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Identification
Like the Orthodox Church, Baptists distinguish between tithing and giving an "offering." The word "tithe" actually means the "tenth part of agricultural produce or personal income." Because of this, Baptists believe that members should leave 10 percent of their income for tithing to their church. This tithe is expected and not optional. An offering would be anything above that you give to the Baptist church that exceeds the 10 percent that makes up your tithe.
Function
As with other churches, tithes pay for the basic expenses of a Baptist church. Heat and electricity are two examples. Depending on the size of the Baptist church, the heating and/or electric bill could be thousands of dollars a month. Tithes also benefit special programs, such as international missionaries and local charities. Many Baptists churches will use tithes to purchase food and other supplies for the less fortunate members of the community. This, of course, depends on how many members the church has and how much money is given to that church.
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Tithing occurs for most Baptists during the Sunday service. Ushers will walk down the aisle holding baskets while church members place money or envelopes (filled with money or a check) into the basket. In larger churches, these baskets can actually be passed through the pews so that members can easily place their tithe into the basket. Some Baptist churches will ask members to simply withhold 10 percent of their earning throughout the month. Members of the congregation will then give their tithe to the church either at the beginning or end of the month.
Benefits
A common belief held by many Baptists is that they will be rewarded both financially and spiritually by tithing. This comes from Luke 6:38, which states "Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." Tithing fulfills a commandment from God and thus is necessary for one to enter the Kingdom of Heaven (see Matthew 6:19-21 in Resources).
Expert Insight
Many people worry and even feel guilty about their tithing practices. If you find yourself in this situation, call your minister and tell him about your concerns. You should feel comfortable enough to speak about your finances with your minister. This is especially important if you are worried about losing 10 percent of your weekly (or monthly) income. Spend some time in prayer if you don't know how much to tithe and work with your minister on ways to give more or less of your money to the church.
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Tithing - What the Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination teaches about tithing and why it is wrong.
Before I get started I must premise this section by telling you that this is one of the most dangerous and destructive false teaching of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination. Teaching tithing is absolutely unbiblical and nothing more than mind control manipulation. There has been a lot of good information on the truth about tithing made available online and I will provide some links at the bottom of this page to web sites that I have read and agree with. The purpose of this page is not to go into a lot of detail about tithing. I would simply like to point out the false teachings of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination in this area and touch on some of the important points about tithing that show why it is wrong.
When I recently asked an Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination minister about tithing this was his reply was: "When men will not tithe, (1) God's work on earth is hindered, (2) the non-tither is robbing God, (3) God will withhold His blessing, even chastening the non-tither. However, God has categorically promised to bless those who will so honor Him. Even other people would perceive God's blessing upon them as they returned to tithing."
False Teaching #1: Tithes vs. Offerings
The basis of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination teachings for tithe is a distinction between "Tithes" and "Offerings". The Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination teaches that there is a difference between the two. Basically Tithes is 10% of your monetary Gross (before taxes) income and Offerings is anything over and above the tithe. They further teach that a person is commanded to tithe to the "Local" or "Home" church (the church with which they consider their permanent place of worship). They teach that if you wish to give over and above the tithe you can do so by giving more to the local church or to another ministry. They further teach that if you give your tithe to another ministry then it doesn't count as tithe but offerings and you are still "robbing God" if you don't give your tithe to your home church. The Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination used such verses as Deuteronomy 12:6,11; 2 Chronicles 31:12; Nehemiah 10:37; Nehemiah 12:44; Nehemiah 13:5; and Malachi 3:8 for the basis of their teachings. The offering isn't required, however, the tithe is required.
False Teaching #2: The "Devourer" - Curses for Not Tithing
The Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination uses Malachi 3:10-11 to teach that if you don't tithe, the "Devourer" (Satan) will come and destroy your property as a punishment so that you will incur more financial burden. They teach that if you tithe God will protect your property and your finances through Divine Intervention and not allow bad things to happen that take up your resources such as cars breaking down and leaky roofs.
Here they spell out specifically that God promised that He would "rebuke the devourer." The word so translated as (lka awkal) literally means "the eater." The reference was to hoards of voracious insects which had destroyed their crops. Further, God promised that their vine would not prematurely "cast her fruit before the time in the field." The word translated as cast her fruit (lkv shawlol) has the sense of a "miscarriage." What had happened was that God had sent bad weather which caused the grape crop to be pre-maturely blown on the ground. It may have been by high winds, hail, or a combination of them. God had gotten His tithe. Israel, however, had missed God's blessing and had in fact paid the penalty for not tithing.
False Teaching #3: Blessings for those that Tithe
The Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination wrongly teaches that tithing opens the door for God's blessings and when we don't tithe we are robbing from God and we will be cursed by God withholding His blessings from us. They sight Proverbs 3:9-10 and Malachi 3:7-11 for this belief.
They teach that the degree of giving was based upon how "God hath prospered" which they will say clearly implied proportional giving. In other words, we ought to give in direct proportion as God has blessed us. And of course the universal proportion throughout the Scripture is ten percent as the tithe. They think that Paul clearly is not referring to the tithe regarding the offering for the impoverished Judaean churches, the principle lies just beneath the surface here.
They will bring you back to the Israelites and tell you that as Israel began to tithe (even upon their greatly diminished crops) God promised that He would "open the windows of heaven." They say the reference is likely to sorely needed rain. (The phrase "the windows of heaven" is found three times in the Bible. Notably in the time of Noah it clearly referred to God sending rain. See Genesis 7:11, 8:2. It also is alluded to in II Kings 7:2,19 in the time of Elisha and the siege of Jerusalem. There it also likely was a reference to needed rain.) God prompted them to "prove me now herewith." In other words, "Put me to the test, and see if I will not bless you in return." God promised that as they began to once again tithe, He would pour out blessings for them such they would not be able to receive it all.
False Teaching #4: If you don't tithe you are branded a Thief
If you don't pay tithes the Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination considers you a thief. The Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination teaches that it is the members' responsibility to support the church financially. They use Mal. 3:8-10 to support this and they call the withholder of the tithes and offerings a thief. They even extend this fallacy to the New Testament claiming that I Corinthians 9:1-14, especially verse 14, obligates believers to support the church in precisely the same way that the Tabernacle was supported - by tithes and offerings.
False Teaching #5: Tithe Must come from the Gross Income
This is a huge deal for the Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination. They teach that if you don't tithe from your gross income then your tithe doesn't count because in II Proverbs 3:9-10 the Lord tells us to "Honor the Lord with Firstfruits" which they interpret to mean that one should set aside the tithe FIRST and that it should come out of your gross income, before all other bills and expenses. They teach that if you leave the tithe until last, God usually misses out.
False Teaching #6: Storehouse Tithing
The Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination teaches that tithing is to be "storehouse" tithing. Storehouse tithing means the giving of the tithes into God's appointed place. In Old Testament days, the storehouse was the Jewish temple.
In the Old Testament, The storehouse mentioned was the treasury or warehouse adjacent to the Temple. The economy of the day was largely agriculture and trade was commonly done by barter. It was the practice of the Israelites to bring their tithe to the Temple in the form of the actual commodity (grain, figs, wine, etc.) These then were stored in a warehouse-type of building called the storehouse which was a part of the treasury of the Temple. (Interestingly, Paul used the equivalent Greek word translated as store in I Corinthians 16:2, referring to the local church.) As they did not tithe, the work of the Temple, specifically in the provision of the Levites food, was damaged.
In New Testament days, the storehouse is the treasury of one's local or home church. They use Acts 4:35, 37 5:2 to justify these teachings. According to Acts 4:35,37 and Acts 5:2, the Christians brought their tithes and offerings to the Apostles' feet. They also point to both Malachi 3 and Paul's mention of the "storehouse". According to 1 Corinthians 16:1,2 the Christians at Corinth were to collect their tithes & offerings and bring them to their local church at Corinth, or 'lay by him in store' on the first day of the Week, Sunday. They believe that I Corinthians 16:3 indicates not only that the storehouse is the church treasury, but that the church body collectively has the responsibility to designate where God's money is to be spent. The collective belief among the Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination is that in this day and age the STOREHOUSE for your tithe is your LOCAL CHURCH. The Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination does not believe that it is not God's plan for you to give your tithe wherever you decide.
If you ask them WHY ARE WE TO PLACE OUR TITHE INTO OUR CHURCH? they will respond with what simply amounts to a guilt trip. They will tell you that your tithes and offerings are for the support, upkeep, and ministry of your Church. Tithes should never be designated by the giver. They are to be left for use as the Church body decides. As mentioned previously they teach that offerings over and above the tithe can go to other deserving ministries, but God says your tithe should go to your local church. They teach that if everyone gave their tithe to worthy ministries outside the local church, the local church would die and they take 1 Corinthians 9:13-14 out of context for this belief.
The Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination is very good at telling the word translations from the Septuagint. They believe that the word translated as in store (yhsaurizw thesaurizo) is the same word used in the Septuagint for "storehouse" in Malachi 3:10. The greater point is that the local church of the New Testament has become the "storehouse" for the giving by God's people even as the Temple was during the time of the Law.
False Teaching #7: Tithes must be given on the First day of the Week - Sunday
The Independent Fundamental Baptist Denomination will present to you I Corinthians 16:2 where Paul directs how giving ought to be done. "Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come." They will say that this is a clear indication to the day of the week on which the gentile church assembled. It no longer was the Sabbath on Saturday. Because of our Lord's resurrection on the first day, the early church began to assemble thereon. They will also point to Acts 20:7.
They will convince you by stating that some claim Paul was admonishing them to personally and privately set aside funds to this end each Sunday until Paul arrived. However, that neither makes sense nor meshes with the context. But they argue that if that were the case, why not lay funds aside on payday which probably was Friday or some other day? The fact that Paul directed this be done on the Lord's day, when the church assembled, lends direct credence to the position of giving in the church service (i.e., putting it in the offering plate or whatever device they used). Furthermore they will tell you that Paul made clear that he did not want to be involved with taking such an offering when he arrived. It therefore follows that each Sunday, they were to take a special offering to be duly set aside toward the day of Paul's arrival.
This is baptist teaching... not mine. Do not say any different in this baptist section.
This isthe situation. As far the tithe concept is getting supported, everything will be OK. As soon I provide solid scripture against the tithe; this threath will be closed. Now you will see.Did you even read this before you posted it? It is not the Independent Fundamental Baptist church saying tithing is wrong, it is some guy saying this Independent Fundamental Baptist church is wrong. He gives no scripture to back what he is saying, but I agree with him we are not obligated to tithe, it is a choice. A little advise Zeleste... No Christian cares about his opinion on what God wants, your opinion on what God wants or my opinion on what God wants. Christians want scripture. If you do not give scripture no one is going to listen to you. You want to prove your point and knock that ball out of the park? Prove it... open your bible and find the scripture that says to tithe is to sin. Otherwise your wasting your breath... or your typing fingers in this case.
This isthe situation. As far the tithe concept is getting supported, everything will be OK. As soon I provide solid scripture against the tithe; this threath will be closed. Now you will see.
Scriptural support:
I can provide scripture that the only tithe in the Bible is that tithe of the Law.
I can show scriptures where it is clear that christians are not aloud to practice the Law (including tithe)
I can prove that the biblical tithe is not the 10% of the income.
I can demostrate that in the NT is not any tithe teaching.
I can prove that the christians of the NT did never ever tithe. No ne local church or individual did ever tithe in the NT.
That will be just the starting.
Then I can prove the great damage to spiritual life wich is tithe.
That it is desobeying to the Holy Spirit
That contradict Christ teachins.
The question is: will I be alouded to do so? or I will be stoped by this and that CF rule?
This isthe situation. As far the tithe concept is getting supported, everything will be OK. As soon I provide solid scripture against the tithe; this threath will be closed. Now you will see.
Scriptural support:
I can provide scripture that the only tithe in the Bible is that tithe of the Law.
I can show scriptures where it is clear that christians are not aloud to practice the Law (including tithe)
I can prove that the biblical tithe is not the 10% of the income.
I can demostrate that in the NT is not any tithe teaching.
I can prove that the christians of the NT did never ever tithe. No ne local church or individual did ever tithe in the NT.
That will be just the starting.
Then I can prove the great damage to spiritual life wich is tithe.
That it is desobeying to the Holy Spirit
That contradict Christ teachins.
The question is: will I be alouded to do so? or I will be stoped by this and that CF rule?
If you have scripture showing tithing is sinful ect then type away, Nothing in CF rules say Baptists have to tithe or don't have to so your good to go
I can provide scripture that the only tithe in the Bible is that tithe of the Law.
I can provide scripture that the only tithe in the Bible is that tithe of the Law.
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I can show scriptures where it is clear that christians are not aloud to practice the Law (including tithe)
How does a spouse tithe when the other spouse don't want to tithe while inside the marriage the money are shared together? In other words the spouse don't want to see the other spouse giving the money away.
When it comes to OT scripture that talks about tithing it mostly (if not always) speaks of a 10th or 10%, you said it mentions nothing about 10%.
Non of both have to tithe. If one spouse have the light that tithe is not a real christian doctrine, has to explain it to the other spouse. If the case is that both believe that they have to tithe (despite they dont have to), not tithing became sin. It became sin against the own belives (even if the believes are wrong).
Never the less you have still not shown me where I have not been directed by the Holy Spirit to give what I can, whether it be money, items or my own time... you have not shown me it is sinful to do so. You mentioned a few posts back that it is ok to give for the sake of simply giving but it is not ok to give driven by love and kindness from the Holy Spirit... I would still like to see the scripture that says we should give nothing unless we are giving as the non believers might give.
can you reword that?
the Holy pirit is guiden who?
The Holy Spirit is telling you very clearly (Act 15) not to practice, teach or impose anything from the Law. We know that the Holy Spirit ispiret Luke while writing Acts of the Apostels; but in chapter 15 we found the Holy Spirit talking personally, not inspiring but directly talking. The only time in the entire Bible that the Holy Spirit is talking directly is Act 15:28-29. The Holy Spirit is prohibiting you and all christians to practice anything from the Law. That includes the prohibition of tithing.
dont you tell me that the Holy Spirit is guideing you.
Baptis give to the church because they love it, as somebody else love animals or orphans. No conection with the bible or to God.
If you tithe because you read it in the Bible; then, than kind of tithe is absolutelly prohibited to christians.
a third scenario:
suppose I am wrong and actually there is an obligation to tithe.
but I am convinced that tithing is agaist Jesus teachings and the Holy Spirit commands
even if I am wrong and nor Jesus nor the Holy Spirit has anything against tithe
even in that extreme, if I tithe convinced that tithing is a sin; then I am in actual sin if a tithe
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