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[messianist]

If what you say is true, you would not have called Scripture nonsense earlier, you should know what is written, and you never have provided any reason Scripturally to think that someone is not opposed to Scripture so far.
That is the main and only point here - and you have no evidence for your view or posts (which are so far contrary to Scripture) so far.....


Instead you ran off in another direction and started and continue to bear false witness...

tch tch.....

I gave an explanation to the person I was actually talking to thank you.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I gave an explanation to the person I was actually talking to thank you.

Then after that you denied Scripture (or opposed it, and continue opposing it) for some reason , apparently.
Most people, the whole world as written oppose Scripture. They oppose Yeshua so they are in error as YOU POSTED YOURSELF
Remember this ?
We are called to Trust, repent and to be holly, if there is anything we are doing that takes our mind away from yashua then we are in error....
Post by: messianist, Jan 3, 2018 in forum: Christian Philosophy & Ethics

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Do they all oppose Scripture ? Or any of them ? (according to Scripture)

There are around 47 thousand denominations but there is only one church.

 

[messianist]

Then after that you denied Scripture (or opposed it, and continue opposing it) for some reason , apparently.
Most people, the whole world as written oppose Scripture. They oppose Yeshua so they are in error as YOU POSTED YOURSELF
Remember this ?
We are called to Trust, repent and to be holly, if there is anything we are doing that takes our mind away from yashua then we are in error....
Post by: messianist, Jan 3, 2018 in forum: Christian Philosophy & Ethics

your changing it to most now, i said you will find that people will do that with scripture you can try and twist what you like your not helping yourself in anyway.

 

[messianist]

Do they all oppose Scripture ? Or any of them ? (according to Scripture)

There is one church and one only
God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

No change, and still no answer from you to the simple question, do you know anyone , can you show anyone , according to Scripture , who does not oppose Scripture ?

The whole world rejects Scripture, as I posted, as written in Scripture,
"most" was used to recognize that "THE REMNANT" does not reject Scripture,
but you should know the remnant is FEW. And the only ones with hope in the world.

You made a false claim earlier, and have not shown why yet after repeated requests,
are you under the roman umbrella religiously ?

Most people, the whole world as written oppose Scripture. They oppose Yeshua so they are in error as YOU POSTED YOURSELF
Remember this ?
We are called to Trust, repent and to be holly, if there is anything we are doing that takes our mind away from yashua then we are in error....
Post by: messianist, Jan 3, 2018 in forum: Christian Philosophy & Ethics

 

[messianist]

No change, and still no answer from you to the simple question, do you know anyone , can you show anyone , according to Scripture , who does not oppose Scripture ?

The whole world rejects Scripture, as I posted, as written in Scripture,
"most" was used to recognize that "THE REMNANT" does not reject Scripture,
but you should know the remnant is FEW. And the only ones with hope in the world.

You made a false claim earlier, and have not shown why yet after repeated requests,
are you under the roman umbrella religiously ?

i have not made a false claim

 

[messianist]

No change, and still no answer from you to the simple question, do you know anyone , can you show anyone , according to Scripture , who does not oppose Scripture ?

The whole world rejects Scripture, as I posted, as written in Scripture,
"most" was used to recognize that "THE REMNANT" does not reject Scripture,
but you should know the remnant is FEW. And the only ones with hope in the world.

You made a false claim earlier, and have not shown why yet after repeated requests,
are you under the roman umbrella religiously ?

The Lord preserves the simple; when I was brought low, he saved me.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

i have not made a false claim

Let's see >>>

you will find that people will do that all over the bible, but that doesn't change what the scripture actually means.

i.e. don't play around with any private interpretation of Scripture,
(especially with any interpretation directly opposes Scripture)

Who’s opposing scripture

Basically, everyone on earth. All society and religions and governments and agencies.

......

Here comes the opposition to Scripture, the false claim >>>>>>>>>>

nonsens

tch tch,
even after you said "people will do that all over the Bible" (see first quote above)

OR do you think false interpretations are not opposed to the Bible ? ??

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

GOOD! THIS IS positive hope and wonderful truth to be confirmed ! Yes, with positive expectations of the results of your answers .......

The Lord preserves the simple; when I was brought low, he saved me.

 

[messianist]

listen its s you that said all not me I said people will that doesn't not include all,

 

[Archivist]

There is only one Church. The fact that there are multiple denominations does not change that. We are not divided on major points. Rather we are divided on more mundane issues--adult vs. infant baptism, immersion vs. sprinkling, female clergy, etc.

I find it interesting that those who say that there should not be denominations seem to think that there should be a single unified church, but they expect that church will believe exactly what they believe on every one of these points.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

listen its s you that said all not me I said people will that doesn't not include all,

Correct, now that is clarified, you understand what I posted is true from Scripture, in line with what you say now and what you said at first, and not nonsense.

 

[joshua 1 9]

There is only one Church.

I like the teachings of Martin Luther that there is the visible and the invisible Church. In Isa 11:2 we read about 7 Spirits that eye can not see & the ear can not hear. John in Rev talks about 7 Spirits before the throne. Yet we know there is only one church and one Holy Spirit. So they say like facets on a diamond they are 7 fold. We are able to receive 7 Gifts of the Spirit. They are: wisdom, understanding, counsel, fortitude, knowledge, piety, and fear of the Lord.

Rev 1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before His throne;

Isa11:2,3 2The Spirit of the LORD will rest on Him— the Spirit of Wisdom and Understanding, the Spirit of Counsel and Strength, the Spirit of Knowledge and the Fear of the LORD. 3 And He will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not Judge by what His Eyes see, and He will not decide by what His Ears hear,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_gifts_of_the_Holy_Spirit

 

[joshua 1 9]

adult vs. infant baptism

One is a confirmation and the other is a baptism. The issue has to do with which is a confirmation and which is a baptism.

 

[Archivist]

One is a confirmation and the other is a baptism. The issue has to do with which is a confirmation and which is a baptism.

I offered that as an example of an issue upon which Christians disagree, not an issue to debate in this thread. Sorry if my post confused you.

 

[chevyontheriver]

I offered that as an example of an issue upon which Christians disagree, not an issue to debate in this thread. Sorry if my post confused you.

Most of this discussion has been debate at the lowest level. Yeah, we disagree. Problem is most of us are jaded enough we don't even see the need to agree.