Baptist and Mormonism

[Frankie]

I have read several posts in the UO section of CF where Mormons have had very negetive things to say about Baptist. In fact, it would seem that Baptist are their least favorite denomination out there. What I was wondering from you all is this.....

Do your churches use sermon time to preach against Mormonism (this is what many lds claim). My church does not. Church time is purely for the worship of God and study of His Word.

Have you had dealings with LDS and if so, how did it go?

Do you have any LDS friends or family members and if so, have you discussed the Bible truths with them and how do they respond to it?

God Bless,
Frankie

 

[theseed]

I've been in bible studies about cults, including Mormons--but never heard it from the pulpit. I'd say that many are prepared to defend thier faith in those areas.

Note: I believe that Christianity was a cult in the time of the NT.

 

[Diane_Windsor]

Frankie,

Growing up I don't think I ever heard any sermons on any other religion or cult with perhaps one exception-a Mormon one lol. I remember visiting my home state of Iowa when I was 12, going to my parent's old Baptist church, and some Baptist missionary family being there. The pastor probably preached something about the LDS being a cult seeing that these missionaries to the Mormons were special guests, but I don't have a great memory. I remember them giving us some salt (being that we are the salt of the earth hehehe). These missionaries were on their way to Salt Lake and to convert Mormons.

I ran into a nice Mormon woman in college who kept on insisting that they were Christian-my response to her everytime was a puzzled look, and nodding my head "no".

Becky

 

[CrystalBrooke]

i've never in all my life heard a sermon specificly pointed towards another belief, whats a LDS?

 

[theseed]

i've never in all my life heard a sermon specificly pointed towards another belief, whats a LDS?

Church of Latter Day Saints

 

[Sword-In-Hand]

The pastor of the church I attend has preached from the pulpit on some of the things cults like Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses believe in, only so we would know how to deal with them when trying to witness to them. It's preached that we don't follow their beliefs, but we don't bash people, only try to lead them to the truth.

 

[CrystalBrooke]

Church of Latter Day Saints

thank you

 

[jenptcfan]

I've never heard anyone preach a sermon specifically against the LDS, but then Mormonism isn't hugely popular in my part of the country.

 

[GreenEyedLady]

I have had a knock at the door before.
I answered it and told them I was saved by the Blood of Jesus Christ.
They asked me how and then proceeded to ask me if they could show me from the book of mormon about salvation. I told them, Only one book is God's and that is the Bible!
One of them looked at me and said "Have you asked your heavenly Father about the book of Mormon?" I said, No, i don't have to, His word is good enough for me. They left saying that they hoped i would pray to the heavenly father about the book of mormon.
I have heard mormonism, JW's, and other religions mentioned in sermons. The whole purpose of mentioning them is that they preach works salvation, and the whole point is that its not the CHURCH that saves you, or any work you do, its JESUS who saves you.

 

[FreeinChrist]

One of the more recent annual meetings of the Southern Baptists was in Salt Lake City, Utah. The SBC made a concerted effort to evangelize in that predominantly LDS city. They sure didn't like it.

A number of folks in my church came out of Mormonism and while the minister does not target the LDS church from the pulpit, in Bible Studies like Sunday School, it is discussed. There is a Mormon temple in town, and a Mormon church in most of the communities - and they desire to evangelize us very much. We discuss that church for the purpose of being aware of their teachings and how it conflicts with the Bible. Also, those who leave it are often deeply criticized by their families, and often subjected to intense efforts to bring the person back. I have been surprized, though, by the reports from those that left the LDS church that when there is a critical family illness, they are asked to pray for that person, even to lead the family in prayer. The Holy Spirit is using them as a witness!

 

[Frankie]

Thanks for your comments everyone. You know, I see nothing wrong with a church having special classes to talk about and warn it's members of false churches. In fact, I think it is a good thing. I don't want to hear it preached from the pulpit, just because I want my focus during worship service to be on Jesus but as far as classes and sunday school discusion on false churches, I think it is a good idea.


One thing I find very interesting is that LDS always say you should "pray" about the truth of the Book of Mormon. One doesn't have to pray about it to know it is not a book from God. It goes against the Bible and that is all the "proof" one needs.

Frankie

 

[computerjunkie]

One thing I find very interesting is that LDS always say you should "pray" about the truth of the Book of Mormon. One doesn't have to pray about it to know it is not a book from God. It goes against the Bible and that is all the "proof" one needs.

AMEN, Frankie! I have a basic problem with the title of the BOM..."Another Testament of Jesus Christ". We don't NEED "another testament of Jesus Christ" because we have the ONE testament of Jesus Christ...the Bible. And, like you, I don't need to pray about it.

Personally, I don't know that I've noticed a disagreement with Baptists in particular as much as Christians in general. As far as I can tell, their entire belief system is based on what Joseph Smith, a false prophet, said as a result of his alleged vision from God where God allegedly told him all other religions were an abomination.

In the U.T. forum, Romans5:1 said somewhere that things get a little messy when they try to add all this other stuff. I couldn't agree more!

1 John 5:13: "I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life."

What else could we POSSIBLY need?

CJ

 

[~WildRoseCowgirl~]

I have never heard preaching against any other religeon, cult, or denomination. I have heard preaching on how to reach these people, what their beliefs are and how to respond to their answers to questions that we may ask. I have heard of people who tell the Mormons and Jw's and others that they are sinning by going to that church, they aren't going to heaven because they go to that church ect. But usually I totally disregard those people because they, to me, are acting very upity, and not very Christlike at all. Christ wants us to love everyone and to reach them for Him. We aren't going to reach hardly anyone if we tell them that they are evil sinners, when mormons and some of those beliefs are the most "christian" like people that are out there. What I mean by "christian like" is doing good deeds, generally loving everyone, having good strong families, ect.

 

[Frankie]

I have never heard preaching against any other religeon, cult, or denomination. I have heard preaching on how to reach these people, what their beliefs are and how to respond to their answers to questions that we may ask. I have heard of people who tell the Mormons and Jw's and others that they are sinning by going to that church, they aren't going to heaven because they go to that church ect. But usually I totally disregard those people because they, to me, are acting very upity, and not very Christlike at all. Christ wants us to love everyone and to reach them for Him. We aren't going to reach hardly anyone if we tell them that they are evil sinners, when mormons and some of those beliefs are the most "christian" like people that are out there. What I mean by "christian like" is doing good deeds, generally loving everyone, having good strong families, ect.

I do agree that we should love people but I have to disagree about the "evil sinners" thing. We are all evil sinners, even the Mormons and the only way to be made righteous in the eyes of God is to come to the one true Jesus of the Bible. There is no other way. I thank God daily for the people who, when I was not a Christian, told me that I was an evil sinner in need of a Savior, before that, I thought I was fine just as I was and that I didn't need the Jesus of the Bible. The truth is offensive to those who don't embrase it but that does not mean that we should not continue to speak the truth, we should just try to do it with love.

God Bless,
Frankie

 

[~WildRoseCowgirl~]

yeah, I was going to put that in my post but decided not to!

 

[Frankie]

AMEN, Frankie! I have a basic problem with the title of the BOM..."Another Testament of Jesus Christ". We don't NEED "another testament of Jesus Christ" because we have the ONE testament of Jesus Christ...the Bible. And, like you, I don't need to pray about it.

Personally, I don't know that I've noticed a disagreement with Baptists in particular as much as Christians in general. As far as I can tell, their entire belief system is based on what Joseph Smith, a false prophet, said as a result of his alleged vision from God where God allegedly told him all other religions were an abomination.

In the U.T. forum, Romans5:1 said somewhere that things get a little messy when they try to add all this other stuff. I couldn't agree more!

1 John 5:13: "I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life."

What else could we POSSIBLY need?

CJ

Now, everyone can laugh at me but at one time, I did read their Book of Mormon and I did pray to know if it was true. I was not saved at the time, I did think that I was a Christian but I can look back on it now and see that I was not really a Christian. However, I compared what I read in their BofM with what the Bible taught and could clearly see that it was not the Word of God. The more I prayed about their book, the more the Holy Spirit led me to God and away from the LDS teachings. Now that I know the Bible much, much better, I can clearly see how the LDS teachings go against it. There really is no need for one to pray about the LDS books because anything that contradicts the Word of God, like the lds teachings do, is clearly not of God.

This is one of the reasons I think it is so important for people to study their Bibles. If we are firm in God's Word, we will know the imposters when we see or hear them.

God Bless,
Frankie

 

[JVD]

I used to always invite the young men in and open our Bible together. I never really got anywhere with them but enjoyed trying. They are going two by two for a reason, to keep the other in the faith.

My wife asked me finally to stop bringing them in the house.

They always would say that if you pray and ask "the heavenly father" about the book of mormon you would get a warm feeling in your chest. That would be "the heavenly father" telling you it is true.

One really interesting thing to me is how so many seemingly intelligent people continue to follow the religion. The book of mormon seems to talk about the Americas but nothing in it fits reality.

 

[Wrigley]

I have read several posts in the UO section of CF where Mormons have had very negetive things to say about Baptist. In fact, it would seem that Baptist are their least favorite denomination out there. What I was wondering from you all is this.....

Do your churches use sermon time to preach against Mormonism (this is what many lds claim). My church does not. Church time is purely for the worship of God and study of His Word.

Have you had dealings with LDS and if so, how did it go?

Do you have any LDS friends or family members and if so, have you discussed the Bible truths with them and how do they respond to it?

God Bless,
Frankie

Good question. I'm not sure the pulpit is the place for a sermon that is against mormonism.

But a series of classes would be good though.

 

[Wrigley]

AMEN, Frankie! I have a basic problem with the title of the BOM..."Another Testament of Jesus Christ". We don't NEED "another testament of Jesus Christ" because we have the ONE testament of Jesus Christ...the Bible. And, like you, I don't need to pray about it.

Personally, I don't know that I've noticed a disagreement with Baptists in particular as much as Christians in general. As far as I can tell, their entire belief system is based on what Joseph Smith, a false prophet, said as a result of his alleged vision from God where God allegedly told him all other religions were an abomination.

In the U.T. forum, Romans5:1 said somewhere that things get a little messy when they try to add all this other stuff. I couldn't agree more!

1 John 5:13: "I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life."

What else could we POSSIBLY need?

CJ

Hey cj, how are you?

 

[Diane_Windsor]

They always would say that if you pray and ask "the heavenly father" about the book of mormon you would get a warm feeling in your chest. That would be "the heavenly father" telling you it is true.

I think that is the most ridiculous and invalid method of trying to determine if a holy text is inspired.

1. Feelings change at any given time, so you really can't trust them. One minute I like my brother and the next minute we're fighting !

2. If I prayed to the heavenly father about the Koran and got a warm feeling in my chest does that mean that the Koran is inspired? Mmmmm, perhaps I should ask the next two Mormon missionaries who come knocking at my door about that.

diane