Baptist= non-protestant?

[bleechers]

It's too bad they have decided to capitulate to the use of that insulting term.

Have the Cardinals and bishops in those diocese "capitulated"? If so, do you realize that you have no right to question them?



On second thought, perhaps you ought to take your questioning of the judgment of members of the Magisterium over to OBOB... I get in trouble here when I quote the Catholic catechism to Catholics.

 

[BBAS 64]

Good Day, All

Though for some the title of Roman Catholic seems unfair or an insult there are many places it is used on church buildings and in writing of the Roman Catholic Church.

Title Roman catholic





"Indeed, 'from the incarnate Word's descent to us, all Christian churches everywhere have held and hold the great Church that is here [at Rome] to be their only basis and foundation since, according to the Savior's promise, the gates of hell have never prevailed against her.'" (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 834, http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/834.htm )

"I acknowledge the Holy, Catholic, Apostolic and Roman Church, the mother and mistress of all the Churches." (First Vatican Council, 2:12, http://www.ewtn.com/library/COUNCILS/V1.HTM )

Notice that, in the following quote, the universal church is referred to as "Roman":

"They adopted an attitude of opposition and, prodigal of their good name and enemies to their own honour, they strove to their utmost with pestilential daring to rend the unity of the holy Roman and universal church and the seamless robe of Christ', and with serpent-like bites to lacerate the womb of the pious and holy mother herself." (Council of Florence, session 9, http://www.ewtn.com/library/COUNCILS/FLORENCE.HTM )

"Some say they are not bound by the doctrine, explained in Our Encyclical Letter of a few years ago, and based on the Sources of Revelation, which teaches that the Mystical Body of Christ and the Roman Catholic Church are one and the same thing. Some reduce to a meaningless formula the necessity of belonging to the True Church in order to gain eternal salvation." (Pope Pius XII, Humani Generis, 27, http://www.newadvent.org/docs/pi12hg.htm )



Peace to u,

Bill

 

[Filia Mariae]

Good Day, All

Though for some the title of Roman Catholic seems unfair or an insult there are many places it is used on church buildings and in writing of the Roman Catholic Church.

Did you bother to read my post?

 

[Filia Mariae]

Have the Cardinals and bishops in those diocese "capitulated"? If so, do you realize that you have no right to question them?



On second thought, perhaps you ought to take your questioning of the judgment of members of the Magisterium over to OBOB... I get in trouble here when I quote the Catholic catechism to Catholics.

I'm sorry you harbor such deep hatred for the Church. May the peace of Christ be with you.

 

[Filia Mariae]

Have the Cardinals and bishops in those diocese "capitulated"? If so, do you realize that you have no right to question them?



On second thought, perhaps you ought to take your questioning of the judgment of members of the Magisterium over to OBOB... I get in trouble here when I quote the Catholic catechism to Catholics.

I'm sorry you harbor such deep hatred of the Church. May the peace of Christ be with you.

 

[@@Paul@@]

I'm sorry you harbor such deep hatred for the Church. May the peace of Christ be with you.

Here lies the problem,,, IT is not "the Church".

 

[@@Paul@@]

On second thought, perhaps you ought to take your questioning of the judgment of members of the Magisterium over to OBOB... I get in trouble here when I quote the Catholic catechism to Catholics.

........... like if i say this is really disturbing!!

"I acknowledge the Holy, Catholic, Apostolic and Roman Church, the mother and mistress of all the Churches." (First Vatican Council, 2:12, http://www.ewtn.com/library/COUNCILS/V1.HTM )

Notice that, in the following quote, the universal church is referred to as "Roman":

......I'll just be told, that's not what it "really" means.

Isn't a "mistress" someone your NOT supposed to be in love with? One verse in Rev. comes to mind...

 

[bleechers]

I'm sorry you harbor such deep hatred of the Church. May the peace of Christ be with you

A. I don't see any hate in my post... referring back to the official doctrines of your own church is somehow "hate"? Could you be specific, where is my "hate" in that post?

B. The church in question tells me that I am "anathema" and that "hense there is no salvation for [me]" yet I am the one who "hates"? Why should I listen to a church that says what yours says in the Council of Trent or in Vatican II or in Unam Sanctam?

I shouldn't be disciplined for merely stating what those documents say.

Did you bother to read my post?

Yes, you stated that the use of the term "Roman" Catholic was not acceptable. We have just pointed to Cardinals and a Pope who have used the term (or at least an official translation from the Vatican). In Catholic theology, the Magisterium trumps you. My question is why don't you chastise your own Magisterium before coming here... which is a problem because you're forbidden to do so by your church...

Now, don't turn me in for just quoting to you from your own catechism. It's not my rule, it's your church's rules. Take it up with them or on OBOB... don't trouble us here with your dislike for your own church's semantics.

How is any of this either "hateful" or misleading?

 

[BBAS 64]

Did you bother to read my post?

Good Day, Carly

Yes I did, I posted thoses quotes to show although You may find the title to be insulting to You, many would say that is your feeling and not shared by all who operate with in the same community that you do.

Peace to u,

Bil

 

[Crazy Liz]

Carly, I posted a follow-up question in OBOB. Could you respond there?

Thanks!

 

[RED that's ME]

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