Bad Logic

[plindboe]

Well, to be honest, Christianity isn't a religion, it's a relationship.

Did you understand my points? Do you now accept the problem with your previous post (#69)?

Peter

 

[Cabal]

Not really.

I've made the point that I think colleges and universities subtly ingrain anti-religious sentiments into peoples' minds.

Coming back and saying, "No they don't" means you're missing my point --- it's being done subtly.

I don't think they mean to, they just can't help it.

Yeah, and most if not all of us have said words of the effect of "it's never come up." So unless they can infuse anti-religion into us by somehow... not talking about religion, I guess; it's fair to say that you're wrong.

This is the thing AV, neither Christianity nor creationism are so opposed nor so much of a threat to science that they necessitate religion being brought up in a higher education science class - not the mention the fact that it's unrelated.

We just kinda...get on with the science, to be honest.

 

[Hespera]

Cabal..Yeah, and most if not all of us have said words of the effect of "it's never come up." So unless they can infuse anti-religion into us by somehow... not talking about religion, I guess; it's fair to say that you're wrong.

This is the thing AV, neither Christianity nor creationism are so opposed nor so much of a threat to science that they necessitate religion being brought up in a higher education science class - not the mention the fact that it's unrelated.

We just kinda...get on with the science, to be honest. Quote//////////////


hespera sez...

all this is really about the rather, un, touching ideq the theocreos have that they have some sort of actual standing or are of interest beyond a forum for people who just feel like arguing. The theocreos really just are not important! Their 'ideas" have no merit or standing at all.

Why would anti religion, anti crationism be 'infused"? Why not also anti what, rock and rool?. anti quiche-eating, anti comic book, anti kool aid?

We can have geology classes, they just stay on toic and dont concern themselves with what the Bantus think, what the theocreocultists think, or the merits of kool aid, purple or otherwise.

 

[AV1611VET]

We can have geology classes, they just stay on toic and dont concern themselves with what the Bantus think, what the theocreocultists think, or the merits of kool aid, purple or otherwise.

That would be Flavor Aid, Hespera --- Mr Kool Aid didn't go to Jonestown.

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[Split Rock]

Well, to be honest, Christianity isn't a religion, it's a relationship.

You have a funny way of being "honest." Christianity is not a religion, but evolution is. Right?

Not really.

I've made the point that I think colleges and universities subtly ingrain anti-religious sentiments into peoples' minds.

Coming back and saying, "No they don't" means you're missing my point --- it's being done subtly.

I don't think they mean to, they just can't help it.

One more assertion on your part that you cannot provide a scrap of evidence to back up. So its just what you "think," hmm? Based on...? Nothing. Just your desire for it to be so.

 

[Split Rock]

Why would anti religion, anti crationism be 'infused"? Why not also anti what, rock and rool?. anti quiche-eating, anti comic book, anti kool aid?

We can have geology classes, they just stay on toic and dont concern themselves with what the Bantus think, what the theocreocultists think, or the merits of kool aid, purple or otherwise.

That would be Flavor Aid, Hespera --- Mr Kool Aid didn't go to Jonestown.

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Hey, thanks Hespera. From now on, anytime AVET mentions Pluto, The Space Shuttle, or Thalidomide, I will respond with "Kool Aid!"

 

[AV1611VET]

You have a funny way of being "honest."

Now this is tact at its best! ---

 

[AV1611VET]

Hey, thanks Hespera. From now on, anytime AVET mentions Pluto, The Space Shuttle, or Thalidomide, I will respond with "Kool Aid!"

That would be Tang.

 

[Hespera]

av sez... Originally Posted by Split Rock

You have a funny way of being "honest."
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Now this is tact at its best! --- QUOTE///////


h sez... That would be truth at its most incisive

 

[gaara4158]

That would be Tang.

AV, you are the most talented troll I've ever encountered on these boards. Once again your points have been exposed as nothing more than your own little hunches... and you successfully change the subject to juice powders. That's just... phenomenal.

You're still wrong, by the way... you're just really good at making everyone forget it.

 

[Hespera]

ok you say thalidomide, i say spanish inquisition
you say shuttle, i say witch burn

Reminds me of when i was a cheer leader...

I say comets, You say winners

 

[Assyrian]

Well, to be honest, Christianity isn't a religion, it's a relationship.

James 1:27 Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world.

 

[plindboe]

AV, you are the most talented troll I've ever encountered on these boards. Once again your points have been exposed as nothing more than your own little hunches... and you successfully change the subject to juice powders. That's just... phenomenal.

You're still wrong, by the way... you're just really good at making everyone forget it.

No, I haven't forgotten that I explained the problems with his logic (#77) which made him respond with a red herring (#79) and when that didn't throw me off (#81) he chose to ignore me.

At least for once he's beautifully on topic.

Peter

 

[gaara4158]

No, I haven't forgotten that I explained the problems with his logic (#77) which made him respond with a red herring (#79) and when that didn't throw me off (#81) he chose to ignore me.

At least for once he's beautifully on topic.

Peter

I know the tactics... when proven wrong, leave until either the thread dies and it's forgotten, or the subject changes and people forget that they defeated you earlier. Either way you get out of answering the questions.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, I haven't forgotten that I explained the problems with his logic (#77) which made him respond with a red herring (#79) and when that didn't throw me off (#81) he chose to ignore me.

Okay, Plindboe, I'll give in and say something here; but be advised that I almost never answer a post that accuses me of having "my interpretation", as I try so very hard here to get you guys to realize that the Bible is to be interpreted literally, so as to make even those hostile to It admit to what It says, only to have people argue against that.

Then they complain later that something is "your interpretation."

That Catch-22 gets old.

Some of you guys go out of your way to ask questions that you know aren't covered by the Scriptures, daring us to answer, so they (or others) can levy the charge of "your interpretation."

They don't have the backbone to ask something that's clearly covered by the Scriptures.

By way of a good example, some won't care how the water during the Flood got here (that's clearly covered by the Scriptures) --- rather --- they want to know where it went; and Heaven help anyone who even dares venture an educated guess.

In any event, I'll answer this the way you wrote it:

Are you saying that anything that contradicts a religious belief is anti-religious? Think this through for a second.

Since religious beliefs differ on just about anything, this would mean that anything that could possibly be taught would be anti-religious.

It would mean that you're being anti-religious when you claim that the Earth was created six millennia ago, since the hindus believe it came into existance many billions of years ago.

Or are you simply saying that anything that contradicts YOUR specific beliefs is anti-religious?

Peter

I'm saying that anything that contradicts 'my specific beliefs' is religious. Since 'my specific beliefs' rule out other religions on principle, there's only one valid "religion" on the face of the earth: His.

 

[Hespera]

gaara sez....I know the tactics... when proven wrong, leave until either the thread dies and it's forgotten, or the subject changes and people forget that they defeated you earlier. Either way you get out of answering the questions.Quote//////////////////////


H sez...

Has anyone ever, once heard the person in question admit that he was in any way or degree mistaken about ANYTHING, EVER?

show of hands?

Quotes?

Theories about those who can never admit being wrong, and those who continue to discuss things with same?

 

[AV1611VET]

H sez...

Has anyone ever, once heard the person in question admit that he was in any way or degree mistaken about ANYTHING, EVER?

show of hands?

Quotes?

Theories about those who can never admit being wrong, and those who continue to discuss things with same?

Would someone please answer this for her, besides me?

 

[Hespera]

Sure didnt admit you were wrong about the idea that anyone can use cubits to measure a string to an infinite number of decimal places. Closest you came was to say that you now ignore the question and call it a "rant". A change at least; earlier, you called it "harassment". But no simple honest appraisal of the possibility of accurately measuring a string, or building a water tank, to perfection.

yup

 

[gaara4158]

gaara sez....I know the tactics... when proven wrong, leave until either the thread dies and it's forgotten, or the subject changes and people forget that they defeated you earlier. Either way you get out of answering the questions.Quote//////////////////////


H sez...

Has anyone ever, once heard the person in question admit that he was in any way or degree mistaken about ANYTHING, EVER?

show of hands?

Quotes?

Theories about those who can never admit being wrong, and those who continue to discuss things with same?

It's happened a handful of times... usually it's about inconsequential stuff that wasn't crucial to his argument anyway, but this is a rare occurrence. Usually, he employs the tactics I described earlier, then waits for this to happen, at which point the subject has been successfully changed to something he's actually got some authority on. He's an artful dodger to say the least.

 

[Split Rock]

In any event, I'll answer this the way you wrote it:I'm saying that anything that contradicts 'my specific beliefs' is religious. Since 'my specific beliefs' rule out other religions on principle, there's only one valid "religion" on the face of the earth: His.

How many valid "literal interpretations" of scripture are there?