Baptists, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Methodists help me

[SuperBunny]

Baptists...once saved always saved (with exception of independent freewill ones); pre-trib rapture; cessation of gifts without any tolerance of any other view; men are seen as dominant in marriage

Presbyterian...same as above only they are more low-key

Lutheran...once saved not always saved, post-trib..revelation not literal though, gifts have ceased or not?; men are seen as more equal to women in marriage

Methodist...once saved not always saved; post-trib?; gifts have ceased but free to believe in them if don't cause disruption in church; men and women are seen as equal in marriage

Would you say this is accurate of each denomination in a few areas? Why or why not? What is your experience?

 

[frumanchu]

Would you say this is accurate of each denomination in a few areas? Why or why not? What is your experience?

Nope. The Orthodox Presbyterian eschatological position I believe is partial-preterist amillennial, not pre-mil.

 

[SuperBunny]

What is that, Fru?

 

[frumanchu]

Essentially, the view that many of the prophesies concerning the "end of the age" and the like were fulfilled in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD. It is not a full preterist position because not all prophesy has been fulfilled (hence the term "partial").

With respect to amillennialism, the "millennial reign of Christ" is viewed as figurative and not a literal 1000 years, and is occuring at the present time.

That is obviously a very concise explanation and is by no means exhaustive. It's not a very popular view in today's Left Behind culture. I'm sure there are others here who could give a better explanation of and support for the partial-preterist amill view than I.

 

[SuperBunny]

Okay, yes, I have heard of this, this is I think what the Lutherans believe as well and I think the Church of Christ too to varying degrees. Thank you for giving me a general answer at least.

 

[christian-only]

SuperBunny, are you like church shopping?

 

[Diaconeo]

Not all baptists are premil-pretrib, and they don't all believe in the cessation doctrine. Surprisingly many, if not most, baptists (at least SBC) are either post- or amillenial in thier doctrine. Additionally, some are very charismatic embracing the Sign Gift of Tongues, and the imperfect Gifts of Prophesy and Knowledge. More accurrately said though, is that generally baptists are partial cessationists, believing only that Tongues, Prophesy and Knowledge are done away with. I personally only hold to Tongues being done away with, because we do prophesy and know in part untill that which is perfect comes. However, those are the two exceptions to Paul's statement of cessation in 1 Cor. 13.

IN Christ,

Matthew

 

[msortwell]

Baptists...once saved always saved (with exception of independent freewill ones); pre-trib rapture; cessation of gifts without any tolerance of any other view; men are seen as dominant in marriage

Presbyterian...same as above only they are more low-key

Lutheran...once saved not always saved, post-trib..revelation not literal though, gifts have ceased or not?; men are seen as more equal to women in marriage

Methodist...once saved not always saved; post-trib?; gifts have ceased but free to believe in them if don't cause disruption in church; men and women are seen as equal in marriage

Would you say this is accurate of each denomination in a few areas? Why or why not? What is your experience?

Yours is a very ambitious goal to be able to cleanly describe key doctrines of each of the above.

Baptists -

I was an independent fundamental Baptist preacher: Pretrib, Premil, Dispensationalist, Largely Arminian (get saved by free will but kept safe by God's sovereignty). Baptism by immersion only. Usually democratic rule. Occasionally elder ruled. My experience has been that this is by far the dominant profile for Baptist and Bible Churches.

I am now a Reformed Baptist: Fully Calvinistic (TULIP), Partial-Preterist Historical Premil, Post Trib (I believe most Reformed Baptists are Amill), Baptism by immersion only. Elder rule.

Presbyterians (liberal) -

Some liberal groups accept Arminian or Calvinistic Theology (barely tolerating the Calvinists). Many of the liberal groups fall into whatever is on Christian Radio. Generally, the Dispensational Arminian(ish) view. Led by a presbytery which is essentially a gathering of Pastors (male or female). Church generally led by democratic rule.

Presbyterians (Conservative) -

(Orthodox & Reformed) Fully Reformed (Calvinists), Also led by presbytery (all male), May be either post or amill (with your occasional historical premillenialist), Baptism is considered to be a sign of the covenant (akin to circumcision) and is performed on newly converted (unbaptized) adults and the children (generally infants) of believers.

Free Presbyterians - Gather together a bunch of Reformed Baptists and Conservative Presbyterians that have learned to play nicely together (baptism and eschatology not to be divisive issues).

Many denominations are all over the map doctrinally.

When seeking for the right church you can certainly narrow the field by their titles. However, there are often significant differences that will not be known unless you interview members of the leadership and/or attend for a little while. That's been my experience anyway.

Mike