the emphasis is not the you will, but the love me part. If you love then keeping the commandments will happen, not keeping the commandments will show love.
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Everybody claims the Spirit leads them - everybody from Catholics to people in wacky cults.
Who is right?
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sure, but if YOU are letting the Spirit lead you why does what other people say He is doing matter? YOU know what He says to YOU. ??? Your influence as a person without even sharing the gospel in actual words should be enough to evidence who He is in you, shouldn't it? Not to mention, if He speaks through you, your words would be assertive and the right ones, because He's doing it. ?? I fail to see how one could be mistaken who was speaking at that poing.
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truth is, it is ALL just interpretation (all the bazillions of pages of discussion)whether I agree or disagree with you, you offer an interpretation
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Does God tell different believers different and contradicting things? Does he, for example, tell me that Baptism is a Sacrament, and tell you that it is an unnecessary work of man?
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why does it matter what I believe if YOU know what YOU believe is right from Him (and not someone teaching you)?
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guess one could say that
(btw, God is love, so through/in the Holy Spirit is - in my addled mind- the same as saying love ... as there is no love without God)
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...at your service!
Nope...but the enemy sure tells lies. He has done since He lied to Adam and Eve in the Garden...telling them they could be God-like if they only did a certain something (when in reality, they were already like God...created in His image).
So let's see...someone created in God's image...being told they have to do something so that they could be more God-like....now what does that sound like??? Sounds like religion to me.
EDIT: Poof! The Gospel.
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ticker
...at your service!
I guess you could say everybody...but do a different degree.
But really, I'd have to say that there is no actual right and wrong....there's only Jesus, and how undistorted our image of Him is. We don't look to the Spirit of Christ to lead us to "right" or "moral" living (...and which religious denomination has that the best)...we look to His Spirit to simply lead us to miraculous, Christian living (...manifesting the life of Christ).
So who is "right"? I guess I'd say those who more often than not will end up exhibiting the life of Christ in their actions. Interestingly enough though, I seem to find (in my experience anyways) that there are some pretty major common threads in most of these people's view of Christ.
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well, really, that was not the lie, the lie was that they would not die.
they did become more like God, and even He said so Himself.
your point on religion does ring REALLY true though.
they did become more like God, and even He said so Himself.
your point on religion does ring REALLY true though.
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ticker
...at your service!
Hey there Elsan.
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...yep, exactly. God doesn't die.
There's a difference in becoming more like God in a knowledgeable sense and in a spiritual sense. The point was though that they needn't have concerned themselves with knowing things from the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, but to simply keep living in a trusting unison with God (out of a tree of Life).
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...yep, exactly. God doesn't die.
There's a difference in becoming more like God in a knowledgeable sense and in a spiritual sense. The point was though that they needn't have concerned themselves with knowing things from the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, but to simply keep living in a trusting unison with God (out of a tree of Life).
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Nope...but the enemy sure lies. And he has done since He lied to Adam and Eve in the Garden...telling them they could be God-like if they only did a certain something (when in reality, they were already like God...created in His image).
So let's see...someone created in God's image...being told they have to do something so that they could be more Godlike....what does that sound like???
Sounds like religion to me.
EDIT: Poof! The Gospel.
but as the author of Genesis notes, they were created in His image, but does not say they were yet in His likeness (or would they have fallen ?)
so created in His image, towards or to the likeness ... what is in between ?
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likeness-
- The state, quality, or fact of being like; resemblance.
- An imitative appearance; a semblance.
- A pictorial, graphic, or sculptured representation of something; an image
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then please share the references etc. so I can understand your point. (verse and word used please... who knows, maybe you're right -oh... did I say that? lol)
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