith in Evolution.
It would have been best to let the Lord lead, bring things before Him to seek conclusions on.
Many now are fallen away from Him who works within, and guides into Truth.
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No, in Modern Times some have made Science an idol. And have fallen by Speculation and Faith in Evolution.
It would have been best to let the Lord lead, bring things before Him to seek conclusions on.
Many now are fallen away from Him who works within, and guides into Truth.
Behold the terrible lizard!
It's really not much of a point. "Some birds are very small and cute and so it's hard to imagine them being related to dinosaurs."Worth bumping, in light of a conversation currently in progress:
You know what... every single car.. has a steering wheel.. but.. are different manufacturers...It's really not much of a point. "Some birds are very small and cute and so it's hard to imagine them being related to dinosaurs."
Birds are structured in a similar way to theropod dinosaurs and they have atavistic genes for non bird traits like maws and teeth.
There are clear transitional species like Archaeopteryx which is additional evidence for the relationship with modern birds and extinct dinosaurs.
As an example from another branch of life... a chiwawa is effectively the same species as a timber wolf.
The patterns of similarities being referred to is an observation, not "proof." The theory of evolution provides us with an explanation of that observation. "Design" does not.You know what... every single car.. has a steering wheel.. but.. are different manufacturers...
Seems like when something works well ... it gets used in many models and makes....
Just like the similarities in all of God's creation...
No proof of evolution.. just proof of a designer.
The $64.00 term for this, JB, is: ontological reduction.You know what... every single car.. has a steering wheel.. but.. are different manufacturers...
Seems like when something works well ... it gets used in many models and makes....
Just like the similarities in all of God's creation...
No proof of evolution.. just proof of a designer.
Only on paper.The theory of evolution provides us with an explanation of that observation.
Actually it does.Speedwell said:"Design" does not.
Why is it a nightmare? In fact, methodological reductionism is at the heart of all of the sciences, not just the one's you don't like.The $64.00 term for this, JB, is: ontological reduction.
A term that is truly an evolutionist's nightmare.
And they WILL NOT discuss it.
Can't say as I blame them either.
Evolution is a theory......The patterns of similarities being referred to is an observation, not "proof." The theory of evolution provides us with an explanation of that observation. "Design" does not.
Yes, the theory of evolution is a theory which is intended to explain the fact of evolution. How does "design" explain that fact?Evolution is a theory......
Sure.Yes. Can you show us one?
Only on paper.Yes, the theory of evolution is a theory which is intended to explain the fact of evolution.
Ontological ... (not your "methodological") ... reduction.Speedwell said:How does "design" explain that fact?
A classic example of reductionism. But why should evolution be afraid of reductionism and not want to talk about it? The theory of evolution is reductionist as well, with the added advantage that it explains how God assembled His snap-on parts, something "design" has utterly failed to do.Sure.
With, of course, the exception of the synthetic elements, God created these atoms as "snap-on parts" to come together in different ways to do different things.
On a much larger level, He used combinations of atoms as "snap-on parts" for different reasons.
Take a dinosaur, snap on a coccyx, snap on a tail, and voila: T. rex.
Take a man, snap on a coccyx, and it serves some purpose that apparently myopic science can't find.
So they just connect-the-dots and call it evolution.
Because, according to evolution, the snap-on parts were daisy-chained before Adam showed up.A classic example of reductionism. But why should evolution be afraid of reductionism and not want to talk about it?
Correct, "according to Genesis." Which explains completely what this discussion forum is about--not about the existence of God or His authorship of our being, but about how to read an ancient Hebrew religious text.Because, according to evolution, the snap-on parts were daisy-chained before Adam showed up.
But according to Genesis 1, the snap-on parts were not daisy-chained: they came into existence at a moment's notice at God's command.
This thread is about your "terrible lizard."Correct, "according to Genesis." Which explains completely what this discussion forum is about--not about the existence of God or His authorship of our being, but about how to read an ancient Hebrew religious text.
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